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    (Original post by Little Toy Gun)
    So indeed you want the UK to become a muslim country.
    No. That would be an insane conclusion to derive from what I've said.
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    (Original post by 41b)
    No. That would be an insane conclusion to derive from what I've said.
    Not really.

    You want:
    - no feminism
    - no liberalism
    - right wingers to take over politics, education, and the media
    - high birth rates
    - no refugees

    Which exist only in muslim or third-world African christian countries.

    And you even cited rich muslim countries as good examples to follow.
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    If those responsible for these most heinous attacks are found to have done so in the name of a political or religious goal, then the repercussions will be devastating. This series of coordinated attacks is the deadliest to hit Paris since World War II. It’s a sad state of affairs that people automatically jump to assume that Islam is responsible. It’s even worse, however, that people forget the victims in lieu of protecting their faith.

    Perhaps the worst thing anyone can do right now is tell other people how they should feel; that she should direct their anger elsewhere; that they should point their rage in the ‘right’ direction. This is undoubtedly the best option in the long run, but to rob someone of their right to anger immediately after they have been robbed of someone they love is cruel and only serves to create more resentment to those innocent Muslims who did nothing wrong. Let people feel their anger and sorrow as they are entitled to it, and they will come round to realise that these were the acts of extremists who don’t represent an entire religion, but don’t try to silence their grief at the present.

    Killing scores of innocent people aside, these idiots have only served to give more people reason to hate Muslims. In the long run there probably will be severe backlash against the Islamic community, but I think we can all agree that at this very moment that the suffering of those affected both physically and mentally from such atrocities far outweighs the hurt feelings of Muslims. To add monikers like ‘the religion of peace’ to try to defend Islam is pointless. No religion is peaceful, that is a tried and tested fact from countless wars and conflicts up to present done in the name of a faith that not everyone shares. Every major religion has been hijacked by extremists killing innocent people in the name of their faith, so don’t try to tell me Islam is innocent.

    Maybe Islam didn’t cause this, but religion can certainly be held responsible in some way. But just because I haven’t specified which religion doesn’t make it any less about Islam, any less than the crusades were caused by Christians or the Ikkō-ikki rebellion was caused by Buddhists. Terrorism is definitely the immediate cause of these horrible crimes, that much is true. But religion has definitely played a part in it.

    Right now, however, it’s not ideal to focus on those responsible as much as we should bow our heads for the deceased. More often than not, nowadays, we are quick to forget the victims in favour of political leverage, attacking an ideology, or gathering popular support through social media such as Twitter or Facebook. If you have a shred of sympathy for the victims in Paris and the families and friends of those affected, you won’t burden the attacks in Paris with political bandwagon. That isn’t me saying don’t speak your mind or don’t see the wider picture or implications. I’m simply trying to point out that the well-being and memory of the victims is worth more than capitalising on this travesty or by sympathising with the lesser of the two.

    Yes, Israel is horrible and they have a terrible human rights track record, and something has to be done about their actions regarding Palestine; yes, the Iraq War and the War in Afghanistan were terrible, and have claimed thousands of innocent lives; yes, the US and the UK have hypocritical approaches in the international stage regarding terrorism. And yes, there are other tragedies going on right now in the likes of Japan, Mexico, Iraq, and other nations worldwide, and they deserve their own mourning and moment of silence. But they deserve them in their own time. Right now these other events are not the focus of what has happened in Paris and trying to compare other, equally terrible events will only scatter people than unite them.
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    Concerned to see what the response will be, if Calais is anything to go by.

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    7 terrorists killed, at least 5 on the run.
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    (Original post by Josb)
    7 terrorists killed, at least 5 on the run.
    Hopefully they'll be found and exterminated in the most gruesome fashion known to man.
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    8 terrorists killed.
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    120 dead, 200 injured (80 in terrible state).
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    (Original post by hoping4Astars)
    I hope the attackers repent and turn to Christ. Hope God will protect those in the Bataclan theatre in the ongoing hostage situation.
    Well, as usual God failed pretty miserably at protecting anybody. Epic fail. God: Nil poin
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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    Concerned to see what the response will be, if Calais is anything to go by.

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    (Original post by The Financier)
    I can't speak for them obviously, but in the mind of a Jihadist they may see the attack as one by the West in general, rather than just the US. It may also be easier to perform these attacks in France.

    Either way, this is just speculation.
    I understand.

    France are notable allies with the US... in some cases, more than the UK.

    Also, France is an easier target in terms of borders.
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    (Original post by Evening)
    It’s a sad state of affairs that people automatically jump to assume that Islam is responsible
    You'd have to be pretty thick to think anybody else did it.
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    (Original post by billydisco)
    You'd have to be pretty thick to think anybody else did it.

    It's absurd that "true" Muslims are dissociating themselves from these heinuous acts of cruelty and brutality.

    It's not hard for Austrians and Germans to reflect and acknowledge some responsability for the crimes of the Nazis... but as soon as you raise questions about Islam, all "true" muslims put their hands up and say "No, not us".

    ****ing absurd.
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    I don't understand why a kamikaze blew himself off before the gates of the Stade de France. There was nobody. :confused:
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    (Original post by Josb)
    I don't understand why a kamikaze blew himself off before the gates of the Stade de France. There was nobody. :confused:
    Some people are stupid? :confused:
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    (Original post by Little Toy Gun)
    Some people are stupid? :confused:
    Probably because they were so many people inside the Stade de France including the French President. It's basically saying "look at our power; we could have killed so many people even your president". It's quite a strong message.

    I'm absolutely horrified of what just happened.
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    But but we need to be more tolerant..................... 700,000 more 3rd world middle easterners pls

    Where are all those losers with their #RefugeeWelcome rubbish now? Where are they all hiding?
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    (Original post by anelisesg)
    Probably because they were so many people inside the Stade de France including the French President. It's basically saying "look at our power; we could have killed so many people even your president". It's quite a strong message.

    I'm absolutely horrified of what just happened.
    I'm guessing the Islamic State's FIFA application is going to be shelved for the foreseeable future

    It seems like they didn't have the balls to make a proper assassination attempt on the French president and I don't blame them. Lord only knows what would have happened to French Muslims and IS militants if that had happened.
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    Why do they kill themselves after the attacks? Just to avoid imprisonment? or are their other reasons?
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    quelle horreur! c'est vraiment triste et j'espère les kamikazes brûlent dans leur enfer

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    My French is so poor wow
 
 
 
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