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    (Original post by ExcitedPup)
    Gay the arabs? Is that what it says?

    Unfortunately, people in the Palestinian territories have to hide being gay or they risk being the victim of an honour killing.

    Thankfully, gay people in Israel are free to live their lives. Do you support the honour killing of gay people?
    It's okay to displace people, steal their homes, take their land and kill the children, because they're nice to gays.

    Brilliant.
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    How the UN runs school and helps to indoctrinate kids in 'palestinian' controlled areas

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    (Original post by LockheedSpooky)
    How the UN runs school and helps to indoctrinate kids in 'palestinian' controlled areas

    Are you some sort of robot, lmao :clap2:
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    (Original post by LockheedSpooky)
    Is that why they agreed to a re-drawn UN partition which gave the so-called 'palestinians' 78% of the land and left 22% to the Jewish people? despite this being a breach of the pledge made by the British?
    I gave evidence to support my assertion in my previous post, which you have ignored.

    Do you have any sources for your assertion that "they agreed to a redrawn UN partition plan which gave the so-called 'palestinians' 78% of the land and left 22% to the Jewish people"?

    The Partition Plan was unjust, and some of the countries who voted in favour of it were bribed by the Zionists and pressured into doing so by the United States. At the time, for practical reasons, the Palestinians should have accepted the Partition Plan, but that doesn't make it any less unjust.
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    Despite France supporting them to the hilt, the despicable 'palestinians' burn the French flag after the Charlie Hebdo attacks.


    Makes you want to give these 'people' a state :rolleyes:






    'palestinian' supporters of ISIS also desecrate the French flag



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    'palestinians' burning the French flag - makes you want to give them a state :rolleyes:


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    (Original post by LockheedSpooky)
    'palestinians' burning the French flag - makes you want to give them a state :rolleyes:


    What an idiotic thing to post. I can now post pictures and videos of Israelis and pro-israeli people watching rocket attacks and chanting death to arabs aswell as burning palestinian flags. Your argument is purely emotional as you cannot actually handle the facts as to why 67 years of conflict has "suddenly" become too much to bear.
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    I legitimately thin lockheed spooky is a robot, posting from a prerecorded list. He hasn't actually put forward an argument yet. It's tragic.
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    (Original post by TheTruthTeller)
    What an idiotic thing to post. I can now post pictures and videos of Israelis and pro-israeli people watching rocket attacks and chanting death to arabs aswell as burning palestinian flags. Your argument is purely emotional as you cannot actually handle the facts as to why 67 years of conflict has "suddenly" become too much to bear.
    I am simply countering the European-spread narrative of the so-called 'palestinians' somehow being peace-loving people and not the ethnic cleansing, murderous, hateful Islamists that they are.

    They've decimated the Christian population.

    Here I posted a video in which these Islamist-minded people who dream of ethnically cleansing the Jews, protested against France after France was the victim of a terrorist attack.

    Now you can choose to be on the wrong side of history. You can choose to support these despicable people who seek to destroy an entire race. These people whose society is increasingly abusing women according to their twisted faith and culture. You can choose to ignore their own words which I posted here, where they admit to being in the GLOBAL war for Islam against the west. You can choose to ignore these abusers of gays and minorities.

    Me, I will fight these despicable people to my last breath and will never give into the petro-dollar funded Pallywood propaganda which is then propagated by the traditional enemies of the Jewish people in mainland Europe.

    You can adorn your keffiyeh and march side by side with Islamists - I won't.
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    'palestinians' abusing the Danish flag - makes you want to give them a state :rolleyes:





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    " peace-loving people and not the ethnic cleansing, murderous, hateful Islamists that they are"
    If I made such a heinous comment about Jews I would be labelled anti-semitic, hateful and the list goes on.

    "They've decimated the Christian population."
    Which is why the majority of Christian Palestinians support the state of Palestine such as George Habbas FOUNDER of PFLP?

    "Here I posted a video in which these Islamist-minded people who dream of ethnically cleansing the Jews, protested against France after France was the victim of a terrorist attack."
    Yes and in the same way I can post videos of Jews chanting death to Arabs as well as israeli soldiers shooting palestinian kids. Emotional points show how the facts cannot be handled unfortunatly.


