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    (Original post by CaptainDudeson)
    Everywhere. A hairless man would look ridiculous and effeminate.
    Why would a hairless man look effeminate? All I can say to everywhere is ouch, have you ever shaved you're pubic hair off?
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    (Original post by victoriajackson)
    mine isn't on my arms, that might be because I shaved them when I was little though haha. I can't even see my peach fuzz, it's only really really short isn't it? and I shave my armpits and legs because I just feel cleaner and I like the feel of smooth legs it makes them look nice in skirts they seem to be brighter. I think armpit hair is horrible, even on men- why do some men not even trim it?! :confused: I just don't feel the need to shave off all my pubic hair it makes me feel like a little girl again and then to have sex with somebody feeling like that is just weird. I don't just let it all grow free I do remove some and I keep the rest short. I don't understand the demand for it to be completely hair free, ingrown hairs are worse in my opinion and they do that because it's a sensitive area and not supposed to be shaved. Have you ever asked a girl what it's like when pubic hair is growing back? Itches like hell- not exactly a place you can scratch in public.
    You answered your own question then :P Mostly people don't shave fully anyway, only the weird few. I trim armpit hair shorter just so it looks neater and less messy. and yes shaving down there itches for us too, especially if you give yourself razor burn But after a while your skin toughens up a bit and you learn to drown it in moisturiser afterwards But I avoid it when I can just because its comfier not to trim or shave when I'm single.
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    (Original post by victoriajackson)
    why is hair manly? :confused: I don't get it. Why do you view it as manly? So you're talking complete body hair removal or just shaving legs and armpits and keeping the rest neat?

    Just curious
    There's no point me trying to rationalise my position because it can easily be countered using straightforward logic. If I say body hair is "manly" you could point out that women grow body hair too, so it's equally as feminine. If I say it's unhygienic you could point out that it doesn't have to be, and you'd be right.

    I just don't like it. I don't know why I just don't.

    No girl should be forced to listen to my opinion of course, but if the majority of guys prefer X girls should at the very least be aware of our preferences.
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    (Original post by victoriajackson)
    Why would a hairless man look effeminate? All I can say to everywhere is ouch, have you ever shaved you're pubic hair off?
    and to this, hairless men don't look feminine. Kai Greene hardly looks like a woman just because he shaves for bodybuilding.
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    (Original post by CodeJack)
    You answered your own question then :P Mostly people don't shave fully anyway, only the weird few. I trim armpit hair shorter just so it looks neater and less messy. and yes shaving down there itches for us too, especially if you give yourself razor burn But after a while your skin toughens up a bit and you learn to drown it in moisturiser afterwards But I avoid it when I can just because its comfier not to trim or shave when I'm single.
    So I'm not weird for not going Brazilian? I've always thought most guys expect hair free all over but I think it's more to do with the age of the person It's nice to know some men keep their armpit hair in check, I still trim and shave when I'm single, I do it for me not for my partner though it's nice when it's appreciated
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    (Original post by CaptainDudeson)
    Because it is most unattractive.
    why?
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    (Original post by victoriajackson)
    Why would a hairless man look effeminate? All I can say to everywhere is ouch, have you ever shaved you're pubic hair off?
    I can't give you a reason, it just does. Leg shaving in particular is extremely odd for men.

    I did once shave my pubic hair and it was one of the most god awful experiences of my life. It was agony for days and I cut my ballsack.

    How about waxing or hair removal cream? I did once use hair removal cream on my gonads actually and it was extremely unpleasant.
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    (Original post by Sammydemon)
    The problem is, what we find attractive and unattractive is subconscious and usually beyond our control. Most of it is natural, some of it is influenced by what we see. I would imagine that the shaven look of a woman is a sign of beauty as hair is seen as a sign of manliness - probably by the subconscious.

    The fact that men see shaven women in media and so on just helps to bring out these realisations, rather than plant them in the first place.
    Well hairlessness is a sign of prepubescence, as women are naturally hairy.
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    (Original post by chefdave)
    There's no point me trying to rationalise my position because it can easily be countered using straightforward logic. If I say body hair is "manly" you could point out that women grow body hair too, so it's equally as feminine. If I say it's unhygienic you could point out that it doesn't have to be, and you'd be right.

    I just don't like it. I don't know why I just don't.

    No girl should be forced to listen to my opinion of course, but if the majority of guys prefer X girls should at the very least be aware of our preferences.
    I'm not trying to argue I just genuinely don't understand it. Yes I understand that but shouldn't guys be aware that your preference is extremely uncomfortable and occasionally painful? Not sure why guys would want their girlfriends to go through that for the sake of a preference Also up to know the general consensus from the guys has been to keep everything in check down there but not shave off completely. I think pornography has done a lot of damage on this front.

    Obviously I'm not saying you're wrong and should change if that's what you prefer then that's up to you and if you find a girlfriend who is willing to do that-even better. I and a lot of girls just don't want to yet we're made to feel insecure/unattractive freaks
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    (Original post by chefdave)
    Age group 18-45.

