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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    I would say Israel - let's face it, if Israel hadn't annexed Gaza and the West Bank there probably wouldn't be a conflict any longer - but the Palestinians certainly haven't helped themselves by turning violent and firing rockets at Israel.
    The conflict in Gaza got worse when the Israelis gave the land back, so your logic is flawed.

    If the Palestinians just wanted land then it wouldn't be the Israel/Palestine conflict, it would be the Israel-Egypt-Jordan/Palestine conflict.
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    (Original post by felamaslen)
    The conflict in Gaza got worse when the Israelis gave the land back, so your logic is flawed.
    Yes, but if Israel hadn't annexed Gaza in the first place and had left it part of Egypt, the conflict wouldn't have started.
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    Yes, but if Israel hadn't annexed Gaza in the first place and had left it part of Egypt, the conflict wouldn't have started.
    The conflict which has been going on since the 1920s started because Israel conquered Gaza in 1967?
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    Those Zionists are thinking about the future. This is only the beggining of their plan.:beard:

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    Israel are the oppressors. Just murdering and massacring the Arabs one by one and stealing their land
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Israel are the oppressors. Just murdering and massacring the Arabs one by one and stealing their land
    One thing you will begin to notice, OP, is that the death-to-Israel crowd feel no shame about throwing out massive, hysterical statements with no regard for truth. The above is a case in point, a statement that has nothing to do with the world we live in, but will be endlessly and shrilly repeated in the hope that the taint will stick, or that people, hearing it so often, will become numb to how truly ridiculous and perverse it is.
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    (Original post by AdvanceAndVanquish)
    One thing you will begin to notice, OP, is that the death-to-Israel crowd feel no shame about throwing out massive, hysterical statements with no regard for truth. The above is a case in point, a statement that has nothing to do with the world we live in, but will be endlessly and shrilly repeated in the hope that the taint will stick, or that people, hearing it so often, will become numb to how truly ridiculous and perverse it is.
    Oh hush puppy. You can't say none of it is true,we see it on the news everyday. Not a single him has been built since the last destruction this time last year by the Israelis. In fact,the Israelis were loving the action,watching it on wide screen TVs. What broke my heart the most was those 4 little boys playing on the beach killed by Israelis soldiers.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Oh hush puppy. You can't say none of it is true,we see it on the news everyday. Not a single him has been built since the last destruction this time last year by the Israelis. In fact,the Israelis were loving the action,watching it on wide screen TVs. What broke my heart the most was those 4 little boys playing on the beach killed by Israelis soldiers.
    Not true. Hamas have claimed responsibility for the attack. But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your racist prejudices, right? http://www.thomaswictor.com/hamas-co...ion-operation/
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    (Original post by alexgr97)
    Not true. Hamas have claimed responsibility for the attack. But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your racist prejudices, right? http://www.thomaswictor.com/hamas-co...ion-operation/
    Yeah sure they did. Zionist propaganda
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    (Original post by AdvanceAndVanquish)
    The conflict which has been going on since the 1920s started because Israel conquered Gaza in 1967?
    But between 1948 and 1967 Gaza was relatively peaceful compared to recently. There is no reason to suppose that had Israel not annexed it it would not be effectively a normal Egyptian province today. By 'conflict' I mean more the intifada and related events.
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    Yes, but if Israel hadn't annexed Gaza in the first place and had left it part of Egypt, the conflict wouldn't have started.
    The conflict started before 1967.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Yeah sure they did. Zionist propaganda
    Nice, you carry on with that support for a genocidal terrorist organisation with a fetish for murdering Jews. Stay classy.
    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    But between 1948 and 1967 Gaza was relatively peaceful compared to recently. There is no reason to suppose that had Israel not annexed it it would not be effectively a normal Egyptian province today. By 'conflict' I mean more the intifada and related events.
    Yeah Israel is totally at fault for existing. If only Israel didn't exist, then it would never have been attacked by a bunch of lunatic Arab armies and taken the land in the subsequent wars.
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    A lot of critisism there about my first post. I made a few comments based on examples I've seen. I don't see why casualty count is "innaproppriate." Tell that to all the Israeli and Palestinian families that it shouldn't be considered. Of course it is appropriate. From that data we can see the difference in numbers which acts as a springboard to see if there is also a difference in the level of destruction. Gaza have not helped by firing rockets over of course but let's not forget. East Jerusalem is a holy area for muslims and without any consideration for this it was given to the Israeli community. The lack of thought and consideration started this. I don't blame the muslims at all.

