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    (Original post by kiwi27)
    Thats right, in service applicants still have to go through the same process, ie application, tests, interview but they aren't in competition with anyone for their post, it's kind of 'reserved' for them. So they just have to prove suitable and they have a place on the program. It's also a permanent job, because they already work in the department so are already employed in a permanent contract. And the in service posts aren't advertised either. I'm an in service applicant for reproductive.

    I have heard that if an in service applicant doesn't pass the process, then the post is offered to the first direct entry reserve for that specialism. Not sure how true it is, but could mean a few more places open up once interviews are done and dusted!
    i met someone who was reluctant to apply to in service route as it means quitting their current employment contract and being on the STP employment contract, which in his case was financially lower and he couldnt afford it so didnt apply.
    Are you saying that this has changed now and you will keep your current contract and salary?
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    (Original post by nech)
    i met someone who was reluctant to apply to in service route as it means quitting their current employment contract and being on the STP employment contract, which in his case was financially lower and he couldnt afford it so didnt apply.
    Are you saying that this has changed now and you will keep your current contract and salary?
    As far as I know, being an in-service applicant means you remain on your substantive contract with your current salary since your hospital is allowing you to do the STP for workforce planning purposes, letting you be released from your regular duties to do other things such as MSc lectures but primarily having to do the STP in your own time. You still have your job and the point of in-service candidates is that upon completion of the STP you will be assimilated into your new role and pay as a registered clinical scientist from your old role. As a direct STP candidate the programme is fixed for three years and after that it is up to the hosting hospital whether they offer you a permanent position if there is a vacant spot.
    Also since in-service candidates are being paid by their trust on the salary they currently earn, it is not true that if an in-service candidate fails to meet the requirements that place is then offered to anyone applying as a direct candidate as that pool of money comes from different sources. If an in-service candidate fails to meet the requirements they will still keep their job and it's not like the NHS can afford to offer up another post.
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    Longlisted too - congrats to all who passed the tests. I'm just grateful my application will actually get read

    Fingers crossed for us on interview selection. The next big wait is now upon us!
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    Good luck to all. To those that haven't been successful dont get too disheartened - I interviewed for cardiac science last year and didn't get through; decided to focus on something else and have just been accepted to study graduate medicine at 2 Russell group unis. Best wishes!!


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    (Original post by Sunny2222)
    I'm a cardiographer in Leeds. Is respiratory your first choice? I hope you get into where you want to 😀
    Hey, I enjoy both cardiac and respiratory and I kind of done everything that would be covered in first year of STP already, but because they only offered respiratory and sleep at Doncaster this year this will be my first choice. I only live 5 minutes away from the hospital so I would be over the moon if I'd got in. I wouldn't mind doing cardiac in Sheffield as well as I commuted to uni every day for 3 years and it was alright so any of these would be amazing <3
    I just wish I could be an in-service applicant Unfortunately our Trust is in like 12 million dept and they-re trying to cut on any spendings that are possible at the moment so no for me this year.. Maybe if I won't get in this year as an direct route I will try as an in-service in next..

    GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!!
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    (Original post by Icandoscience)
    I wanted to go the in service route but unfortunately my department isn't that willing to put people on massive training schemes like this one...so unfortunately I'm going it alone. Bit rubbish that I might potentially have to resign my post but hey ho I just have to give it a try
    Hi, which hospital do you work at? based on your work experience I think you stand a very good chance of making it.. Any ideas as to how to prepare for the technical interview?
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    We will find out about shortlisting from the 21st March right?
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    (Original post by librarygirl)
    We will find out about shortlisting from the 21st March right?
    Yep
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    Hey,

