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    (Original post by Dirac Delta Function)
    Yup, definitely.

    The thing about being a man, however, is that you should - in principle - not need these things. Women need emotional support because they are weak.

    They have happier youth, but at the end of the day, they are women and we all know this is a man's world.
    This.

    What OP doesn't realise is that women's sexual peak occurs much earlier than men's. If they don't find a suitable partner during this time [which many women don't since they're too busy slooting it up nowadays] they better pray to God they've got incredible aging genetics. If not they are going to be saying hello to cats.

    The average man peaks much later than the average woman. Men peak at around late 20's/early 30's and peak goes on to around late 30's/early 40's, compared to women who peak late teens to about mid 20's.

    In fact Aristotle himself said that a 37 year old man should marry a 23 year old woman because they will both go through their decline at the same time [I think his estimation of women's decline was a bit low, nowadays I'd say it is about 25/26].

    Anyway OP yes many younger men are lonelier than women, but the time will come for many men once they grow up and get a status. This is speaking purely in sexual terms. It also doesn't help that many men have been emasculated nowadays [think of the typical 'nice guy'] and this hinders them a lot as well.
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    (Original post by mc1000)
    I think it's fair to say that men do tend to be more lonely in their youth not because lack of social competence or lack of friends, but more because at this age, women call the shots when it comes to relationships. It's perfectly acceptable and quite common for 18 year old women to go out with men in their late 20s, for example (less so the other way round) - and women typically go for older guys because of improved appearence with age (and not necessarily maturity - I really don't think there's as much maturity difference between guys and girls of the same age as popular opinion would like to suggest. I speak from personal experience).

    For example, I'm 23 and haven't had a girlfriend for 7 years. My ex is married the guy she dumped me for; he's 5 years older than her (which practically makes him a paedophile, so I guess the joke's on him :P). I was her first ever boyfriend; she will probably *never* know what it's like to be rejected. She will never understand how much pain I felt. She's only ever shown interest to guys she likes, and she's always got what she wanted, just because she's female.

    Most girls have numerous guys after them at any given time, and whether or not you get the girl you want to go out with is like a job interview. The chance of you getting it is quite low. Rejection after rejection ensues. You have to lower your standards, until it gets to the point that you consider going out with a girl just for the sake of having a relationship, yet not having a low-enough moral conscience to actually do that - hence remaining single. It gets so lonely without a girlfriend. So yes, girls (until their late 20s or so) basically can have a relationship whenever they want one, with (more-or-less) whomever they want. For guys it's the other way around. At least I hope it is.

    Incidentally, I reckon this is a major contributing factor to the shorter lifespan of men. More pain and loneliness in early adulthood = more strain on the heart = greater chance of dying young.
    I see your point, but I think the parts you've highlighted are a bit of an exaggeration. You really think every girl in her twenties can go out with whoever she wants, and always gets her way? This might be the case for some very attractive girls, but I think it's a bit more complicated than that for the majority. Certainly in my experiences, anyway. I have one friend who is very attractive and likeable and to be fair she could probably go out with anyone she wanted. But then so could most very attractive males with reasonable personalities. I'm pretty sure that all of my other friends have been rejected by guys.
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    (Original post by ChocoCoatedLemons)
    You shouldn't trust us. We're all not-so-secretly planning to take over the whole world. :cool:

    I agree. I enjoy the huge variety of clothes and makeup. I don't enjoy rag week.
    ....I'm not sure whether to believe you or not :zomg: such is my mistrust.

    I enjoy not needing to care about makeup :sly: not so much the lack of variety of clothes.
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    I think guys are socialised to not seek out help when they need it. Culture is not necessarily any better for women when we are demanded to be beautiful, smart and charismatic all at once. Things can be tough for everything and anyone can feel lonely. Just need to lift your chin and keep on going. And you're always allowed to ask for help. If not someone close to you, a student counsellor, a GP..?


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    (Original post by Artymess)
    ....I'm not sure whether to believe you or not :zomg: such is my mistrust.

    I enjoy not needing to care about makeup :sly: not so much the lack of variety of clothes.
    The plan is working!

    There's good and bad for both sides
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    (Original post by minimarshmallow)
    It is pretty damn good I will say.
    But it's still not perfect, took 3 months till I could wear a push up bra because my boobs were tender while my body got used to it... Something else men don't have to worry about.
    But then they dont get to have boobs in the first place. I wouldnt ever be without my boobs

    And im getting the same side effect :mad: i now cant sleep on my front
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    (Original post by PointeShoes-x)
    Please teach me this art!!
    start with low squats over the loo and then slowly get higher and higher :P practice aim.

    I also only do this sober, i imagine it would get messy otherwise
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    (Original post by Millie228)
    By that I mean being ambitious, work hard, develop confidence, challenging yourself etc. If a man never grows or takes on life to make sure he becomes socially skilled and confident, he will remain in the same place as he was when he was 17.
    I would say the same to a woman, she has to mature to make a good wife someday. A lot of women also don't know how to be feminine or take care of themselves while they are young (which sometimes results in them 'blossoming' in their twenties, not in their late teens).
    I don't think things are unfair one way or the other. Both men and women will age, but as women are less visual than men, their achievements and personality can compensate (up to a certain point). I saw some diagrams a while back depicting the peak of attractiveness for both sexes. For women, the golden spot tend to be somewhere in their mid to late twenties - they are still attractive and fertile, but have developed more personality and have overall good lives. For men it's usually mid to late thirties - they are becoming successful and confident, but have not yet started losing their hair or become unattractive to the youngest women. So the peaks are slightly different, which means it makes sense that women date men a few years up.
    I have always dated men approx. 6 years older than myself. Of course I am used to this, my stepfather is 17 years older than my mum.
    That's more or less what i had in mind. I struggle with the social part though and the confidence, but especially the social.