    "Now you can choose to be on the wrong side of history. You can choose to support these despicable people who seek to destroy an entire race"
    Last time I checked Israel was a "Jewish" state. Hmmm since you regard them as a race that would mean the whole concept of the state is racist in itself ironically. You do not have a "white" state or "black" state. It's hillarious you are infering that every single Palestinian wants to kills Jews when more Palestinians have died from Jews that the other way around.

    "increasingly abusing women according to their twisted faith and culture"
    I'm not sure you have but do you know what an Abrahamic faith is and what religion it stems from. Also have you read the book of Leviticus by any change or the Talmud, They are very errr "twisted" as you put it.

    "You can choose to ignore these abusers of gays and minorities."
    Equal rights for all. Abusers of minorites? Hmmm the same country that you support has been doing that for over 67 years.

    "I will fight these despicable people to my last breath and will never give into the petro-dollar funded Pallywood propaganda"
    I am sure you will fight till the very end ;D Get over yourself most of Hollywood is run by Jewish people.

    "traditional enemies of the Jewish people"
    Jews have had many enemies throughout the years. During WW2 it was the Nazis. Many found refuge in the same land they have conquered now.

    "You can adorn your keffiyeh and march side by side with Islamists - I won't."
    Great emotions, however you fail to mention anything but mere accusations with no facts .The fact is the international community recognises that Israel does not want peace. It is a pariah state and is carrying on building illegal settlements and carries on playing the "never again" card and "they're savages" card.
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    'palestinian' kids. What cuties. Makes you want to give their parents a state :rolleyes:












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    List of countries hated by the so-called 'palestinians, seems to be growing somewhat





    Always the victims, it's never their fault

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    You do now Israel has mandatory conscription right.

    Which means children as young as 15 are put straight into an actual organised military, usual against their will and indoctrinated from a young age right.
    But of course you're just a robot who'll just posting images.
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    ''palestinians' fire rocket into Israel. Fifth rocket in two weeks. No mention in the British mainstream media about the rocket attacks from the perennial terrorists.

    A rocket fired at Israel from Gaza on Saturday night triggered air raid sirens in the Ashkelon and Hof Ashkelon regions. The projectile apparently exploded in an open area, and security forces said they had begun to search for the rocket .

    BBC will report about it only after Israel retaliates.
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    uestion: Which country in the Middle East has just recently used a weapon of mass destruction, a one-ton smart bomb, dropping it in the center of a highly populated area killing civilians including children?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: What country in the Middle East was cited by Amnesty International fordemolishing more than 4000 innocent Palestinian homes as a means of ethnic cleansing?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: What country on Planet Earth has the second most powerful lobby in the United States , according to a recent Fortune magazine survey of Washington insiders?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East receives U.S. weapons for free and then sells the technology to the Republic of China even at the objections of the U.S. ?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East regularly violates the Geneva Convention by imposing collective punishment on entire towns, villages, and camps, for the acts of a few, and even goes as far as demolishing entire villages while people are still in their homes?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely kills young Palestinian children for no reason other than throwing stones at armored vehicles, bulldozers, or tanks?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East seized the sovereign territory of other nations by military force and continues to occupy it in defiance of United Nations Security Council resolutions?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely violates the international borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and artillery and naval gunfire?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: What American ally in the Middle East has for years sent assassins into other countries to kill its political enemies (a practice sometimes called exporting terrorism)?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: In which country in the Middle East have high-ranking military officers admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war were executed?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: What country in the Middle East refuses to prosecute its soldiers who have acknowledged executing prisoners of war?Answer: Israel

    Question: What country in the Middle East created millions of refugees and refuses to allow them to return to their homes, farms and businesses?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: What country in the Middle East refuses to pay compensation to people whose land, bank accounts and businesses it confiscated?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: In what country in the Middle East was a high-ranking United Nations diplomat assassinated?Answer: Israel

