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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    Most of the membership probably do not know Andrea Leadsom very well yet, and so if it comes to a May V Leadsom ballot, this does not make it a foregone conclusion.
    I suspect May wins anyway if those two are in the final two. May is not a Europhile, she's perceived as competent and she's perceived as strong. Leadsome is an unknown minor minister.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Is he saying that unions are great and they need to be able to cripple governments again?

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    He did say that it unions should broker a peace deal within the PLP....

    Regardless, he's still toeing the media/blairite/establishment/lizard people stich up line. We all know that moderate MPs helped orchestrate a coup, but he's finding it hard to accept soft left MPs don't like Corbyn either.
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    (Original post by EricAteYou)
    He did say that it unions should broker a peace deal within the PLP....

    Regardless, he's still toeing the media/blairite/establishment/lizard people stich up line. We all know that moderate MPs helped orchestrate a coup, but he's finding it hard to accept soft left MPs don't like Corbyn either.
    Hardly that mindblowing.

    I think he's right to query why Blairities planned Corbyns resignation 10 months ago, don't you?

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    Gove to end golden payoffs.

    #Warriors for the disposesed.

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    He is right about NI, the good friday agreement is awful.
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    Gove to end golden payoffs. .
    Does that start with MPs?
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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    Hardly that mindblowing.

    I think he's right to query why Blairities planned Corbyns resignation 10 months ago, don't you?

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    I don't doubt that it was off for the moderates to plan a coup that far in advance.

    It was where he was trying to shift what other MPs ( such as Eagle, Benn … ) have said as part of this unjustifiable stich up. He wouldn't accept it was turning into more of a cross-party problem.
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    I wonder how many of these anti democracy marchers want to get rid of the welah assembly, after all, it had a smaller majority and lower turnout

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    Should they not have consulted the membership, or have the leadership also given up on democracy?

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    Should they not have consulted the membership, or have the leadership also given up on democracy?

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    Are you sure there hasn't been a CLP meeting?
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Are you sure there hasn't been a CLP meeting?
    Given that one of my friends from uni is part of the CLP in question and neither he, nor any of the people who commented on the post that are also part of it, heard anything about it, I think it's fair to say the membership was not consulted.

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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Gove to end golden payoffs.

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    He is right about NI, the good friday agreement is awful.
    It prevented civil war, how exactly did it fail? It didn't annihilate republicanism?

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    (Original post by EricAteYou)
    I don't doubt that it was off for the moderates to plan a coup that far in advance.

    It was where he was trying to shift what other MPs ( such as Eagle, Benn … ) have said as part of this unjustifiable stich up. He wouldn't accept it was turning into more of a cross-party problem.
    You mean like how Eagle has changed her mind? Corbyn came out and offered terms for anyone who undermined him, that's more than can be said for the PLP members writing for the Sun, inventing things to be offended about and blaming global warming on Corbyn.

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    Should they not have consulted the membership, or have the leadership also given up on democracy?

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    Labour party members back leader

    What a shock.

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    It prevented civil war, how exactly did it fail? It didn't annihilate republicanism?

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    I never said it failed, i just think we paid too high a price.
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    Labour party members back leader

    What a shock.

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    Except when they don't?
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    It's the wrong time now but success in cabinet permitting i strongly suspect that Crabb will be leader within a decade. He looks and sound pretty impressive.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
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    Should they not have consulted the membership, or have the leadership also given up on democracy?

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    They did nominated him in the leadership election, there might not have been a meeting, the tweet, obviously, doesn't contain everything that is said, could be they simply mentioned that they had backed him back then.
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