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We have better things to do, like watch Jeremy Kyle.
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Because religion is a load of old ******** devised to terrify the masses into submission and brainwash the elite into thinking they are doing them a favour.
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They no longer find it appropriate to subscribe to children's stories.
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(Original post by DannyBoy123)
Because religion is a load of old ******** devised to terrify the masses into submission and brainwash the elite into thinking they are doing them a favour.
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(Original post by AfroNathan)
I'd say because it's not taught in school any more because we're more of a multi cultural society now.
Now? We started being a multicultural society since the Romans and Anglosaxons invaded us. Always wondered nationalists stating Christianity as an ingredient of British culture since it's misguided. Bring back the druids. :ninja:
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Because in the west today, it's all about "just DO it, GO for it, go GET it". People know if they are going to accept a religion, they will have to change their life. They don't want to do that, they don't want to give up things that go against the religion. So that's why they run away from religion!
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(Original post by Aphotic Cosmos)
I think we don't take religion, or for that matter politics, particularly seriously here because we're a much older nation. As with France, Spain, Germany, Italy, The Netherlands, etc. - the organs of our state and religion are centuries old and are viewed as archaic, so we simply don't pay attention and view them as ripe targets for satire. On top of that, neither religion nor our political system are taught as being particularly important, even within faith schools, in our education system or our communities.

On top of that, we've got a much broader mix of political views in Europe - instead of being concentrated around the centre you'll find plenty of communists, green parties, socialists. These parties place a lot less emphasis on the idea of a nuclear god-fearing family than the centre-right American parties do.
Ummm...Germany is much younger than the USA.
You are perhaps thinking of the Germanies, which were a collection of states that were allied, at war with each other, went their own way etc. Not a country.
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A sorry bunch of good-for-nothing godless sons of *****es.

That is all I have to say.
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I don't think you entirely understand the scientific method.

At least scientists accept that we don't know everything. That doesn't give people an excuse to fill in the gaps with whatever fairy-tales they like.
I understand the scientific method. I just don't hold with scientists that believe in the theories they were taught and cannot accept anything else because it violates their beliefs.
Our scientific understanding is always increasing, what was accepted doctrine 100 years ago isn't accepted doctrine today in science.
We have new fields of study, new ways of doing things, we've even lost a planet (Pluto) that was taught as being one of the planets not so long ago.
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I understand the scientific method. I just don't hold with scientists that believe in the theories they were taught and cannot accept anything else because it violates their beliefs.
Our scientific understanding is always increasing, what was accepted doctrine 100 years ago isn't accepted doctrine today in science.
We have new fields of study, new ways of doing things, we've even lost a planet (Pluto) that was taught as being one of the planets not so long ago.
Are you waiting for the GOD molecule, you pervert?
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(Original post by Vivisteiner)
Funny you should mention Galileo. After all, he was persecuted by the Church. There's a difference between scientific debates and banning people from doing science.
He disagreed with a guy named Aristotle as I recall. Big no-no for his time.
Funny really, in some of the arts subjects these days a lot of emphasis is placed on academic sources. Quote some big names in the field of whatever subject to back up an argument. Aristotle at the time of Galileo was a well established source. Rather like Galen was in medicine.

Going against the established belief based on some well respected source was and still is a way to get people annoyed at you.
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Actually, no.

Science has a rigorously constructed methodology which is specifically designed to AVOID the need for any form of belief system.

If you like, you could say that the scientific method is what you are left with when you ruthlessly strip any preconceived "beliefs" out of a system.

(This isn't to say that it always works perfectly in practice)

Ask a scientist what happens when you break a scientific law.
Most will tell you it cannot be done. Not in any way, shape or form. Their belief system, based on what they have learnt and what they have observed.
The smart ones will temper that with 'as far as we know'. Which at least acknowledges that there are things still to discover.

A scientist without a belief system will accept results that don't meet expectations. Scientists have been wrong in the past and will be wrong in the future. I would expect them to continue to increase understanding of science, new fields, new discoveries, new (or old) theories that become proven and so on.

If you want a modern day issue in which belief seems to play a part, look at the disagreements over global warming. Rhetoric, ideology, maybe simply too many specialists and not enough generalists around.
What currently looks like opposing arguments might turn out to be opposing arguments. Or perhaps not so opposing as the participants expect.
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because people have woken up and believe religion is a crock of ***** (i hope)
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Are you waiting for the GOD molecule, you pervert?
Is there one? Or do you know for certain there isn't one?
Does your belief system in or against a particular molecule come into it?
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(Original post by mart2306)
I understand the scientific method. I just don't hold with scientists that believe in the theories they were taught and cannot accept anything else because it violates their beliefs.
Our scientific understanding is always increasing, what was accepted doctrine 100 years ago isn't accepted doctrine today in science.
We have new fields of study, new ways of doing things, we've even lost a planet (Pluto) that was taught as being one of the planets not so long ago.
It's not a case of belief.

Scientific theory A tells us that a certain cause produces a certain effect.
This theory is used for hundreds of years and not one experiment produces any data which suggest it might not be correct.
Random person B says "oh no, it doesn't work at all. It's wrong."
Scientific community go "O RLY? :zomg: Well if that's what you think, prove it. " enthusiastically.
Random person B utterly fails to demonstrate anything.
Scientific theory A lives to fight another day.
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Personally, I think it's a very good thing the the UK is not very religious.
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because we are educated, most developed countries are losing religion, rightly so - its a throwback to a time where people didnt have science. Fairy tales have no place in a developed country
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The UK doesn't appear religious because we understand the value of a secular society. Of course anyone can believe whatever they want, but they're not to go and tell somebody else how to live their life because of that belief, we (most of us) understand how selfish and arrogant that is. We instinctively understand, I think, that we have to respect others and get along with them, and that religion is naturally counter to this: a divisive force. I mean how could it not be if you think the other guy will burn in hell forever? We can't take that seriously...
I think we might take relativism too far sometimes. Government funding for creationist societies in schools for example. If somebody went round telling me or my family that god created everything as it is, 6000 years ago, I'd say say look mate, take the tin foil off your head, open a science book and go home, right now. You're wrong. Nicest thing to do for them. Thats very far from attacvking their religion. That's like correcting them on what time their plane leaves or something.
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A massive sigh at "because we're an old country, and we're smarter and know better!"

Really? You think that because you're an "old country" that every one of you is somehow smarter than the rest of the world?


A little news flash for you. There have been plenty of smart religious people throughout time, and to think that your lack of faith puts you on some sort of higher level than the "ignorant masses" who have that ridiculous idea that maybe they have a higher purpose in life makes you incredibly self-righteous and arrogant.

If anyone would bother to actually think about the cause of decline of religion in Britain and Europe, they would look to the many years of schisms and disputes that have taken place within Christianity, as well as it being a natural reaction to having religion forced down the throats of Europeans for a millenium and a half. That is the true cause of the drift away from Christianity - not because white Europeans are magically smarter than the rest of the world.
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Because were not all brainwashed retards that can't see how stupid religion is. Unfortunately with the increased advertisement of scams like the alpha course I'm afraid that's going to start changing
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