    Question: In what country in the Middle East did the man who ordered the assassination of a high-ranking U.N. diplomat become prime minister?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: What country in the Middle East blew up an American diplomatic facility in Egypt and attacked a U.S. ship, the USS Liberty, in international waters, killing 34 and wounding 171 American sailors?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: What country in the Middle East employed a spy, Jonathan Pollard, to steal classified documents from USA and then gave some of them to the Soviet Union ?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: What country at first denied any official connection to Pollard, then voted to make him a citizen and has continuously demanded that the American president grant Pollard a full pardon?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: What Middle East country allows American Jewish murderers to flee to its country to escape punishment in the United States and refuses to extradite them once in their custody?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: What Middle East country preaches against hate yet builds a shrine and a memorial for a murderer who killed 29 Palestinians while they prayed in their Mosque.?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East deliberately targeted a civilian U.N. Refugee Camp in Qana , Lebanon and killed 103 innocent men, women, and especially children?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East is in defiance of 69 United Nations Security Council resolutions and has been protected from 29 more by U.S. vetoes?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East receives more than one-third of all U.S. aid to the world yet is the 16th richest country in the world?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East had its Prime Minister announce to his staff not to worry about what the United States says because "We control America ?"
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East signed the Oslo Accords promising to halt any new Jewish Settlement construction, but instead, has built more than 270 new settlements since the signing?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East has assassinated more than 100 political officials of its opponent in the last 2 years while killing hundreds of civilians in the process, including dozens of children?
    Answer: Israel.
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    'palestinians' - how to win friends and influence people - Jordan seeks to strip top 'palestinians' officials of citizenship.


    Jordan is threatening to revoke the Jordanian citizenship of 30 senior Palestinian Authority officials, including PA President Mahmoud Abbas and his sons, the London-based Al-Quds Al-Arabi newspaper reported over the weekend.

    It said that the threat is seen in the context of the deterioration in relations between Jordan and the PA.

    The latest crisis erupted after the Jordanians accused Jibril Rajoub, Chairman of the Palestinian Football Association, of failing to vote in favor of Prince Ali Hussein for the presidency of the International Federation of Football (FIFA) during its 65th congress in Zurich last week.

    Rajoub, who holds Jordanian citizenship, has been declared persona non grata and banned from entering the kingdom. Rajoub insists that he did vote for Prince Ali.

    According to the report, Jordanian parliament members are working toward convincing the Jordanian government to revoke the citizenship of several PA officials as part of the kingdom’s 1988 decision to cut off its administrative and legal ties with the West Bank.

    The newspaper said that the decision could affect Abbas and his two sons, who have businesses in Jordan.


    :lol::lol:

    The 'palestinians' are the most expert back-stabbers in the region. Is there a single 'friend' that they haven't back-stabbed?

    This entity back-stabbed Kuwait by supporting Saddam's invasion despite Kuwait having given 'palestinians' citizenship and employment :lol:

    They back-stabbed Jordan when the King invited Arafat and his gang into the country, promptly followed by Arafat trying to mount a coup :lol:

    They back-stabbed Lebanon by essentially invading the country, slaughtering the Christian population and using Lebanon as a base from which to attack Israel, bringing destruction on Lebanon :lol:

    They back-stabbed Assad who gave them freedom & funding to plan attacks from their Damascus HQ, but turned on him when war broke out. :lol:

    They back-stabbed their chief terror sponsors in Tehran who funded their rocket attacks on Israel and tunnel digging, and then used their tunnel digging expertise against Iran in Syria :lol:

    They're literally a complete mess :lol:
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    "Last time I checked Israel was a "Jewish" state. Hmmm since you regard them as a race that would mean the whole concept of the state is racist in itself ironically. You do not have a "white" state or "black" state. It's hillarious you are infering that every single Palestinian wants to kills Jews when more Palestinians have died from Jews that the other way around".

    Firstly Israel is a 'state for Jews', the proposed National Homeland law was turned down by the Israeli Supreme Court in 2014. Hence it isn't a racist state. That aside, are all the religous Islamic states racist: the Islamic Repblic of Iran, Saudi Arabia etc...?

    As for your point about Jews/Palestinians. First of all that in its self is racist, infering that all Jews are killing Palestinians. Ignoring that though, why are there so many Palestinian deaths, there shouldn't be loss of life over such a small peace of land (focusing on Gaza where most deaths have occured)?