    Oh and let's not forget something. About a decade ago a conflict between Lebanon and Israel occurred. Funny how Israel seems to be caught up in the fight all the time.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Oh hush puppy. You can't say none of it is true,we see it on the news everyday. Not a single him has been built since the last destruction this time last year by the Israelis. In fact,the Israelis were loving the action,watching it on wide screen TVs. What broke my heart the most was those 4 little boys playing on the beach killed by Israelis soldiers.
    You made vast and ludicrous claims in your original post which barely, if at all, interact with the world that actually exists. What you have done here is equivalent to screaming in the middle of the street "That man murdered my parents!" and then when asked for specifics about the murder explain how he bumped your shoulder...and that's it. "But it really hurt!"
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    (Original post by alexgr97)
    Nice, you carry on with that support for a genocidal terrorist organisation with a fetish for murdering Jews. Stay classy.
    Yeah Israel is totally at fault for existing. If only Israel didn't exist, then it would never have been attacked by a bunch of lunatic Arab armies and taken the land in the subsequent wars.
    Hahahah the only one who gets excited and start celebrating when Palestinians are murdered are the zionists. Calm yourself little boy
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    (Original post by AdvanceAndVanquish)
    You made vast and ludicrous claims in your original post which barely, if at all, interact with the world that actually exists. What you have done here is equivalent to screaming in the middle of the street "That man murdered my parents!" and then when asked for specifics about the murder explain how he bumped your shoulder...and that's it. "But it really hurt!"
    Go turn on the news the next time Israel decides to invade gaza and watch the international community begging the zionists to stop killing Palestinians. Theyre so evil that they were even attacking refugee camps where people were being treated and shelling hospitals. These people are cold blooded murderers
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    (Original post by Zaki Hendrix)
    A lot of critisism there about my first post. I made a few comments based on examples I've seen. I don't see why casualty count is "innaproppriate." Tell that to all the Israeli and Palestinian families that it shouldn't be considered. Of course it is appropriate.
    Israel builds shelters, has alarm systems, invests millions in rocket defense systems.
    Gaza does nothing, except Hamas forces its civilians to stay where they are to rack up the civilian death count and builds tunnels into Israel. I wonder what these tunnels could be used for? They sound like a lovely playground to me.

    East Jerusalem is a holy area for muslims and without any consideration for this it was given to the Israeli community.
    Muslims can go into East Jerusalem...in fact, don't forget about 20% of the Israeli population is Muslim.

    Oh and let's not forget something. About a decade ago a conflict between Lebanon and Israel occurred. Funny how Israel seems to be caught up in the fight all the time.
    Because it's surrounded by a bunch of antisemites whose own charters declare their desire to eradicate the Jewish state!
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Hahahah the only one who gets excited and start celebrating when Palestinians are murdered are the zionists. Calm yourself little boy
    Nope, the only one that celebrates when people die is you.

    Answer me this - do you support a two state solution, bringing peace and harmony to the region?
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    (Original post by SotonianOne)
    Palestine.

    Attacking Israel consistently for a century and then moaning when they lose land in a war. They should all emigrate to Jordan/Egypt or stfu
    WHHATTT????
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    (Original post by SotonianOne)
    Palestine.

    Attacking Israel consistently for a century and then moaning when they lose land in a war. They should all emigrate to Jordan/Egypt or stfu
    Learn your history.It was the Arab states who attacked Israel most of this century,not Palestine.
 
 
 
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