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    (Original post by eden3)
    Who are the other elite teams in the East??
    HEAT-Celtics-Bulls, you need more?
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    (Original post by zionpower)
    your English is clear i see it. But basketball is not literature open ur brain save it.
    i doubt that in 1995, u were already born and watching NBA finals, but thanks to youtube. i can now know your stats are coming from pictures from the internet, you are very smart,maybe u need the "Basketball for dummies".
    comparing the dominance of a veteran in 1995 like Hakeem to a rookie like Shaq is non sense.

    Lebron said one day Kobe is the Best so Kobe is better than Lebron?.
    I think I just about understood what you wrote, I was 10 months at the time of the 95 finals so yeah I did end up watching it later *shock* Shaq peaked way earlier than you probably realise. He was dropping almost 30 in the 95 season. He pretty much came into the league maxed out. Do you think 95 Shaq was underdeveloped or something?

    Again, look up the phrase false modesty and realise the difference.
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    (Original post by zionpower)
    HEAT-Celtics-Bulls, you need more?
    You heard the man Heat Celtics Bulls. Put some respek on them
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    Bulls are going to struggle next year, with no accomplished 3 point shooter
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    (Original post by zionpower)
    HEAT-Celtics-Bulls, you need more?
    None of these teams are elite. If they were elite they would be able to contend with the Cavs. They can't.
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    (Original post by JMEisjames)
    Bulls are going to struggle next year, with no accomplished 3 point shooter
    They have Mirotic so its not all bad but calling them elite is just lol, their rookie Denzel Valentine seems to be doing very well at the moment though so perhaps they have something in him. They have 3 guys who all need the ball so wtf is gonna happen. Jimmy is a diva who's gonna rage if Rondo controls the facilitating, and Rondo will probably be pissed if he doesn't get enough touches
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    Jimmy Butler

    3 pt % 2014-15 : 38%
    3 pt % 2015-16: 31 % ??

    Wtf?? Does he just attempt a lot less 3's or something?
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    (Original post by eden3)
    Jimmy Butler

    3 pt % 2014-15 : 38%
    3 pt % 2015-16: 31 % ??

    Wtf?? Does he just attempt a lot less 3's or something?
    OK just checked, no, he actually attempted more 3's in the 15-16 season. Strange
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    (Original post by eden3)
    None of these teams are elite. If they were elite they would be able to contend with the Cavs. They can't.
    depend on what u mean by elite.
    LAC,SAS,OKC are elite in the West because they can contend with GSW? please...

    (Original post by Aristotle's' Disciple)
    I think I just about understood what you wrote, I was 10 months at the time of the 95 finals so yeah I did end up watching it later *shock* Shaq peaked way earlier than you probably realise. He was dropping almost 30 in the 95 season. He pretty much came into the league maxed out. Do you think 95 Shaq was underdeveloped or something?

    Again, look up the phrase false modesty and realise the difference.
    i did say SHAQ was a rookie (almost). and you cannot conclude that because he dominated Shaq in the Finals that is why he is better than him. and again, i believe u are not thinking because someone won the finals that why he is the best.

    if you don't understand say u don't, do not attack my english im not a native speaker. im French. if u can write in french go ahead.
    i hope ur mind is refreshed.
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    (Original post by zionpower)
    depend on what u mean by elite.
    LAC,SAS,OKC are elite in the West because they can contend with GSW? please...


    i did say SHAQ was a rookie (almost). and you cannot conclude that because he dominated Shaq in the Finals that is why he is better than him. and again, i believe u are not thinking because someone won the finals that why he is the best.

    if you don't understand say u don't, do not attack my english im not a native speaker. im French. if u can write in french go ahead.
    i hope ur mind is refreshed.
    But they can contend with GS... if they couldn't OKC wouldn't have held a 3-1 series lead. And their regular season games with the Clipper and Spurs wouldn't have been so close nor so highly anticipated.

    I'm CALLING YOU OUT on your poor English because you're attempting to give witty replies to people WITHOUT fully understanding what they mean. Which is annoying me.

    No Shaq wasn't a rookie, it was his 3rd year in the league and like I said he was dominating early on. A finals series is plenty of proof in determining the calibre of a player, especially in the post. They don't have off games and neither did Shaq, he still averaged 28 PPG over the series. It wasn't a 'bad series' but he was still outmatched.

    Shaq has a greater legacy than Hakeem of course, 3 consecutive FMVP is crazy but it doesn't suggest he was a better player either, breaking down opposition. Also worth noting Shaq was never as good defensively, which is another large reason why Hakeem did well against him.
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    (Original post by zionpower)
    depend on what u mean by elite.
    LAC,SAS,OKC are elite in the West because they can contend with GSW? please...
    Yes they are elite teams.
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    (Original post by Aristotle's' Disciple)
    But they can contend with GS... if they couldn't OKC wouldn't have held a 3-1 series lead. And their regular season games with the Clipper and Spurs wouldn't have been so close nor so highly anticipated.

    I'm CALLING YOU OUT on your poor English because you're attempting to give witty replies to people WITHOUT fully understanding what they mean. Which is annoying me.

    No Shaq wasn't a rookie, it was his 3rd year in the league and like I said he was dominating early on. A finals series is plenty of proof in determining the calibre of a player, especially in the post. They don't have off games and neither did Shaq, he still averaged 28 PPG over the series. It wasn't a 'bad series' but he was still outmatched.

    Shaq has a greater legacy than Hakeem of course, 3 consecutive FMVP is crazy but it doesn't suggest he was a better player either, breaking down opposition. Also worth noting Shaq was never as good defensively, which is another large reason why Hakeem did well against him.
    Keep talking about my English then, if you think your own is wonderful.
    it will annoy you until you dig a hole and bury yourself.
    if that was his third year in the League, thats why i said "almost". and if i reply to others and not mentioning you,please shut up.
    you give ur opinion and i give my own, and that's it.
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    define an elite team
    (Original post by eden3)
    Yes they are elite teams.
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    (Original post by zionpower)
    Keep talking about my English then, if you think your own is wonderful.
    it will annoy you until you dig a hole and bury yourself.
    if that was his third year in the League, thats why i said "almost". and if i reply to others and not mentioning you,please shut up.
    you give ur opinion and i give my own, and that's it.
    If you're wrong why would I? But if you're offended or irritated by my responses that's fine I won't reply.
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    (Original post by zionpower)
    define an elite team
    Title contenders.
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    (Original post by eden3)
    Title contenders.

    that's not a definition. every teams are title contenders.

    (Original post by Aristotle's' Disciple)
    If you're wrong why would I? But if you're offended or irritated by my responses that's fine I won't reply.
    you said you were annoyed, not me.
    stop replying me then from now and teach english to others.
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    (Original post by zionpower)
    that's not a definition. every teams are title contenders.
    So the 76ers are title contenders? The Lakers are title contenders? :rofl:

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    (Original post by zionpower)
    that's not a definition. every teams are title contenders.



    you said you were annoyed, not me.
    stop replying me then from now and teach english to others.
    K

    I won't bother responding to what you just said to Eden :rofl:
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    (Original post by zionpower)
    that's not a definition. every teams are title contenders.
    There are a handful of teams that definitely are not title contenders. What is your definition of an elite team?
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    (Original post by eden3)
    So the 76ers are title contenders? The Lakers are title contenders? :rofl:

    Why not?
 
 
 
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