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    people like to have fun and do stupid things when theyre young...they have less responcibilities, less pressure, less blah...
    its the best time to do stupid stuff so that you can get it out of your system before you become an adult...

    yes some people might take it a bit too far, but not everyone knows when to stop...

    calm your cheese....
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    You drink because it makes you feel awesome.
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    (Original post by Fallen)
    1. Nobody forces you to get drunk, and if someone physically put a pipe down your throat and poured in alcohol forcibly I recommend you contact the police. There are plenty of people at every university who go through freshers without getting drunk, or even touching alcohol. Most Muslims, for instance, who are forbidden from drinking, but also plenty of other people.

    Of course, peer pressure can be such that it feels like being forced at times. I don't drink; when you're not especially confident anyway and you see how easily people interact when drinking the pressure on you is substantial. Of course nobody ever forces alcohol down your throat, but we hardly ignore everything that our significant others (i.e. peers) are doing either, do we?

    2. To fit in with the crowd of party animals you probably do need to get drunk. To fit in with anyone else there is no such requirement. Mixing with the wrong crowd. A lot of my friends enjoy a good night out clubbing, and plenty don't.

    This is true. But most people I know do drink and do get drunk. They're my friends, and I don't say this in a negative way. But, on a night out, the only people who don't drink to excess are those who are driving or those who have work the next morning (and even the latter do occasionally.) It's not the case that a group of 'party animals' are the only people who drink to excess.
    3. Some people do find getting drunk fun, why is it any of your business that they find it fun, and who are you to judge that shows a "lack of imagination"?

    This. I don't drink, and I can't comprehend how it's 'fun' despite whatever anyone says about 'feeling awesome' and a 'lack of inhibition', but what the hell, they can do what they want so long as they accept that I don't drink. If you're honest though, it does betray a lack of imagination. Only on a couple of occasions have my peer group 'mixed it up' and done something different like a picnic, cycle ride, etc. Usually on a Friday or Saturday, the evening does centre around drinking. Sure, I shouldn't be not judging, but please don't suggest that I can't have the opinion that it shows a lack of imagination.

    It seems like you spent too much time moaning about how everyone only gets drunk all the time, possibly because you have just moved into halls and your whole corridor is made up of those kind of people, but haven't put in any effort in meeting people with interests more similar to yours.
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    i dont no about everyone else but i go out enjoy my self, but i dont drink and i seem to have more of a fun time than these depressed alcohol needing people.
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    (Original post by TheBritishBloke)
    Yeah, because all Islamic nations are completely efficient and lawful :rolleyes:
    Are they following the laws completely and properly? do you know?
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    Because I can be in a paralytic state on a Sunday night, but still have enough neuronal connections to finish off my essay on a Monday evening.

    When you are young, you can afford to make many mistakes and have enough time to correct them. When you are 35, bald, married to a woman who doesn't give it up to you and you are living off kebabs and microwave meals, drinking won't be as fun anymore.
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    (Original post by JCC-MGS)
    You sound bitter tbh, don't get invited anywhere?
    Lol, this.
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    (Original post by Moh.1)
    Are they following the laws completely and properly? do you know?
    Well, your argument is now completely flawed... Considering no Islamic nation follows the laws "completely and properly"; it's not going to be any different here is it.
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    (Original post by pencilcasetapper)
    I am sick to death of people claiming how amazing their lives are because they go out every week on a Friday and a Saturday, drinking to death, ending up intoxicated on the road and generally being a nuisance?

    It seems that for the majority of young people, their lives consists of just socialising, getting drunk, doing drugs and acting like a **** on the streets.

    Do people not care about the future consequences of their actions?

    I am not saying that alcohol is bad, but I disagree with getting drunk in order to get drunk. It seems people have nothing better with their lives to do.