    They didn't go into the specifics, I think most younger guys especially just prefer girls who tend to take care of themselves.
    Why don't men take care of themselves?
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    (Original post by victoriajackson)
    So I'm not weird for not going Brazilian? I've always thought most guys expect hair free all over but I think it's more to do with the age of the person It's nice to know some men keep their armpit hair in check, I still trim and shave when I'm single, I do it for me not for my partner though it's nice when it's appreciated
    Nah they mostly just prefer the legs and armpit hair gone, I don't know any girl that has all their hair gone.
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    (Original post by LittleMissNoface)
    why?
    Botty hair? Because I like to feel women's botties and a smooth botty feels far better to my hands and face.
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    (Original post by victoriajackson)
    Why did you not like it when you shaved? And I agree with you about trimming and keeping neat and shaving legs and underamrs, I just feel cleaner as well. I don't think I explained my first replies very well, so do you expect your girlfriend to shave it all off or just keep it neat?
    I don't know, I like it better when there is a bit of hair left. And I don't really expect anything, maybe because she does it on her own anyway. But I think if she would not do anything, I would ask her to at least trim a little.
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    (Original post by LittleMissNoface)
    Well hairlessness is a sign of prepubescence, as women are naturally hairy.
    Subconsciously, youthful aspects of a woman's looks are attractive to men. What can you do?
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    (Original post by LittleMissNoface)
    Okay okay.
    So from what I know (which may wrong) women started to shave when clothes got shorter, and everyone seems to understand that.
    However I still don't get it?
    Why would women want to stop being hairy all of a sudden?
    Has it always been seen as unsightly for women? Was there ever a time when it wasn't?
    Why would we evolve with something if it unappealing for the opposite sex?
    However I would of thought that hair was never unsightly as it shows puberty has occurred, thus fertility?
    Looking younger and hairless surely is a sign of being too young to mate with?

    Please can someone explain this to me?

    I was surprised to find a quote from Ancient Rome which advised men to grow their arm pit hair long to increase masculinity. Men naturally have more hair and women less, so I suppose women shaving is empathesis on that sense of femininity. Then I suppose it gradually got accepted in Western society, as many things do. The genital hair thing... Well, I think that's since oral sex got more common place -- pushed in the 80s, I believe, after fear of STDs got very big.

    Society is all about changing connotations. We have natural odor which was initially to attract the opposite sex yet it became associated with bad hygiene so now has the opposite effect. Also, body hair has never served the purpose of making us more attractive -- it just has other practical uses. Remember not only women shave their hair. For a lot of males, it's seen as somehow unprofessional to not shave their face.

    And the argument about fertility... Well, I think body shape is the most obvious indicator of that.

    Personally I believe we should feel more free to grow our hair! Freedom is always very good. Especially since my body hair doesn't hurt anybody and I was born with it.
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    (Original post by LeBuche)
    Why does it matter? Each to their own.

    Can't stand people getting on their high horses and feeling superior because they go against perceived norms.
    Well my preteen/teenage life was monopolized by shaving and spending my money on shavers and re-fillers and dodgy chemical stuff which never got rid of hair properly and getting worried in PE as I thought I hadn't shaved it all off and at dance class hoping my armpits didn't have a shadow of slight hair.

    it matters because for a lot of girls this is a large part of their lives and it is nice to know why it is expected.

    It should be each to their own. What people want to do.

    No one is better for doing one thing or another.
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    (Original post by CaptainDudeson)
    Botty hair? Because I like to feel women's botties and a smooth botty feels far better to my hands and face.
    Tbh it would just be slightly stubbly as it has been shaved.
    If waxed sore and plastic-feeling (it is natural to have the most finest hair everywhere on body so without...)

    .....cats are nice to stroke....
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    (Original post by Sammydemon)
    Subconsciously, youthful aspects of a woman's looks are attractive to men. What can you do?
    Well this youthfulness is between the ages of 0-12.
    So possibly not attractive to men (excluding men with pedophilic tenancies)
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    (Original post by CaptainDudeson)
    I can't give you a reason, it just does. Leg shaving in particular is extremely odd for men.

    I did once shave my pubic hair and it was one of the most god awful experiences of my life. It was agony for days and I cut my ballsack.

    How about waxing or hair removal cream? I did once use hair removal cream on my gonads actually and it was extremely unpleasant.
    It's one of the most god awful experiences of my life, I've cut myself before. How you felt is how girls feel when we do it. Waxing is agony and can cause some serious damage if it's not done properly, I'm talking scaring here. And ingrown hairs are beyond painful to remove. Hair removal cream removes the whole painful whilst getting rid of it aspect but the regrowth is still a nightmare. I just prefer to keep it all neat and tidy then remove it all, I do the bikini line because that's itcy in underware if you don't plus I'm not a fam of "thighbrows"
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    (Original post by LittleMissNoface)
    Tbh it would just be slightly stubbly as it has been shaved.
    If waxed sore and plastic-feeling (it is natural to have the most finest hair everywhere on body so without...)

    .....cats are nice to stroke....
    Look 'LittleMissNoface' if that's even your real name, which I highly doubt, cats are nice to stroke but they are super furry. A lady is supposed to be smooth to the touch. Hair removal cream or laser hair removal should sort things out.
 
 
 
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