    - Because Israel targeted facilities of military uses (though as with any army there are still mistakes and Amnesty International has reported the usage of human shields). Why did Israel target places in Gaza?

    - Because Hamas shot rockets into civilian areas of Israel. Why did Hamas shoot rockets?

    - Most people say it is because of the blockade Israel is imposing on Gaza (Eygpt are also imposing a blockade by the way). Why is a blockade being imposed?

    - Because in 2006 rocket fire started from the Gaza strip. Why did rocket fire start?

    - Because Hamas don't recgonise and will never recognise Israel. Hamas want only one type of solution -- a one state solution. Though only one type of state, and completley 'Juden Frei'

    I could go back to Eygptian and Jordanian occupation in 1948 and blame it on them, or even British imperialism post-WW1. However the current conflict, most deaths point in one direction only. I am sure that if Hamas had peaceful intentions and the PA could secure its own supposed peaceful intentions, the whole situation would be alot different. Israel would have no choice in that scenario but to negotiate a two state solution. A peaceful two state-solution would solve everything if it were possible.

    "I'm not sure you have but do you know what an Abrahamic faith is and what religion it stems from. Also have you read the book of Leviticus by any change or the Talmud, They are very errr "twisted" as you put it ".

    Unless you are a scholar of Judaism, spending decades learning the Torah and its surrounding books, you have no righ what so ever to comment on what it says. I you really knew what you are talking about, you would realise that Jews haven't taken everythin word for word, nothing literally. For the past 3000 years, Jews have always argued on how to interpret it, with different rabbis having different opinions. The Talmud is just a recording of Jewish leaders 2000 years ago, argueing over how to interpret different rulings. Indeed just look at most Jews today, majority have intergrated into society whilst still being religous, book of Leviticus isn't followed literally is it? This is partially because Jews know that not all of it is applicable due to the current situation that they are in (i.e. pre-Messianic times) and also because as time goes on things are adapted to be more suitable for that period. Judaism encourages questioning and it is wrong of you to imply that twistedness of one religon stems from anothers teaching's. Though monotheistic, Islam and Judaism are two very different religons.

    "Equal rights for all. Abusers of minorites? Hmmm the same country that you support has been doing that for over 67 years".

    Anyone whom is an Israeli citizen has full equal rights. Hence from that point of view Israel isn't an abuser of minorities and hasn't been doing it for 67 years since its creation. Israel's 'Human Dignity and Liberty' law and the 'Freedom of Occupation' law, serves as proof to this. Though, as with any country, there are divides in society, with backgrounds affecting perspective. Just like the UK, Israel is a vibrant democracy, with there being some social problems. One difference is the almost impossible situation that Israel is in regarding the West Bank. However military occupation is anothere arguement, unrelated to main Israel society.


    "I am sure you will fight till the very end ;D Get over yourself most of Hollywood is run by Jewish people".

    Comments such as this, are extremly offensive to any person in their right mind whom are against indiscriminant hatred. It is an anti-Semetic sterotype. Talking about Israel, one could argue, is one thing. This is just dispicable and disgusting.
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    (Original post by 767)
    "Last time I checked Israel was a "Jewish" state. Hmmm since you regard them as a race that would mean the whole concept of the state is racist in itself ironically. You do not have a "white" state or "black" state. It's hillarious you are infering that every single Palestinian wants to kills Jews when more Palestinians have died from Jews that the other way around".

    Firstly Israel is a 'state for Jews', the proposed National Homeland law was turned down by the Israeli Supreme Court in 2014. Hence it isn't a racist state. That aside, are all the religous Islamic states racist: the Islamic Repblic of Iran, Saudi Arabia etc...?

    As for your point about Jews/Palestinians. First of all that in its self is racist, infering that all Jews are killing Palestinians. Ignoring that though, why are there so many Palestinian deaths, there shouldn't be loss of life over such a small peace of land (focusing on Gaza where most deaths have occured)?

    - Because Israel targeted facilities of military uses (though as with any army there are still mistakes and Amnesty International has reported the usage of human shields). Why did Israel target places in Gaza?

    - Because Hamas shot rockets into civilian areas of Israel. Why did Hamas shoot rockets?

