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George Bush supported Turkey Membership and to me he a non-conservative so pretty right
Both Obama and Bush Supported Turkish membership
Turkey is not a enemy nation ? they are part of NATO ffs, they have good ties with isreal until isreal killed 9 Turks and then did not apologize


I do think that turkey should not be given free movement of Labour

The EU economy struggles to grow whilst Turkey grows at 11%

I am glad Cameron has some brains but he wasted time by going to India, he should wait at least 10 years to see if India gets anywhere near what China was 20 years ago

Britain needs a new foreign policy the Americans are trying to force Britain into Federal Europe by breaking the 'special relationship'
Let me say in advance that I'm fine with Turkey joining the EU but not because of this ridicilous reason.

Turkey grows at 11% because it is a developing country. It's GDP per capita is what? $12,000? $13,000 tops? developed
countries grow at a much slower rate even under booms because, guess what, they already are developed.
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Until Turkey has the ability to admit and accept the genocide committed by the Turkish government in 1915 against the Armenians, which they haven't yet, notes that these barbarians do not deserve a place in the EU.
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its still right wing my point being this is not David Cameron being a softie and being too politically correct but a good move
He is being very politically correct, left-liberal, and non-conservative, like always.
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Considering Mr. Cameron is obviously lacking in historical knowledge and understanding (in light of his view that the UK was a "junior partner" to the U.S. in 1940, before Pearl Harbor and the U.S.'s entrance to WWII) I think most would be happy to inform him of the number of Kurdish villages sacked and destroyed in the Turks' contribution to "defend[ing] Europe as a Nato ally" in the 1990s (given full backing of Clinton and his cronies). Take into account also the numerous Islamists and Muslim fascists who'll be given freedom of movement within all of the EU's borders. Cameron's naivety with regards to Islam in Turkey is also ridiculous.
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About time.

Welcome to the European Union my Turkish friends
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(Original post by Bourgeois)
Let me say in advance that I'm fine with Turkey joining the EU but not because of this ridicilous reason.

Turkey grows at 11% because it is a developing country. It's GDP per capita is what? $12,000? $13,000 tops? developed
countries grow at a much slower rate even under booms because, guess what, they already are developed.

That is a valid point, but Why did David Cameron waste 3 days in India a country with GDP of 2.5 k ? the india trip was a waste of money

Turkey has a lower GDP but a larger population its overall Economy is larger.

If you buy a Business in Turkey , its sales grow by 9%
compared to a business in France which is struggling to sell as much this year as it sold last year

it still worth investing in the Turkish business
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It wont happen. And I can perfectly see why France and Germany wouldnt want it to.
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EU -> MEU = Mostly European Union :lol:
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Despite being 99% Muslim, Turkey is actually a secular state (for example you can't wear a Hijab in a public institution like a University). Having said that the opposite parties in government are conservatively Muslim. Accepting Turkey into the EU is seen as a validation of that current secular state before the country aligns itself with its Arab neighbours. It could go either way - to the West or East.

Turkey and Egypt are strategically important allies to the West but their governments need political reinforcement to survive.
That's not a secular value.
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That is a valid point, but Why did David Cameron waste 3 days in India a country with GDP of 2.5 k ? the india trip was a waste of money

Turkey has a lower GDP but a larger population its overall Economy is larger.

If you buy a Business in Turkey , its sales grow by 9%
compared to a business in France which is struggling to sell as much this year as it sold last year

it still worth investing in the Turkish business
I don't doubt that Turkey is a good place to invest right now. But that's not saying much about whether or not the EU should accept it in it's ranks (although I said I think it should perhaps not right now though). And Turkey having a large population has nothing to do with it's GDP per capita. America has 5 times the population of Turkey and yet it also has 4 times the GDP per capita of Turkey.
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(Original post by Suetonius)
Considering Mr. Cameron is obviously lacking in historical knowledge and understanding (in light of his view that the UK was a "junior partner" to the U.S. in 1940, before Pearl Harbor and the U.S.'s entrance to WWII) I think most would be happy to inform him of the number of Kurdish villages sacked and destroyed in the Turks' contribution to "defend[ing] Europe as a Nato ally" in the 1990s (given full backing of Clinton and his cronies). Take into account also the numerous Islamists and Muslim fascists who'll be given freedom of movement within all of the EU's borders. Cameron's naivety with regards to Islam in Turkey is also ridiculous.
The Turkish government is a barbaric government. Its continuous repression of the Kurdish population has belittled the natives and removed their basic human rights; on-top of this, the denial of the Armenian genocide.
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Well remember that it took the UK decades before all EU veto-holders backed off and let Britain join in the fun. Britain faced objection after objection, and then France blocked for the country for something like 13 years.

What makes you so sure that all EU members will never, ever allow Turkey in? :erm:
The amount of votes German parties stand to lose if they let it happen - same in Austria, the whole of Kärnten would go bonkers. I don't know about France, but I do live next to Austria. I sincerely doubt the French feel so passionate about Britain as Germans and Austrians do about Turkey. The Swiss passed a minaret ban by referendum - if it were as easy to get a referendum in Austria, I'm 99% sure it would pass.
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(Original post by Suetonius)
Considering Mr. Cameron is obviously lacking in historical knowledge and understanding (in light of his view that the UK was a "junior partner" to the U.S. in 1940, before Pearl Harbor and the U.S.'s entrance to WWII) I think most would be happy to inform him of the number of Kurdish villages sacked and destroyed in the Turks' contribution to "defend[ing] Europe as a Nato ally" in the 1990s (given full backing of Clinton and his cronies). Take into account also the numerous Islamists and Muslim fascists who'll be given freedom of movement within all of the EU's borders. Cameron's naivety with regards to Islam in Turkey is also ridiculous.
He was actually (unintentionally) right for once.
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For the sake of Turkey's dignity I sincerely hope Mr Erodgan really examines his political aspirations and end this incessant sucking up to Europe. Real work must be done, to fully Islamize Turkey once again, and the IOC must enter into serious discussions regarding the re-establishment of the Caliphate.This can only be done of course through the purge of every single socialist dictator and "Emir" there is in the middle east and the wider Islamic world.
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For the sake of Turkey's dignity I sincerely hope Mr Erodgan really examines his political aspirations and end this incessant sucking up to Europe. Real work must be done, to fully Islamize Turkey once again, and the IOC must enter into serious discussions regarding the re-establishment of the Caliphate.This can only be done of course through the purge of every single socialist dictator and "Emir" there is in the middle east and the wider Islamic world.
At least this post confirms that you are a shameless Islamist.
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For the sake of Turkey's dignity I sincerely hope Mr Erodgan really examines his political aspirations and end this incessant sucking up to Europe. Real work must be done, to fully Islamize Turkey once again, and the IOC must enter into serious discussions regarding the re-establishment of the Caliphate.This can only be done of course through the purge of every single socialist dictator and "Emir" there is in the middle east and the wider Islamic world.
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At least this post confirms that you are a shameless Islamist.
Better than a shameless racist xenophobe bigot, Thatcherite :rolleyes:
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:facepalm:
What do you mean by that?
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What do you mean by that?
there was no need in posting that in this forum, all you will get is troll replies from wannabe internet hardmen.
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Better than a shameless racist xenophobe bigot, Thatcherite :rolleyes:
Racist? Prove it. And I am talking about real racism, not under your inflated definition that probably includes criticising the ideology you subscribe to. Xenophobe? Not really, only to tin pot dictatorships. Bigot? Yes, I am very intolerant of Islamists like you.
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