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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    What are the thoughts of TSR Labour on May leading Corbyn by 105 points with over 55s, and even leading in the 18-24 category, which is supposed to be core support?

    Further, what are your thoughts on the results of the Ashcroft polls published yesterday showing that the only polled area where Labour is preferred outside margin of error is the NHS, and even here the results are feeble in comparison to where they "should" be and the Tory leads in their natural areas?

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    The polls are simply reflecting the reality of all the negative press around the Labour Party. The coup and the leadership challenge in recent months mean that the Labour Parties policies are not clear and they do not look like a party of government. Fortunately as parliament has been in recess and there doesn't look like being a general election any time soon, it is a bit irrelevant. Hopefully once the leadership election is over they will present a more united party and pick up some attention in opposition and with a clearer policy platform. Unfortunately I don't think this is likely to happen as the hard core of the old guard 'new' Labour are still going to be stirring things up, whatever the result and the press will continue to focus its attention on this, rather than anything positive the party may achieve. The other side of this is that May hasn't really done anything yet, once she gets going she will start to annoy a big portion of the electorate, especially the 'leave' voters.
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    Wellzi has replaced McRite in seat 22.

    Well done to Wellzi, it's good to see you on the Labour benched.

    I'd also just like to take the time to thank McRite for all he has done, and say I hope he continues to pop in when he can.
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    With the news that the comrade would not defend the Baltics against a Russian attack, can TSR Labour confirm their own view.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    With the news that the comrade would not defend the Baltics against a Russian attack, can TSR Labour confirm their own view.
    Depends, I'd support the resistance movements of the member states and I'd supply the Baltics, but I would struggle to physically stand up to Russia without NATO support. The answer is that no, in this circumstance, I probably wouldn't provoke physical confrontation. I would consider targeting infrastructure.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    With the news that the comrade would not defend the Baltics against a Russian attack, can TSR Labour confirm their own view.
    I've not seen this when I was looking at the guardian's site but I imagine what tbm said would be my response as well. Taking on Russia just wouldn't be possible, this was confirmed I think this week by the military iirc.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    With the news that the comrade would not defend the Baltics against a Russian attack, can TSR Labour confirm their own view.
    Speaking purely in a personal capacity, I would absolutely be willing to use British forces as part of a NATO effort to defend their sovereignty in whatever manner was deemed prudent.
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    (Original post by Kay_Winters)
    I've not seen this when I was looking at the guardian's site but I imagine what tbm said would be my response as well. Taking on Russia just wouldn't be possible, this was confirmed I think this week by the military iirc.
    In a shock attack, no. But a combined UK-French force (never mind the US) would have naval and air superiority with regards to driving them back.

    If your not prepared to fight for NATO and EU members then can I confirm that you would withdraw.

    Also, generals on TV often downplay to get more money just like the NHS.
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    I suspect the Shadow Defence Secretary and I would have similar views on this matter Rakas.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    I suspect the Shadow Defence Secretary and I would have similar views on this matter Rakas.
    Can say for certain that the SoS doesn't.
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    (Original post by Saoirse:3)
    Speaking purely in a personal capacity, I would absolutely be willing to use British forces as part of a NATO effort to defend their sovereignty in whatever manner was deemed prudent.
    Even after all this time i still often struggle to believe you just said something like that. A good thing obviously, we should honour our agreements as a nation.

    Do you have any idea just how far gone you were back in the old days.
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    How can corbyn be against helping the baltics? He's mentioned to be an honest man of his word.

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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Even after all this time i still often struggle to believe you just said something like that. A good thing obviously, we should honour our agreements as a nation.

    Do you have any idea just how far gone you were back in the old days.
    Absolutely - and even beyond it being a part of our responsibilities, there's nothing socialist about letting the likes of Putin run amock to inflict his will on whoever he can get away with.

    Pretty far gone, at one point
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    TheBeardedMan will be proxying Seat 50 until further notice.
    Who?
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    The bearded man who goes by the name 'That Bearded Man'.
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    The bearded man who goes by the name 'That Bearded Man'.
    Nice save
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