Turn on thread page Beta
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Thunder and Jazz)
    Well, it's not like that referendum will actually give them independance now is it. And it;s not like the entire RL Lib Dem party is behing the leadership's policy, or even the entire Scottish party. And it's not like the TSR Lib Dems have thought about this, much the same as any party on TSR. And it's not like the "democrat" part is actually to do with democracy anyway. And it's not like 'democracy' in this country is fair anyway.

    So... what's your point?
    Yawn.
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Adorno)
    Yawn.
    Oh come on, you asked a fairly pointless question and I gave you an appropriate answer. No need to throw out the petty one liners.
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Thunder and Jazz)
    Oh come on, you asked a fairly pointless question and I gave you an appropriate answer. No need to throw out the petty one liners.
    ********. My question was related to this notion that the Liberal Democrats somehow pretend to be the fairest party - based on their insistence on PR voting systems - and yet when it comes to national determination for Scotland they are firmly against Scots even being allowed a democratic choice. It demonstrates that the Lib Dems are afraid of Devolution and are willing to scaremonger along with the Tories.

    If YOU cannot be bothered to answer properly then leave it for someone who can.
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Adorno)
    ********. My question was related to this notion that the Liberal Democrats somehow pretend to be the fairest party - based on their insistence on PR voting systems - and yet when it comes to national determination for Scotland they are firmly against Scots even being allowed a democratic choice. It demonstrates that the Lib Dems are afraid of Devolution and are willing to scaremonger along with the Tories.
    But fcr the reasons outlined in my previous post, I don't feel that it's as big an issue as you do. This referendum will not bring in independance. From what I read, the Scottish RL Lib Dems feel the poll will be biased and unrepresentative. If such critisms are true then no, this referendum should not go ahead in this form. If not, go for it, but it will make little difference in my view. There is of course the argument that it is the first rung of the ladder and by that token, perhaps the Scottish LDs have it wrong on this one.
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Thunder and Jazz)
    But fcr the reasons outlined in my previous post, I don't feel that it's as big an issue as you do. This referendum will not bring in independance. From what I read, the Scottish RL Lib Dems feel the poll will be biased and unrepresentative. If such critisms are true then no, this referendum should not go ahead in this form. If not, go for it, but it will make little difference in my view. There is of course the argument that it is the first rung of the ladder and by that token, perhaps the Scottish LDs have it wrong on this one.
    Then surely the Lib Dems should be willing to engage with the SNP to frame the question so that it is as fair as possible rather than blanketly refusing to allow the Scottish people their own say??? Surely by blocking that voice they are playing into the hands of the nationalists and fostering anti-Union sentiment?
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Adorno)
    Then surely the Lib Dems should be willing to engage with the SNP to frame the question so that it is as fair as possible rather than blanketly refusing to allow the Scottish people their own say??? Surely by blocking that voice they are playing into the hands of the nationalists and fostering anti-Union sentiment?
    I thought the opposition were asking for a fairer referendum if there was one?
    Offline

    8
    There are many issues facing the country today: massive debt, the recession, Afghanistan, immigration, to name a few. If the Liberal Democrats were to prioritise three issues, which they felt were most important, what would they be?
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    Hmm, having had a party meeting this evening I'm not sure I can say that there are three that the entire party would agree on.

    Good question. Will get back to you.
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    Will the Lib Dems be answering the questions sent to you by Dayne?
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    For now, we are planning to yeah.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    What is the TSR Lib Dem's view on devolution?
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    Well, we tried to push through a bill on the matter but it failed. It was essentially giving the same powers that Scotland currently has, plus a few more I believe, to Wales, Northern Ireland, Southern and Northern England. Personally I wasn't a great fan of it and there were several problems shown to us in the readings stage.

    Basic rule: On TSR, there's virtually nothing you can do about devolution or Europe.

    Personally, I support the idea of a referendum on independance for any country/area where it is desired by a reasonable portion of the population. Not, however, the kind that the RL SNP is trying for at the moment.
    Offline

    14
    ReputationRep:
    Following from my earlier thread, I'd appreciate if you could answer some questions:

    What is your policy on the railways? (do you think they're better private or public etc.)

    What is your policy on the Royal Mail? (particularly the recent strikes and privatisation)

    What's you immigration policy?

    What is your policy on the EU, and the potential addition of Turkey?

    What is your policy on the bail-outs of banks, and their 'bonus culture'?

    What is your policy towards Heathrow expansion?

    What is your energy policy regarding nuclear, renewables and fossil fuels?

    What is your opinion on tax and the rates of it?
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by PJ991)
    What is your policy on the railways? (do you think they're better private or public etc.)
    Personally I'd prefer it franchised out, where the companies are conditioned to provide a better service than is currently the case in some parts of the country.

