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    (Original post by IceJJFish(II))
    So I'm projecting, but yet you proceed to do the exact same thing a matter of words later....




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    How?

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    "This is trademark Pakistani"- clear prejudice :rolleyes:


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    (Original post by IceJJFish(II))
    "This is trademark Pakistani"- clear prejudice :rolleyes:


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    So you deny that? Yet to have a Pakistani friend who says he's proud to be British, and I definitely have more than one or two.

    That wasn't projecting either though, and I still think my point stands. Just because your community are like that, doesn't mean other immigrant communities have been. As I said, there are non white Lords, how are they not British? How is Karan Billamoria not British? How is Doreen Lawrence not British?

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    So you deny that? Yet to have a Pakistani friend who says he's proud to be British, and I definitely have more than one or two.
    So your more than 2 Pakistani friends now speak for a population of millions in the UK.... Ok.
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    That wasn't projecting either though, and I still think my point stands. Just because your community are like that, doesn't mean other immigrant communities have been. As I said, there are non white Lords, how are they not British? How is Karan Billamoria not British? How is Doreen Lawrence not British?

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    Like how you missed out Baroness Warsi.

    They're not British because they don't originate from here, your ethnicity isn't determined by where you live. Nationality wise they are "British (insert real country they're from)" and even that's only for political purposes. Of course they can stand for British values and represent Britain on the world stage, but they're not British.




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    (Original post by IceJJFish(II))
    ^ lol at the post above. What do you guys think, do you constitute Indians/Pakistani's/ethnics as British simply because they live here? I don't.


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    There's some many ways to interpret that.

    If they were born in Britain? Yes
    If they moved here at a very early age? Yes
    If they moved here in their teens? No
    If their parents are British? Yes
    If they moved here as an adult? No

    To use your example of Mo Farah, he moved to England as a child and has a British parent. So i'd class him as British.
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    (Original post by sr90)
    There's some many ways to interpret that.

    If they were born in Britain? Yes
    If they moved here at a very early age? Yes
    If they moved here in their teens? No
    If their parents are British? Yes
    If they moved here as an adult? No

    To use your example of Mo Farah, he moved to England as a child and has a British parent. So i'd class him as British.
    Hmm interesting views. I would disagree though. I think that immigrants can contribute a lot to society, fully integrate and hold British values but they're not British. Though I don't know why they would classify themselves as British, they should be proud of their origins in the same way I would like say an Englishman born in Africa to be proud of his roots and classify himself as British.


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    (Original post by IceJJFish(II))
    ... So marrying an Englishman makes your British? I think I want to be Nigerian, guess I'll marry a Nigerian lady then :laugh: I don't think anyone would argue she is British and I'm quite confused that you do to be honest.

    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=2976847

    Made a thread about it by the way, everyone please vote and express opinions.


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    Why do you lots always use Nigeria as an example lmao.
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    (Original post by Lyrical Prodigy)
    To buy a Macbook Air, would it be better to get it directly from the Apple store or just get it from PC World, its the same price at either places its just a matter of where to purchase it.
    If you've got a John Lewis near you go there. Might be a tad more expensive but their aftercare service is unbeatable.

    (Original post by IceJJFish(II))
    Hmm interesting views. I would disagree though. I think that immigrants can contribute a lot to society, fully integrate and hold British values but they're not British. Though I don't know why they would classify themselves as British, they should be proud of their origins in the same way I would like say an Englishman born in Africa to be proud of his roots and classify himself as British.
    Oh I don't disagree, but what generation do you draw the line? Should someone like Danny Welbeck (born in Manchester to Ghanaian parents), Raheem Sterling (born in Jamaica) or Saido Berahino (who arrived here as an immigrant) not consider themselves to be British?
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    Thinking of organising the 2014 FF awards soon as well, would people be up for that?

    Think Jam won everything last year :laugh:

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    (Original post by IceJJFish(II))
    So your more than 2 Pakistani friends now speak for a population of millions in the UK.... Ok.


    Like how you missed out Baroness Warsi.

    They're not British because they don't originate from here, your ethnicity isn't determined by where you live. Nationality wise they are "British (insert real country they're from)" and even that's only for political purposes. Of course they can stand for British values and represent Britain on the world stage, but they're not British.




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    Lol I forgot her, seen her loads of times on question time. But there you go, is she not British? She's invested her ENTIRE life into this country, she is as British as British can be.

    I never argued that their ethnicity changes. British is not a race/ethnicity at all. I can understand if you said I can't be 'English' even if I have English values.

    Either way I maintain the lady on make Leicester British was British.

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    If you've got a John Lewis near you go there. Might be a tad more expensive but their aftercare service is unbeatable.
    Yeah I do have one near me. That's what's important to me the after care, if anything goes wrong with the macbook who will offer me better service/care? Thanks for the response.


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    Thinking of organising the 2014 FF awards soon as well, would people be up for that?

    Think Jam won everything last year :laugh:
    Ohh yes please!
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    Bender/Da Silva award - Best dupe
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    (Original post by Lyrical Prodigy)
    To buy a Macbook Air, would it be better to get it directly from the Apple store or just get it from PC World, its the same price at either places its just a matter of where to purchase it.
    Well if you're in uni you'll get Education discount of 14% if you order from Apple I believe.

    But yeah John Lewis giving 3 year guarantee for free. Both good offers.
 
 
 
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