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    (Original post by SaturnVengeance)
    There has been much debate on whether or not stem cell research should be made permanently illegal. In other words, stem cell research would never exist in America. I believe it shouldn't be, because it opens the door for research, including research towards finding a cure for several diseases. In fact, I read an article the other day in which they found a cure for HIV thanks to stem cell research, I don't have a link to the article though. What are your thoughts on stem cell research?
    theres a lot more debate about the use of embryos rather than stem cells per se. I see no problem with the embryos, though i can understand why others do, but can't think of any good arguments against simply stem cell research.

    stem cells are just easily found in embryos, but there are other sources (of stem cells of varying usefulness at least).

    not 100% sure about your HIV claim they do offer a lot of potential though! and assuming you mean 'should'...
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    (Original post by HarryA)
    Erm. Seriously, just stop talking unless you do a ton of research.

    Embryonic stem cells are pluripotent - they have the potential to become an unlimited number of cells.
    Fail at being an ass... that is not the definition of pluripotent, its potentially skewed version of totipotent, but even then it doesn't quite fit the bill. Do your research

    Though i do agree with the rest of what you said
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    (Original post by de_monies)
    The only argument against it would be an argument similar for arguments against cloning ie: superior body parts may be made for soldiers and the like, so stem cells would lead to more killings in war(I don't know if that's possible before any one slates me. I haven't researched much about it)
    I'm not sure that this is the main, or a particularly realistic argument against cloning or stem cells...
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    No, no, no. Absolutely not. I think it would be immoral to ban embryonic stem cell research. They have incredible beneficial potential, much more so than adult stem cells. Both sources of stem cells should be researched.
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    yes lets abandon research that could potentiall save millions of lives every year.
    What ****ing kind of question is this.

    What kind of society are we living in, this is the ****ing 21st century - why do matters of religion have to take place in science?

    I'm sure any religious person who is suffering a crippling disease would rather accept stem cells in the form of the specialised cell they require - instead of dying.
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    Science should never be stopped because of moral reasons.
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    (Original post by Made in the USA)
    Some athiest republicans, such as myself, are against it because we don't think it should be federally funded. Fund it with private sector dollars, but don't tax me to fund it, I am taxed enough already. Not everything comes down to the bible :rolleyes:
    In America, most of the time, it does.
    And anyway, stem cell therapy with the most potential is embryonic. The higherups may allow somatic cell collection but most of the are staunchly against embryonic stem cell research on the basis of religious and moral grounds. Stem cell research is already being federally funded in the USA, but it is for adult and cord cells. Surely, some of the funds could be used for embryonic stem cell research.
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    (Original post by HarryA)
    Erm. Seriously, just stop talking unless you do a ton of research. There are several different types of stem cells, the main two being adult stem cells and embryonic stem cells. Adult stem cells come from organs, while embryonic stem cells (usually) come from embryos which are donated from IVF clinics who no longer require the embryo.

    That is the major difference, the major moral difference is here. By extracting embryonic stems cells from an embryo, the embryo is destroyed. Adult stem cells have been used for years and there is no moral issue. The only issue is with embryonic stem cells: opponents of argue that all embryos can become a human, ergo it's morally wrong to experiment on them.

    Adult stem cells have cured quite a few problems with people over years of research. Embryonic stem cells have not been fully tested on humans because there is concern about the cells causing cancer and other diseases to the host. The Californian research company, Geron Corporation, is the first to do a clinical test on humans (spinal cord injury patients) after a relatively successful test on rats and approval by the US Food and Drug Administration.

    Why don't we just use adult stems cells (because embryos aren't destroyed and everyone is happy)? Well, they are multipotent - they can only change into a limited number of cells. Embryonic stem cells are pluripotent - they have the potential to become an unlimited number of cells.

    I suggest you research embryonic stem cells, the embryo that it comes from, what happens and what would have happened to that embryo had it not been used for research.
    Yes. Your summary is bang on
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    I don't agree that stem cell research should be stopped, it is of fundamental importance to medical science in the current era.

    However I think that lots of the debate is concerning human embryonic stem cells (HESCs) rather than adult stem cells, which religious authorities have considerably less trouble with. The argument put forward by the church is that HESCs have the potential for life, and by using and destroying zygotes in research, we are effectively snuffing out a 'life'. We must consider the fact that in fertility treatments, such as IVF, a number of zygotes are required yet only one is actually used. The other zygotes could be discarded, so there is immediately an imperative to put them to better use through research.
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    Are you stupid? you people who are saying this is down to religious dogma!! the stem cell research is an ethical issue. HarryA has posted a concise summary on page 1 of this thread, read it. The deontological viewpoint is that every human has a right to duty of care. The embryo is a 'human' and thus it has rights in which taking stem cells would fail in its duty of care. The opposing utilitarian viewpoint is that if the benefits outweigh the harms then it is not ethically wrong. Since the benefits of stem cell through embryonic means on a wider scale is beneficial, it is not wrong - where the deontologists dispute that in the process scientists are failing a duty of care to the individuals. These ethical issues are governed by the World Medical Association and the Nuremberg Code.
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    (Original post by WhatamIdoing)
    In America, most of the time, it does.
    And anyway, stem cell therapy with the most potential is embryonic. The higherups may allow somatic cell collection but most of the are staunchly against embryonic stem cell research on the basis of religious and moral grounds. Stem cell research is already being federally funded in the USA, but it is for adult and cord cells. Surely, some of the funds could be used for embryonic stem cell research.
    Actually the stem cell research with the most potential are adult stem cells. There have actually been several scientific breakthroughs with adult stem cells. Embryonic stem cell research has been a huge black hole for years with NOT ONE noteworthy cure for anything after years and billions of research thrown at it. If embryonic stem cell research is so promising, how come private companies aren't interested in spending one single penny on funding it's research? It always has to be government funded because it's a huge and pointless waste of money, that's why.
 
 
 
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