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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    The officer was being a racist price,that's what.

    Why wasn't it investigated properly. Like you see on TV. People being evacuated and the bomb squad called in
    It was never suspected as a bomb. So it was never investigated as a bomb.
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    (Original post by AverageExcellence)
    He wasn't arrested for suspected bomb making/possession. It was for the possession of a hoax bomb; which causes terror and fear, (which a closed ticking suitcase full of wires could easily be conceived as). A black, white, Mexican, oriental or otherwise would have been arrested for it in a climate where the terror threat to the US is as high as it can be.

    He didn't tell anyone in that class that he had a home-made clock on him, so in the context it was more than warranted for a teacher to at least raise an eyebrow.

    He was taken down the station, briefly questioned, then released.. problem solved. Seriously what do you think the teacher and cops should have done? went up and politely asked someone they thought could potentially be hoaxing if it was REALLY a bomb? thats like saying it would be racist to call the police on the boston bombers because they were muslim (pre-act). Nobody harmed, kid inconvenienced and now gets to meet the president.. bet if you asked him he'd do it all over again in a heartbeat.
    Again why wasn't the school evacuated. If it was a suspected bomb they should have followed correct procedures instead of doing their own thing
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    (Original post by DiddyDec)
    It was never suspected as a bomb. So it was never investigated as a bomb.
    Great excuse. They just wanted a chance to shame up the poor boy because he happened to be Muslim. It backfired on them
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Great excuse. They just wanted a chance to shame up the poor boy because he happened to be Muslim. It backfired on them
    Of course they, how could I be so naive to think that the police were just trying to do their jobs. They are obviously just there to get Muslims in trouble for no reason at all.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Again why wasn't the school evacuated. If it was a suspected bomb they should have followed correct procedures instead of doing their own thing
    That has been explained several times, how do you know what 'correct procedures' are there and how do you know they weren't followed. Answer the question, do you think that muslims should not be reported purely because they are muslim if people have reasonable suspicions that there might be cause for concern for the security of others?

    if you say yes then you concede it wasn't racist in nature in any way.
    if you say no (which no doubt you will) then clearly you think that political correctness should take precedence over wider security which is wrong.

    no doubt you wouldn't have qualms with a Black man or Mexican being scrutinised in the same situation, but im not surprised considering you told me 'immigrants own the country now deal with it' you're hardly the beacon of rationality or liberal thinking.
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    (Original post by AverageExcellence)
    That has been explained several times, how do you know what 'correct procedures' are there and how do you know they weren't followed. Answer the question, do you think that muslims should not be reported purely because they are muslim if people have reasonable suspicions that there might be cause for concern for the security of others?

    if you say yes then you concede it wasn't racist in nature in any way.
    if you say no (which no doubt you will) then clearly you think that political correctness should take precedence over wider security which is wrong.

    no doubt you wouldn't have qualms with a Black man or Mexican being scrutinised in the same situation, but im not surprised considering you told me 'immigrants own the country now deal with it' you're hardly the beacon of rationality or liberal thinking.
    I'm sure it's common sense. Only if they're guilty. Same goes for all kids. But to single out this particular kid and make a big deal because he happened to be black and a Muslim. Despicable.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    I'm sure it's common sense. Only if they're guilty. Same goes for all kids. But to single out this particular kid and make a big deal because he happened to be black and a Muslim. Despicable.
    Lol 'Only if they're guilty'... you got to be trollin son.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    I'm sure it's common sense. Only if they're guilty. Same goes for all kids. But to single out this particular kid and make a big deal because he happened to be black and a Muslim. Despicable.
    Only guilty people should be arrested?

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    (Original post by DiddyDec)
    Only guilty people should be arrested?

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    Innocent until proven guilty
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Innocent until proven guilty
    Is that a yes or a no?

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    (Original post by DiddyDec)
    Is that a yes or a no?

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    So you'd arrest an innocent person? That's a yes.
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    (Original post by Namandi)
    LOL. There's already a thread about this.

    Why is it disgusting that it was mistaken for a bomb?

    USA doesn't mess around with security. That is common knowledge.

    Once they suspect something could be a threat, they act accordingly.

    Even if it is something as small as a pencil case or in this case, a handmade clock, they act accordingly.

    Are they paranoid? Perhaps

    Would they rather be paranoid than have parents mourning the lives of their children? Definitely
    They didn't act accordingly, though. They didn't evacuate the school, as they should have done if they genuinely suspected a bomb. They left Ahmed and the clock alone in a room together. They called the police, but no bomb squad.
    And the police apparently questioned Ahmed without his parents present, which I think is illegal as he's a minor.

    It doesn't seem like they genuinely thought it was a bomb. It sounds like prejudice.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    So you'd arrest an innocent person? That's a yes.
    That shows your clear lack of understanding of how the law works then. People get arrested when there is reasonable belief that a law has been broken. If there is enough evidence they are taken to court to decide whether they are innocent or guilty. If evidence cannot be brought forward they are released without charge.

    So by your logic nobody should ever be arrested as it is not up to the police to decide innocence or guilt.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    So you'd arrest an innocent person? That's a yes.
    Well yes, that's the entire point. You arrest someone if you have reasonable cause to do so, and then set about establishing their guilt or innocence. If they're innocent until proven guilty, every person is "innocent" at the point of arrest. I don't think the police make a habit of arresting anyone already somehow proven innocent.

    Think that's what the other poster meant, anyway.

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    Maybe if he had told his science teacher about it then there would be no big deal but the news report said he brought it in without telling anyone so surely the unknown surprise played a part in him being arrested as the people went in to an alarmed state of panic u know what I mean?


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    Too many right wingers on here trying to making excuses. How can you be so stupid to think that they didnt arrest him because he was muslim . OF COURSE THEY DID, you know for a fact had a white kid done that he would not be arrested. This was not being safe or genuine worry, they just want to fuel the fire for fear mongering and hatred of islam.
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    (Original post by hasan6091)
    Too many right wingers on here trying to making excuses. How can you be so stupid to think that they didnt arrest him because he was muslim . OF COURSE THEY DID, you know for a fact had a white kid done that he would not be arrested. This was not being safe or genuine worry, they just want to fuel the fire for fear mongering and hatred of islam.
    You're right, it was because he was Muslim. There's a sense of caution when dealing with Muslims, and rightfully so.
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    (Original post by hasan6091)
    Too many right wingers on here trying to making excuses. How can you be so stupid to think that they didnt arrest him because he was muslim . OF COURSE THEY DID, you know for a fact had a white kid done that he would not be arrested. This was not being safe or genuine worry, they just want to fuel the fire for fear mongering and hatred of islam.
    White children in the US have been arrested for much less than this. Some as young as 5.

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    (Original post by Musie Suzie)
    They didn't act accordingly, though. They didn't evacuate the school, as they should have done if they genuinely suspected a bomb. They left Ahmed and the clock alone in a room together. They called the police, but no bomb squad.
    And the police apparently questioned Ahmed without his parents present, which I think is illegal as he's a minor.

    It doesn't seem like they genuinely thought it was a bomb. It sounds like prejudice.
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    Exactly my point.
 
 
 
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