    Has anyone been to one of the open days (particularly medical physics)? I'm thinking of signing up for one but it'd be a bit of a trek and I'd have to miss 1-2 days of uni. Was wondering if anyone had any further info because I can't find much online. It's 10-4 so I'm assuming it's going to be a bunch of talks from different people? (& if you went to one, how useful did you find it?)
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    Hi, I went to an open day for Med Phys and Clinical Engineering, I recommend it. I went before the application deadline, and they gave us plenty of useful tips, do's and don't's for the app form and for the interview, there were people there that were part of the recruitment team in previous years and gave examples of what they were looking for in candidates and what specifically impressed them. Current trainees were also very helpful. And yes there were some talks from people high up in the field and the kind of 'a day in the life of a medical physicist' type talks, all in all I have found it worthwhile.
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    Question: was there anywhere on the application form where you could mention the courses relevant to your specialism that you studied as part of your degree? Except for the supporting questions. Since these aren't always obvious from your degree title only, I am now thinking that maybe I missed something?
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    (Original post by Icandoscience)
    I wanted to go the in service route but unfortunately my department isn't that willing to put people on massive training schemes like this one...so unfortunately I'm going it alone. Bit rubbish that I might potentially have to resign my post but hey ho I just have to give it a try
    that sucks, surely if it doesn't increase your salary then the Hospital won't have to pay any more, why wouldn't they want you to advance your training (other than it costing them more once you gain additional qualifications - but the threat of losing you because they're holding you back should be more worrisome to them!)?
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    (Original post by Leelah25)
    Hi, I went to an open day for Med Phys and Clinical Engineering, I recommend it. I went before the application deadline, and they gave us plenty of useful tips, do's and don't's for the app form and for the interview, there were people there that were part of the recruitment team in previous years and gave examples of what they were looking for in candidates and what specifically impressed them. Current trainees were also very helpful. And yes there were some talks from people high up in the field and the kind of 'a day in the life of a medical physicist' type talks, all in all I have found it worthwhile.

    Was that at Oxford by any chance? I was there for the Clin Eng one.

    (Original post by Leelah25)
    Question: was there anywhere on the application form where you could mention the courses relevant to your specialism that you studied as part of your degree? Except for the supporting questions. Since these aren't always obvious from your degree title only, I am now thinking that maybe I missed something?
    nope, I guess you could have shoehorned that into something about your motivations, but no specific area for it.
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    No, it was the one in Leeds I went to. Are you applying to Clinical Eng? It's my second choice, I think it's one of the least competitive ones ?
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    (Original post by nech)
    i met someone who was reluctant to apply to in service route as it means quitting their current employment contract and being on the STP employment contract, which in his case was financially lower and he couldnt afford it so didnt apply.
    Are you saying that this has changed now and you will keep your current contract and salary?
    I'm a in-service trainee and have remained on my current contract with no change to my salary. The only complicating factor for the trust is that they do not get my full salary to backfill my post for the duration on the training so my backfill either has to be part time or at a lower band than I am currently.
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    (Original post by Leelah25)
    No, it was the one in Leeds I went to. Are you applying to Clinical Eng? It's my second choice, I think it's one of the least competitive ones ?
    Actuallt no, I didn't realise you had to be an engineer for that, and I'm a biologist.
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    (Original post by Leelah25)
    No, it was the one in Leeds I went to. Are you applying to Clinical Eng? It's my second choice, I think it's one of the least competitive ones ?
    Actuallt no, I didn't realise you had to be an engineer for that, and I'm a biologist.
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    (Original post by Leelah25)
    Hi, I went to an open day for Med Phys and Clinical Engineering, I recommend it. I went before the application deadline, and they gave us plenty of useful tips, do's and don't's for the app form and for the interview, there were people there that were part of the recruitment team in previous years and gave examples of what they were looking for in candidates and what specifically impressed them. Current trainees were also very helpful. And yes there were some talks from people high up in the field and the kind of 'a day in the life of a medical physicist' type talks, all in all I have found it worthwhile.
    Thanks for this. I've signed up to go to a med phys open day in Wirral. Bit of a trek (currently in Newcastle) but hopefully it'll be worth it. It's an entire day (10-4) even without any stuff regarding application tips etc so I hope they'll give tips for the interviews.
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    Out of interest, does anyone know what the salary is like for STP positions in London?
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    Hi everyone - first can I just say thank you to everyone on here. I've been a silent lurker for the past few weeks whilst applying and reading your posts has helped me massively! To anyone still waiting, log out and back in again. Refreshing doesn't seem to work! Congrats to all "longlistees" - first hurdle down!
 
 
 
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