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ForeverIsMyName
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Ataturk was a Freemason.

http://thcforum.ning.com/profiles/bl...xperiment-with
Where does it say that?
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(Original post by ForeverIsMyName)
And you claim that other people are anti-historian?????!

Do you know anything about the author you just quoted?



Quote the relevant source? All I see are articles about secularism?



Evidence the military staff were freemasons?



So?
What about the author I quoted? I claim that other people are anti-historian. Yes. Zarcone is an historian and he posited that the period from 1908 to 1918 could be called “The Masonic State” and explains that The Union and Progress Party in power used freemasonry in its foreign relations. This is fact. Paul Dumont also writes about the Freemasons in the Ottoman Empire, including a host of other experts:

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/book-CRFF-01.html
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What about the author I quoted?
Well, he has no academic backing whatsoever, is an anti-evolutionist, and I believe has spent more time in jail for being a coke fiend than spent dedicating himself to any academic pursuit.

I claim that other people are anti-historian. Yes. Zarcone is an historian and he posited that the period from 1908 to 1918 could be called “The Masonic State” and explains that The Union and Progress Party in power used freemasonry in its foreign relations. This is fact. Paul Dumont also writes about the Freemasons in the Ottoman Empire, including a host of other experts:

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/book-CRFF-01.html
Could you address my points please? I'm struggling to see what you are arguing for/about.
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(Original post by ForeverIsMyName)
Where does it say that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O1MwQMCWMM
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Why do some people respond so unreasonably aggressive when someone mentions a conspiracy theory?
Because they usually, as Martyn's posts always do, combine dodgy sources with wild extrapolations from history, confused reasoning, and tenuous explanations. That's why people get annoyed at this crap.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O1MwQMCWMM
Academic source, you arse, or at least a quote. Come on.
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