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    (Original post by mathsman77)
    Well, apparently he used to lure short people into traps by advertising 'wonder-growth' drugs, he would then abandon them on a an uninhabited island to remove their genes from the gene-pool.

    He didn't boast so much about this though, one of his former tutors claimed this was true.

    Ironically he was really short, like 5ft 2" or something (he wore platform shows to make himself taller )
    Grrr..... if quality of life is so crap, why hasn't NATO or UN stepped in and done something?
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    (Original post by 0x2a)
    NK is a product of the dictatorial Kim family. Before NK was formed? Well Korea was being suppressed by the Japanese as it was a Japanese colony and the Japanese was trying to erase Korean culture. Before that? Well you're now well in the 19th century, and no one who lived in those times is alive on the peninsular.
    Thank you. I wonder if they'll ever be liberated so to speak. Imagine having to reeducate an entire culture and try to train them to cope in this century.

    Perhaps it wouldn't be possible because they're so indoctrinated now that they wouldn't believe you, and it's not like you can show them the entire world in person to prove it. It'd have to be videos or webcam links which could be explained away as fake.

    It's such a shame.
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    (Original post by tohaaaa)
    Grrr..... if quality of life is so crap, why hasn't NATO or UN stepped in and done something?
    The UN doesn't have too good a track record on the Korean Peninsular - it was under their mandate that the anti-communist forces fought the North in the 1950s, leading to the 1953 Armistice that cut Korea in half. Technically they're still there in the form of the UK-ROK military forces located in the South so they are already reviled in the North.

    They are bound by the Armistice however not to cross the Demilitarized Zone - if they were to do so then a second all out war would begin pretty much straight away, only this time involving two rival nuclear weapons powers and a Northern regime with a leader whose legitimacy is solely derived from being the leader and guarantor of a gigantic military-political complex.

    As much is it would be wonderful to intervene and help the people of North Korea, we have to be mindful that they a nuclear-armed militarist state. Armies aren't the best way forward - if there's to be any positive change then it's better brought about by economic and diplomatic moves. Of course now Kim Jong-Un has been testing nuclear missiles and re-declaring a state of war, there's probably going to be a bit of a wait for further normalisation processes.
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    (Original post by JollyGreenAtheist)
    I think it would be very difficult, but it is is possible for Westerners to get into NK. Chinese tourist boards run state-sanctioned tours of NK, but obviously there are very heavy restrictions.

    Your Chinese tour guide takes responsibility for the tourists, so if someone were to **** off Kimmy, the guide would probably face a lengthy prison sentence/death.
    Chinese wont be sentenced for Korean leader being insulted....apparently

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    The UN doesn't have too good a track record on the Korean Peninsular - it was under their mandate that the anti-communist forces fought the North in the 1950s, leading to the 1953 Armistice that cut Korea in half. Technically they're still there in the form of the UK-ROK military forces located in the South so they are already reviled in the North.

    They are bound by the Armistice however not to cross the Demilitarized Zone - if they were to do so then a second all out war would begin pretty much straight away, only this time involving two rival nuclear weapons powers and a Northern regime with a leader whose legitimacy is solely derived from being the leader and guarantor of a gigantic military-political complex.

    As much is it would be wonderful to intervene and help the people of North Korea, we have to be mindful that they a nuclear-armed militarist state. Armies aren't the best way forward - if there's to be any positive change then it's better brought about by economic and diplomatic moves. Of course now Kim Jong-Un has been testing nuclear missiles and re-declaring a state of war, there's probably going to be a bit of a wait for further normalisation processes.
    If NK is now such a threat to everyone (South, USA etc...). Why hasn't the USA or other forces attempted to immobilize the efforts of the North to build up a nuclear arsenal? Also, I doubt the North would use nukes as they would get their assess kicked.
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    (Original post by tohaaaa)
    If NK is now such a threat to everyone (South, USA etc...). Why hasn't the USA or other forces attempted to immobilize the efforts of the North to build up a nuclear arsenal? Also, I doubt the North would use nukes as they would get their assess kicked.
    The US has done all it can short of an actual armed assault on the North to stop it gaining nuclear capacity but its a very difficult thing to do. There is a black market for this kind of thing and North Korea has an aptitude for evading sanctions.
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    The US has done all it can short of an actual armed assault on the North to stop it gaining nuclear capacity but its a very difficult thing to do. There is a black market for this kind of thing and North Korea has an aptitude for evading sanctions.
    Right. So I guess, there is no way (apart from a full blown invasion) to stop the dictatorship present in NK right now???
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    Chinese wont be sentenced for Korean leader being insulted....apparently

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    Hmmm... interesting, why?
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    (Original post by tohaaaa)
    Right. So I guess, there is no way (apart from a full blown invasion) to stop the dictatorship present in NK right now???
    Pretty much. All we can do is wait for it to collapse and be ready to help the North Koreans with humanitarian aid when it does
 
 
 
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