    What is your policy on the Royal Mail? (particularly the recent strikes and privatisation)
    The strikes of recent weeks are idiotic and a step on to the path of doom. The problem is that the Royal Mail has lost the profitanble parts of it's business. There have to be changes and it is likely that some of them will be unpopular with the unions. If that's what needs to be done then bring it on I say. I'm not against parivatisation per se, but I'm not sure about current dialogue.

    What's you immigration policy?
    It has to be fair, and we have to let those who legitimately wish to live and work here come. The main problem is not the policy of the RL government but the policing and implementation of the system. Make it more efficient and you'll be in a much better position.

    Linking in is education because of the increasing diversity of our schools; we need to improve basic English education for all pupils, not just those from different countries, and also put MFIs back on the Curriculum. Britain must remain tolerant and proud of its diversity, and communication lies at the heart of that.

    What is your policy on the EU, and the potential addition of Turkey?
    We are 'pro EU', though that's not a particularly good term. We do want a referendum on whether we should remain in Europe because we believe the people have a right to be heard. Turkey is not yet ready to join, politically or culturally, in my opinion. Their actions in Northern Iraq show this.

    What is your policy on the bail-outs of banks, and their 'bonus culture'?
    Bonus culture must be stopped, but I'm not sure if there's any policy towards achieving this I particularly like. I'll let someone more qualified answer the question.

    What is your policy towards Heathrow expansion?
    I'm for it, though I doubt the rest of the party is.

    What is your energy policy regarding nuclear, renewables and fossil fuels?
    We are pro nuclear, committed to getting renewable energy and energy efficiency massively boosted. We are also pro Coal; if properly safeguarded it is still a good source of energy. At the end of the day, we need energy. When the time comes that renewable energy can fulfill our needs, coal should cease to be a main resource. Sadly that time is not here.

    What is your opinion on tax and the rates of it?
    I'll let someone more qualified answer this.

    Hope this gives you some idea. Bear in mind, there will be differences of opinion within the party

    (Original post by Eru Iluvatar)
    X
    Have fun.
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Adorno)
    Sorry, that's actually my bad: I mean to say you and Eru were the ones in the Lib Dems with principles!!! :o:
    Lol, well, I'll take the compliment but its not true to say that the rest of the party don't have any. However, you will of course find different ratios of pragmatism to ideology in each individual. As a party, we try to stick to our core beliefs without closing down options that may be of greater practical use.
    Offline

    8
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8371446.stm

    The link above is a report from the BBC, about the recent news in regard to the UK couple (Paul and Rachel Chandler) who have been kidnapped by Somali pirates. The pirates have demanded a ransom and are threatening to kill the couple.

    What would action would the TSR Liberal Democrats take? Would they support the Government's policy of not bowing down to ransoms; if so what other measures can be taken to ensure the safety of two innocent British citizens?
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by abucha3)
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8371446.stm

    The link above is a report from the BBC, about the recent news in regard to the UK couple (Paul and Rachel Chandler) who have been kidnapped by Somali pirates. The pirates have demanded a ransom and are threatening to kill the couple.

    What would action would the TSR Liberal Democrats take? Would they support the Government's policy of not bowing down to ransoms; if so what other measures can be taken to ensure the safety of two innocent British citizens?
    The issue with ransoms is if the government, whoever was in charge, even once gave in to them, it would encourage an exponential increase in such ransom demands for our citizens, increasing the risk, as well as further funding their criminal actions.

    The only real option in this case is to try to work with the Somalian government, to try and find and free these people and offer whatever support is needed in the efforts to release them. Given the difficulties in the country, its certainly not an easy thing to do, but we can't ignore the situation, or give in to those demands, so it is the only option i can see.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    What are the TSR Lib Dems aims this term?
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Socialist-Future)
    What are the TSR Lib Dems aims this term?
    Our manifesto is in the General election thread.

    We will be pushing such issues as personal freedom, sustainable welfare and sustainable energy. This will be slightly different if we end up in a coalition.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Thunder and Jazz)
    Our manifesto is in the General election thread.

    We will be pushing such issues as personal freedom, sustainable welfare and sustainable energy. This will be slightly different if we end up in a coalition.
    Thanks for the answer.
 
 
 
Poll
Were you ever put in isolation at school?

The Student Room, Get Revising and Marked by Teachers are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd.

Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: International House, Queens Road, Brighton, BN1 3XE

Write a reply...
Reply
Hide
Reputation gems: You get these gems as you gain rep from other members for making good contributions and giving helpful advice.