    This argument that we only live once, and we should make the most out of today, and we're young, and it's only a bit of fun is complete bull****.
    It's the same reason that 'growing up' is used as a reason for not doing these things anymore. If someone said to you 'yeah I used to do that but I grew up' that would sound plausible wouldn't it? Is that not just the same thing flipped the other way round?
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    (Original post by pencilcasetapper)
    Wouldn't want to go anyways.
    That is what you tell yourself to make yourself feel better. Defense mechanism 101.
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    (Original post by TheBritishBloke)
    Well, your argument is now completely flawed... Considering no Islamic nation follows the laws "completely and properly"; it's not going to be any different here is it.
    I may not have evidence to show in today's times, but it doesnt mean its flawed. For a person who has studied it well they will be convinced that it is what we need.
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    Because a young person's brain isn't fully developed, they/we don't quite have the full ability to make decisions.
    Also stupidity is more excusable for a naive youngster with a lack of experiences.
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    young people get drunk as they dont want to think about the 'real questions', they dont find happiness in helping the weak, poor or elderly. they do not allow their money to become dignified by giving to the destitute. instead they think who cares about this that and this, lets blame the government, we have rights (but not the right to respect those rights), its ok to have a laugh without thinking of the bigger picture or they feel no value in their lives...... and if not any of the reasons i have mentioned it is to put on this face that everything is 'good'.


    honestly

    ps, nothing wrong with drinking but the getting drunk culture is a vice and an illness


    i also dont believe in faries, monsters and flying pigs, but i believe the second one feels that they have enough to spoil themselves and add more badnnes to an already unhealthy earth, then such as person is not a person but an idiot or greedy person.
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    (Original post by honestly)
    young people get drunk as they dont want to think about the 'real questions', they dont find happiness in helping the weak, poor or elderly. they do not allow their money to become dignified by giving to the destitute. instead they think who cares about this that and this, lets blame the government, we have rights (but not the right to respect those rights), its ok to have a laugh without thinking of the bigger picture or they feel no value in their lives...... and if not any of the reasons i have mentioned it is to put on this face that everything is 'good'.
    I agree there is a lot of selfishness amongst young people today. I saw this at uni especially from some of the rich kids, their lives revolved around parties, doing pills, doing coke, and then going on about how they were spending £80-100 on a night out.

    They meander through their degrees in a haze of being high and get a 2:2, and then when they can't get a job they say "yeah thanks Gordon Brown for ruining my future"
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    (Original post by pencilcasetapper)
    Why do people look down on those who do not drink? You are neither inferior nor superior if you do not drink.
    Exactly, but some drinkers would think you are a pussy for not drinking, just like some non-drinkers would think a drinker is stupid and can only have fun if they're drunk.
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    Having a drink is fine, getting drunk is stupid and just doesnt give anyone a good time.
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    (Original post by vitamortis)
    Because I can be in a paralytic state on a Sunday night, but still have enough neuronal connections to finish off my essay on a Monday evening.

    When you are young, you can afford to make many mistakes and have enough time to correct them. When you are 35, bald, married to a woman who doesn't give it up to you and you are living off kebabs and microwave meals, drinking won't be as fun anymore.
    Or in my world, it is not necessary to experience such actions to know that it is wrong. Since when was it compulsory to be part of this absurd youth ritual?
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    (Original post by abc:))
    It's the same reason that 'growing up' is used as a reason for not doing these things anymore. If someone said to you 'yeah I used to do that but I grew up' that would sound plausible wouldn't it? Is that not just the same thing flipped the other way round?
    No it doesn't sound plausible. It sounds ridiculous that age is a justification for certain actions.
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    (Original post by SwingOnTheSpiral88)
    Because a young person's brain isn't fully developed, they/we don't quite have the full ability to make decisions.
    Also stupidity is more excusable for a naive youngster with a lack of experiences.
    How stupid do you have to be to not realise the consequences of excessive drinking and drug overdose?
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    (Original post by honestly)
    young people get drunk as they dont want to think about the 'real questions', they dont find happiness in helping the weak, poor or elderly. they do not allow their money to become dignified by giving to the destitute. instead they think who cares about this that and this, lets blame the government, we have rights (but not the right to respect those rights), its ok to have a laugh without thinking of the bigger picture or they feel no value in their lives...... and if not any of the reasons i have mentioned it is to put on this face that everything is 'good'.
    So instead of facing the reality head on, they shy away from reality and concentrate on their God damn selves? Who's the real weak person here? It seems they use alcohol as an excuse to cover up their petty insecurities about life.
 
 
 
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