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    New Labour is quite clearly centre-right. Corbyn is probably slightly left of centre. Obama borders on radical right.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    New Labour is quite clearly centre-right. Corbyn is probably slightly left of centre. Obama borders on radical right.
    I Think new labour was centre-right aswell , it focused on more socially conservative social polices such as longer prison sentences , stronger border security and defence... which appealed to a lot of voters

    Do Labour have a credible defence policy yet ?
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    I Think new labour was centre-right aswell , it focused on more socially conservative social polices such as longer prison sentences , stronger border security and defence... which appealed to a lot of voters

    Do Labour have a credible defence policy yet ?
    I think Corbyn's defence policy is 'let everyone else do it'.
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    XD

    Corbyn argued we should stay in the EU to fight TTIP to stop it "destroying" the NHS, last I checked a more reliable way to stop it would be to leave and simply not be party to it, you know, the way that guarantees the safety of the NHS, and a guarantee that counts, not one of those flimsy EU guarantees that expires after 6 months.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    I think Corbyn's defence policy is 'let everyone else do it'.
    I Guess , thats true .... did'nt he say something about abolishing the armed forces ? or just cutting the defence budget ?
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    I Guess , thats true .... did'nt he say something about abolishing the armed forces ? or just cutting the defence budget ?
    I know that an army leader suggested that if he won the army would stage a military coup against him.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    I know that an army leader suggested that if he won the army would stage a military coup against him.
    I heard this to ( Article ) But nobody would support it through
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    If Corbyn did become Prime Minster , this artcle is quite interesting in which the armed forces could revolt and in effect stage mutiny ... Taking over whitehall , Raiding Downing street and forcing Mr Corbyn to resign or to hand power to the head of the armed forces ....

    https://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/we-a...ally-look-like
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    11-12 AprYouGov/The Times 1,639

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    34%
    7%( UKIP)
    5%
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    7%( Other )

    Labour polling 3 points ahead of the tories ... concerning

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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    11-12 AprYouGov/The Times 1,639

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    34%
    7%( UKIP)
    5%
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    7%( Other )

    Labour polling 3 points ahead of the tories ... concerning

    After Panama so a few percent is to be expected, the challenge is to keep that going for the next 4 years

    Also note that it's a -2% for the Tories from their last poll with no labour change, so it's people being briefly put off rather than labour gaining.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    After Panama so a few percent is to be expected, the challenge is to keep that going for the next 4 years

    Also note that it's a -2% for the Tories from their last poll with no labour change, so it's people being briefly put off rather than labour gaining.

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    Very true ! , Just looking at polling up until the 2015 election and Labour were leading by a few pecent for the whole of the term .... however the tories still one ..

    after the GE the tories were always ahead in the polls

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinio...neral_election

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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    Labour polling 3 points ahead of the tories ... concerning
    In what way? They've only been ahead in two of the polls since the GE, including the one you just posted. There's nothing concerning about this at the moment.
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    (Original post by The Financier)
    In what way? They've only been ahead in two of the polls since the GE, including the one you just posted. There's nothing concerning about this at the moment.
    Especially given that there's been a bad month. The budget slipped us from high single digits to low single and Panama and Cameron's suicide note will obviously have a short term effect. Things are still going much better than with the last term, although there you had lots of lib dems jumping ship to the greens for the protest element and labour for the serious but anti tiry element

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    (Original post by The Financier)
    In what way? They've only been ahead in two of the polls since the GE, including the one you just posted. There's nothing concerning about this at the moment.
    Like JD Said it's after all the scandal over panama etc , however i'm just expressing my concern that Mr Corbyn's Labour are ahead of the tories ( If you know what i mean ) another polls found that 30 or so % would prefer Corbyn as PM with 12% Osborne .....
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Especially given that there's been a bad month. The budget slipped us from high single digits to low single and Panama and Cameron's suicide note will obviously have a short term effect. Things are still going much better than with the last term, although there you had lots of lib dems jumping ship to the greens for the protest element and labour for the serious but anti tiry element

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    Would be interesting to when polling when the tory leadership contest starts ... i think that if Boris is elected then the Tories could have a surge in the opinion polls
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    Would be interesting to when polling when the tory leadership contest starts ... i think that if Boris is elected then the Tories could have a surge in the opinion polls
    If may or Osborne is then probably a slide, although may could get some kippers back, unless George actually starts doing popular things and delivering better budgets.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    If may or Osborne is then probably a slide, although may could get some kippers back, unless George actually starts doing popular things and delivering better budgets.

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    If Osborne then i agree polls would slide and the tory party has committed electoral suicide ..... May would without a doubt gain UKIP Voters .... and Boris is Boris .... Everyone loves Boris
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    If Osborne then i agree polls would slide and the tory party has committed electoral suicide ..... May would without a doubt gain UKIP Voters .... and Boris is Boris .... Everyone loves Boris
    Gain on the authoritarian right, yes, but at what cost to the liberal left of the party?

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Gain on the authoritarian right, yes, but at what cost to the liberal left of the party?

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    Then it's possible the more " Liberal " tories could defect to the lib Dems ( If their even their still a party then ) or it would be like the labour party you have the socialists ( Old Labour ) and social democrats / Blue or new labour fractions ?
 
 
 
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