    - Most people say it is because of the blockade Israel is imposing on Gaza (Eygpt are also imposing a blockade by the way). Why is a blockade being imposed?

    - Because in 2006 rocket fire started from the Gaza strip. Why did rocket fire start?

    - Because Hamas don't recgonise and will never recognise Israel. Hamas want only one type of solution -- a one state solution. Though only one type of state, and completley 'Juden Frei'
    This was an interesting "Why" story but for some reason, you seemed to have suddenly stopped.

    Can you please continue with your "Why" story?
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    (Original post by PeaceIsLove)
    uestion: Which country in the Middle East has just recently used a weapon of mass destruction, a one-ton smart bomb, dropping it in the center of a highly populated area killing civilians including children?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: What country in the Middle East was cited by Amnesty International fordemolishing more than 4000 innocent Palestinian homes as a means of ethnic cleansing?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: What country on Planet Earth has the second most powerful lobby in the United States , according to a recent Fortune magazine survey of Washington insiders?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East receives U.S. weapons for free and then sells the technology to the Republic of China even at the objections of the U.S. ?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East regularly violates the Geneva Convention by imposing collective punishment on entire towns, villages, and camps, for the acts of a few, and even goes as far as demolishing entire villages while people are still in their homes?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely kills young Palestinian children for no reason other than throwing stones at armored vehicles, bulldozers, or tanks?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East seized the sovereign territory of other nations by military force and continues to occupy it in defiance of United Nations Security Council resolutions?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely violates the international borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and artillery and naval gunfire?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: What American ally in the Middle East has for years sent assassins into other countries to kill its political enemies (a practice sometimes called exporting terrorism)?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: In which country in the Middle East have high-ranking military officers admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war were executed?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: What country in the Middle East refuses to prosecute its soldiers who have acknowledged executing prisoners of war?Answer: Israel

    Question: What country in the Middle East created millions of refugees and refuses to allow them to return to their homes, farms and businesses?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: What country in the Middle East refuses to pay compensation to people whose land, bank accounts and businesses it confiscated?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: In what country in the Middle East was a high-ranking United Nations diplomat assassinated?Answer: Israel

    Question: In what country in the Middle East did the man who ordered the assassination of a high-ranking U.N. diplomat become prime minister?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: What country in the Middle East blew up an American diplomatic facility in Egypt and attacked a U.S. ship, the USS Liberty, in international waters, killing 34 and wounding 171 American sailors?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: What country in the Middle East employed a spy, Jonathan Pollard, to steal classified documents from USA and then gave some of them to the Soviet Union ?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: What country at first denied any official connection to Pollard, then voted to make him a citizen and has continuously demanded that the American president grant Pollard a full pardon?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: What Middle East country allows American Jewish murderers to flee to its country to escape punishment in the United States and refuses to extradite them once in their custody?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: What Middle East country preaches against hate yet builds a shrine and a memorial for a murderer who killed 29 Palestinians while they prayed in their Mosque.?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East deliberately targeted a civilian U.N. Refugee Camp in Qana , Lebanon and killed 103 innocent men, women, and especially children?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East is in defiance of 69 United Nations Security Council resolutions and has been protected from 29 more by U.S. vetoes?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East receives more than one-third of all U.S. aid to the world yet is the 16th richest country in the world?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East had its Prime Minister announce to his staff not to worry about what the United States says because "We control America ?"
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East signed the Oslo Accords promising to halt any new Jewish Settlement construction, but instead, has built more than 270 new settlements since the signing?
    Answer: Israel

    Question: Which country in the Middle East has assassinated more than 100 political officials of its opponent in the last 2 years while killing hundreds of civilians in the process, including dozens of children?
    Answer: Israel.
    Wow, it appears, from what you have said, that Israel has made an art of making enemies, war and breaking international law. Just wondering where you got all of thos facts from. A lot of them don't appear entirely correct, or are put out of context, shining an unfair light on Israel. Inorder to try and present an impartial view, could you add a link for all these facts on this post. The worry is that these may have come from an anti-Israel surce, that is likely to exaggerate things. As international students we need to look at all sources to view an opinion -- we have the luxury of being impartial. Alternativley, the points could have been made up by yourself to put forth an ignorant view on the matter.
 
 
 
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