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    (Original post by Texan88)
    Awesome I'm in Euless currently until I move into the dorms in a couple or so semesters not quite sure yet. What uni are you going to?
    I'm applying next year.
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    (Original post by A short guy)
    You have to say that every morning!? it sounds more like something your prime minister would say when he gets elected
    We, including the Prime Minister are all subjects of the Queen. Unlike the President, the Prime Minister is just another bloke like the rest of us who has a seat in parliament.
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    (Original post by Collingwood)
    A nazi is a national socialist. Bellamy is chiefly regarded as a socialist today, but he himself called the ideology Nationalism, and it envisioned full nationalisation of the economy, industrial conscription and the replacement of common law trials and juries with state boards. He was not anti-semitic, but his ideology was substantively fascist.
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    (Original post by Vodkaslur)
    Why do you feel the need to comment on everything I say Mick.W ?

    Go away ...
    not everything. most of what you post isn’t worth commenting on anyway. you know the type, those inbred, rural, sheep/labrador type blondes whos communication is a splurge of toffee and queen-arse licking.
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    (Original post by Mick.w)
    not everything. most of what you post isn’t worth commenting on anyway. you know the type, those inbred, rural, sheep/labrador type blondes whos communication is a splurge of toffee and queen-arse licking.

    So you're now looking at everything I comment?

    And you shouldn't call your mum a dog it's not very nice?
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    (Original post by Vodkaslur)
    So you're now looking at everything I comment?

    And you shouldn't call your mum a dog it's not very nice?
    No but judgeing from the posts i have seen i made that judgement

    a female dog is a ***** actully and i was talking about you.
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    At my elementary school we had to recite it every morning and afternoon. As 1st graders we had no idea what it meant, only that we had to do it. I remember one kid refusing and he was sent to the principles office. Although (I think) you do have the right to refuse its really looked down upon not to. There was a 10 year old in Arkansas somewhat recently who was refusing to pledge allegance until there was "liberty and justice for all", i.e. when gay people had equal rights, and loads of people were up in arms about it calling his parents bad parents, etc.

    We also had flag bearers and kids who would say it over the tannoys each morning/afternoon, once a kid nearly dropped the American flag and he got in a lot of trouble for it. My brother refused to to do the pledge in middle school and he was given a few weekend detentions for it, he was also suspended for wearing a tshirt with Bart Simpson on it. The Texas school system is crazy.
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    The only oath Ive sworn was in the ATC:
    I Corporal *NAME*, hereby solemnly promise on my honour to serve my Unit loyally and to be faithful to my obligations as a member of the Air Training Corps. I further promise to be a good citizen and to do my duty to God and the Queen, my Country and my Flag.
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    (Original post by A short guy)
    Your not allowed to refuse you can refuse to say under god if your not religious but no one does
    I went to school in the states, where we had each morning a different student leading the pledge over the school tv network (how cool that they had a tv network). Anyway, if I remember correctly (I was 10 at the time) I had no option but to lead the school at it, despite being a British citizen and despite my objections. Needless to say, my mum was disgusted. In class when we all rose I just stood there and didn't say anything
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    (Original post by A short guy)
    Every morning before the announcements start at school we have to stand up face the flag put our hand on our heart and say the pledge of allegiance.

    I pledge allegiance
    to the flag
    Of the United States of America
    and to the republic
    for which it stands
    one nation
    under god
    indivisible
    with liberty and justice for all

    Ive had to do this ever since I started school and I was wondering does the Uk do this to?
    That's called indoctrination.
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    (Original post by Vodkaslur)
    Why would you refuse?
    You're part of this country, no ??
    Because being part of a country doesnt require you to pledge allegiance to a flag?

    Its just one of the many overly-patriotic things people do in other countries that I am glad we dont :p:
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    In Illinois, the pledge is recited daily in any school that is supported by the state (even schools that are only partly supported), but there is no mandate that pupils have to recite it and there is no penalty for not doing so.

    I have lived in the US for the last five years (was born in Britain and lived there for the first 13 years of my life), and although I have dual UK-US citizenship (I have an American mom), I am British. Therefore I never say the pledge, but I do stand up during it, as a mark of respect.
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    (Original post by A short guy)
    Every morning before the announcements start at school we have to stand up face the flag put our hand on our heart and say the pledge of allegiance.

    I pledge allegiance
    to the flag
    Of the United States of America
    and to the republic
    for which it stands
    one nation
    under god
    indivisible
    with liberty and justice for all

    Ive had to do this ever since I started school and I was wondering does the Uk do this to?
    Ugh, I remember having to do this nonsense every morning in middle and high school.
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    Apparently I'm a troll for having to recite the pledge of allegiance. Shame the neg was neutral :top:
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    I would flat out refuse to. No-one is making me saying nonsense like that.
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    (Original post by A short guy)
    Every morning before the announcements start at school we have to stand up face the flag put our hand on our heart and say the pledge of allegiance.

    I pledge allegiance
    to the flag
    Of the United States of America
    and to the republic
    for which it stands
    one nation
    under god
    indivisible
    with liberty and justice for all

    Ive had to do this ever since I started school and I was wondering does the Uk do this to?
    Do all schools have to do it? :mmm:


    We'd never have anything like that here. That's like some kind of indoctrination...

    I'd like to think we're more freely thinking here.
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    (Original post by Tut.exe)
    part of your rights and your freedom is taking responsibility or did you not get taught in school about this? Well, I was in a crap school back in the philippines compared to the 'high class' education here in Britain but I definitely remember that for every right you have, you have a responsibility over it... **** i was in a 3rd world getting taught about this.
    That's a political belief, not some sort of all-encompassing truth. Indeed, the very nature of rights is that they can be exercised stupidly, irresponsibly or whatever else. Claiming that you have a 'right' to do something does both more and less than suggest it is somehow 'good' - it makes no comment on its morality or reasonableness, but claims that you are absolutely entitled to make that judgement and to do whatever the right concerns regardless.

    Edit: Ah, I see someone else picked you up on this first, albeit from a rather different angle.
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    I've never taken a pledge like that-I think its sort of understood that I have allegiance to this country....

    That said I wouldn't be able to pledge allegiance to the Queen and say the god bit anyways.
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    (Original post by WharfedaleTiger)
    I've never taken a pledge like that-I think its sort of understood that I have allegiance to this country....

    That said I wouldn't be able to pledge allegiance to the Queen and say the god bit anyways.
    Nothing about your quote but as a prospective Nottingam student myself and Conservative supporter .. your sig really saddens me
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    "I, NAME, swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God"

    The MPs are doing it in parliament right now.
 
 
 
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