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    (Original post by JMG89)
    The government has announced £83bn of cuts yes? It has increased some taxes to raise the rest of the money, yes? This is all occuring over 5 years as they are saying they want to eradicate the deficit by the next election. it is £25bn a year so 5*25 is £125bn. which is more than the £83bn in cuts.

    The tax doesn't magically appear, the government puts laws in place to make it happen, the UK is a massive market, how many companies will just leave?
    Ah ok, I thought you were suggesting that was the only measure they needed to take. But the deficit is £178bn per year.

    But I disagree, I think plenty of companies might leave. We've already seen with the 50p tax rate that trying to raise tax revenues can be counter-productive. Granted, thats income tax, but I think the same principle applies here. And there are bigger markets elsewhere.

    And yeah, £83bn in cuts and £29bn in tax rises is to remove the structural deficit, and economic growth is expected to cover the fiscal deficit. But I think this is how much they will be saving per year by then, as the deficit also is a per year thing, so the extra tax wouldn't actually pay for it.

    I agree absolutely that tax evasion, and tax avoidance, need to be combated, but I think £25bn is an over-optimisitic estimate, and some care is required so as not to cause companies to relocate, or to discourage companies from coming over in the first place.
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    (Original post by JMG89)
    The government has announced £83bn of cuts yes? It has increased some taxes to raise the rest of the money, yes? This is all occuring over 5 years as they are saying they want to eradicate the deficit by the next election. it is £25bn a year so 5*25 is £125bn. which is more than the £83bn in cuts.

    The tax doesn't magically appear, the government puts laws in place to make it happen, the UK is a massive market, how many companies will just leave?


    Debt is a stock, deficit is a flow. You magically reclaim that £25bn, you reduce the flow by £25bn.
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    Posting to bring this up. Don't forget it's tomorrow, hopefully some more people will post so other are also aware of this.

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    The NUS has said it's been postponed till Jan.

    IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT: LONDON TUITION FEE MARCH POSTPONED UNTIL JANUARY

    The University of London Union Of Students (ULU) and the National Union of Students (NUS) have decided to postpone the date of the planned Tuition Fee March until Sunday January 2nd 2011. The Metropolitan Police and Camden Borough Council raised concerns about th...e safety of the protest and it has been decided by mutual agreement that it will now be held on January 2nd.

    Massive apologies to of you who made arrangements to attend today. Thank you for your support and PLEASE stay posted as we're planning to hold an even bigger demonstration outside Parliament in the New Year.

    Hannah,
    National Union of Students Protest Sub-Organiser

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    (Original post by RedGunner)
    The NUS has said it's been postponed till Jan.
    I don't think anyone told the 1000's of students in london about this, check out BBC news.
    I wish I could be in London today, who's going? anyone there already?
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    Lets say at the most there is going to be 30k of students. Its not enough. The students have no politcial support, their public support is fast draning away and even the NUS has been shown to have asked the government to cut grants and loans massively.

    I agree with the fee rise but even so I can't help but feel sorry for those students out there it seems everyone is trying to screw them over from the NUS to the government
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    anyone listening to the live debate? Denham is putting in a convincing argument.
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    Big Up All The Welsh Students Protesting In Cardiff & Swansea To Help English Students Get The Same Treatment !!!
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    (Original post by Cardiff Kook)
    anyone listening to the live debate? Denham is putting in a convincing argument.
    Where can you listen to it?

    Found it!

    Its all political scoring meeehnn
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    lol do you people realise you are in effect siding with the BNP?
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    (Original post by SpiritedAway)
    I have an exam then
    same. it's too bad, i wanted to go. if i don't get an offer for medicine this year, i'm most probably going to do biomedical science then graduate entry medicine. so i'll be paying for two degrees, including the new, much higher, fees for medicine.
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    wtf are they throwing at the police? paint bombs... It's been interesting but the police lines' are too re-inforced by the houses of parliament itself for the students to really go anywhere

    They're using horses as well now, must be like a last resort
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    (Original post by Broderss)
    lol do you people realise you are in effect siding with the BNP?
    The Scottish socialist party support free higher education!
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    (Original post by Left Hand Drive)
    The Scottish socialist party support free higher education!
    Who cares? Scots get free education thanks to England anyway.
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    (Original post by Broderss)
    Who cares? Scots get free education thanks to England anyway.
    Yeah ok go troll somewhere else
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    (Original post by Left Hand Drive)
    Yeah ok go troll somewhere else
    no it's true go look it up. the same for wales too.
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    (Original post by Broderss)
    no it's true go look it up. the same for wales too.
    You made the arguement now its your job to back it up with evidence
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    (Original post by Left Hand Drive)
    You made the arguement now its your job to back it up with evidence
    http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...0100652AAA3OdQ

    check and mate
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    Descending into mindles violence an charges now.... don't see the point

    It's sick that police have been indiscriminately attacking, beating people over the head, people on the floor etc with batons, disgusting. Police should DEFEND themselves, think logically and intelligently police. Randomly attacking any protestor in a crowd with a baton?

    DO you want to piss them off, enrage the crowd and stir more violence? seriously
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    Here's how the Italian police deal with law breakers at protests!



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