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    TSR National Liberal Party
    6
    3.24%
    TSR Conservative and Unionist Party
    45
    24.32%
    TSR Labour
    44
    23.78%
    TSR UKIP
    24
    12.97%
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    28
    15.14%
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    17
    9.19%
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    (Original post by jamestg)
    No idea, that's why I asked

    I could do a totally non-related poll in the UK politics section?
    That'd probably be permitted. It'd be quite interesting, actually.
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    (Original post by a noble chance)
    I was explaining the idea in RL terms.
    So your whole argument is moot?
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    The odds aren't looking great for any grammar-school-attending revolutionary socialists living in decidedly un-left-wing parts of rural Kent being on TSR either, but hey, here I am
    True, but like Bobby Sands said,
    "Everyone has their part to play. No part is too great or too small; no one is too old or too young to do something."- Bobby Sands
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    (Original post by Whiggy)
    That'd probably be permitted. It'd be quite interesting, actually.
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=4023523
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    True, but like Bobby Sands said,
    "Everyone has their part to play. No part is too great or too small; no one is too old or too young to do something."- Bobby Sands
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    So your whole argument is moot?
    The principle is exactly the same, so no.
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    (Original post by a noble chance)
    The principle is exactly the same, so no.
    In what way?
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Is it that hard to belive? I also haven't been on a bus for the last 5/6 years, probably more but I can't be sure.
    In fairness, I've only been on a train about 3 or 4 times, but that's because Ireland hasn't a very large rail infrastructure. It completely bypasses Fermanagh. I've taken it from Dublin Heuston to Macroom and the other way to Portadown for GAA matches, which is the sole reason I have such good geographical knowledge
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    (Original post by Whiggy)
    I was raised in a Labour household, and although I can sympathise with some Labour policies, IRL I'm more inclined to vote for a centrist alternative.
    This doesn't detract from anything I've said
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    (Original post by a noble chance)
    The principle is exactly the same, so no.
    But when I disproved that on TSR, you said you were talking about RL.
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    (Original post by a noble chance)
    Your version of a manifesto, not manifestos in general

    When in the last 50 years have manifestos done anything but damage the public's faith in politicians?

    When people vote their decision is overwhelmingly decided by how they were raised to vote and/or what their values are. The cruel reality is that - especially in an online student forum election - no one but the hacks involved gives a toss what your housing policies are. You have all wasted your time.

    Elections are never won on your kind of manifesto but trust in politicians is almost always eroded by them because the pledges made in them are abandoned more than they are fulfilled.
    Your argument certainly has validity in elections with the mass PM however this one is much more 'in house'.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    But when I disproved that on TSR, you said you were talking about RL.
    You didn't disprove anything, you totally missed the point of wuat I was saying as you are doing now and made the redundant observation that the TSR Liberals are not the same as the Liberal Democrats
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Your argument certainly has validity in elections with the mass PM however this one is much more 'in house'.
    Unless the internal voters have miraculously mushroomed since the last election this doesn't hold water when you remember that the number of votes in this election is greater than in last's 24 hours before it has concluded. That there has been no mass PM this time around can therefore be assumed to be irrelevant
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    (Original post by a noble chance)
    Unless the internal voters have miraculously mushroomed since the last election this doesn't hold water when you remember that the number of votes in this election is greater than in last's 24 hours before it has concluded. That there has been no mass PM this time around can therefore be assumed to be irrelevant
    There were over 400 votes in the last GE before illegal votes were taken out.
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    (Original post by a noble chance)
    Unless the internal voters have miraculously mushroomed since the last election this doesn't hold water when you remember that the number of votes in this election is greater than in last's 24 hours before it has concluded. That there has been no mass PM this time around can therefore be assumed to be irrelevant
    The last one had a turnout of more than 400, half the votes were culled due to being dupes or ineligible. If your comparing this one to anything it should be the by-election albeit i'm not sure how Labour and the Liberals will split your vote share.
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    (Original post by a noble chance)
    You didn't disprove anything, you totally missed the point of wuat I was saying as you are doing now and made the redundant observation that the TSR Liberals are not the same as the Liberal Democrats
    Let's go over this.
    1. You said people only vote for who they were raised to vote. Since people are mainly raised Labour, Conservative, Nationalists and some Lib Dems, they will not vote Nat Libs. Ergo your party has no point in existing.
    2. You said people vote for others based on their values. Your example was people finding an alternative to the Lib Dems. Since people are not outraged at the Liberals since they haven't made any massive mistakes in their coalition, your party does not need to exist.
    There is also the point of the socialists, greens and UKIP, but since these are very different ideologies than the status quo, and the Nat Libs do not represent a large difference to the Liberals, all the Nat Libs does is split the centrist vote.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    The last one had a turnout of more than 400, half the votes were culled due to being dupes or ineligible. If your comparing this one to anything it should be the by-election albeit i'm not sure how Labour and the Liberals will split your vote share.
    I can't see how anyone who isn't already aware of the national liberals could vote for them, unless they're going off the completely irrelevant RL party. All the Nat Libs have to hope for is that all their active members vote (about 3) and a few people like their name.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Let's go over this.
    1. You said people only vote for who they were raised to vote. Since people are mainly raised Labour, Conservative, Nationalists and some Lib Dems, they will not vote Nat Libs. Ergo your party has no point in existing.
    2. You said people vote for others based on their values. Your example was people finding an alternative to the Lib Dems. Since people are not outraged at the Liberals since they haven't made any massive mistakes in their coalition, your party does not need to exist.
    There is also the point of the socialists, greens and UKIP, but since these are very different ideologies than the status quo, and the Nat Libs do not represent a large difference to the Liberals, all the Nat Libs does is split the centrist vote.
    I think you need to practise your comprehension skills. At the moment this discussion is too tedious to engage in further.
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    (Original post by a noble chance)
    I think you need to practise your comprehension skills. At the moment this discussion is too tedious to engage in further.
    Translation: "I've lost the argument, but I'm not admitting it. Shut up."
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    Grand stretch of morning lads. Must say, Life_peer, Tory manifestos is aesthetically pleasing to look at.
 
 
 
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