    I don't get the part in bold. Do you mean that by not taking care of themselves they blossom in their late twenties rather than their teens? Surely by not taking care of themselves they blossom earlier and then decline in their 20s onwards or have i gotten it all wrong.

    Also out of interest, how would women go about maturing to enable them to become good wives one day?
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    (Original post by datpiff)
    Maggie Thatcher sure wasn't weak.


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    She is however mentally ill and if you look at what she did in power it's not a stretch to suggest she was mentally retarded while in power too.
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    (Original post by Silver Arrow)
    That's more or less what i had in mind. I struggle with the social part though and the confidence, but especially the social.

    I don't get the part in bold. Do you mean that by not taking care of themselves they blossom in their late twenties rather than their teens? Surely by not taking care of themselves they blossom earlier and then decline in their 20s onwards or have i gotten it all wrong.
    Figuring out how to maintain a good diet, exercise, how to do your hair and makeup, what clothes work for you etc. takes time figuring out. You see a lot of young girls with bad skin, messy hair, baggy clothes and either no or too much makeup. Sometimes it takes time to find out what suits you and for some girls it takes time to realize the importance of taking care of yourself. Female attractiveness is a lot down to effort. A current 3 may not ever be a 9, but she could be a 6. Most 8+ are 6 or 7 au naturel. Of course after 28, metabolism slows down and aging starts. But there is no reason a 26 year old should look worse than a 19 year old. Preventing aging is also effort - to look great at 30, you'd have to use the right skincare and have the right lifestyle in your twenties.

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    Also out of interest, how would women go about maturing to enable them to become good wives one day?
    Will probably be negged for this, but in Britain, very few do anything at all. In general, feminist countries breeds women born with the attitude that they should not improve for anyone (perfect from birth I suppose?), and if they should change, they ought to become more manly.
    I do certain efforts to make myself a better partner, such as becoming more social, have more interests, stay slim. Not to sound mean, but the dating market is competitive so it is not a problem for me that a lot of women are slobs, don't know how to cook, have messy homes and don't know how to behave around men. It only makes the rest of us stand out. The same concept applies to men I think - I know some men read good blogs and have figured out how to act like a man around women and would never recommend the same blogs to other men.
    I figure the most important point is to be reflective and honest with yourself. If someone breaks up with you, you can ask them for an honest opinion to why, if you manage to phrase it so that you'll get an honest answer. Also to figure out where it goes wrong. If men don't approach a woman, she's either not attractive or not approachable enough. If men ask you out but only goes for sex, you might be projecting a slutty image. If they lose interest after a few dates, it's because you're boring, insecure, stupid or high maintenance, therefore not girlfriend material. A lot of women don't reflect on what they're doing wrong, and therefore end up complaining "there are no men".
    I'd also say use time wisely, get hobbies, develop new skills, learn new languages, be social, meet as many new people as you can. For someone who wants to get married and have children, I'd say to know how to deal with children is a plus.

    In general though, some maturity will come just from growing older. You meet new people, get work experience, travel etc. But just how much you get out of your twenties is down to the individual.

    The same thing applies to men, but with more emphasis on challenging yourself, becoming confident and successful and less of the nurturing stuff.
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    (Original post by Millie228)

    Will probably be negged for this, but in Britain, very few do anything at all. In general, feminist countries breeds women born with the attitude that they should not improve for anyone (perfect from birth I suppose?), and if they should change, they ought to become more manly.
    Hit the nail of the head here and you can see the attitudes that women have towards certain expectations.

    ie if women is held to a certain societal standard they will complain about it, not seek to understand why such a standard exists and the bring up the good ol' ''but men don't have to do this''.

    The same is happening with men as well unfortunately. But generally men will take those challenges on and try their best to succeed. But more and more are becoming whiners [which is annoying]. This thread is an example of that growing trend I would say.
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    There are more pressures on men eg: career is expected if one wants to be respected by a significant number of people.

    Also, courts are more likely to punish men. Divorce favours the woman and, crucially, unless the mother is a heroin addict custody isn't even up for discussion.
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    (Original post by Aramiss18)
    There are more pressures on men eg: career is expected if one wants to be respected by a significant number of people.

    Also, courts are more likely to punish men. Divorce favours the woman and, crucially, unless the mother is a heroin addict custody isn't even up for discussion.
    But men will all make it.

    Man has faced countless challenges in the past and always made it through [well, most of the time]. Without men the world would not function how it does right now. Men will always have the harder challenges to face in life but the greater rewards to reap for the challenges. So I, as a male, tell my fellow men to embrace the challenges of life and to tackle them with full effort. There's no point complaining, but it's better if you spent that time and energy into bettering yourself and the world, even if that same world doesn't care about your efforts as much as women's,
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    (Original post by Millie228)
    Figuring out how to maintain a good diet, exercise, how to do your hair and makeup, what clothes work for you etc. takes time figuring out. You see a lot of young girls with bad skin, messy hair, baggy clothes and either no or too much makeup. Sometimes it takes time to find out what suits you and for some girls it takes time to realize the importance of taking care of yourself. Female attractiveness is a lot down to effort. A current 3 may not ever be a 9, but she could be a 6. Most 8+ are 6 or 7 au naturel. Of course after 28, metabolism slows down and aging starts. But there is no reason a 26 year old should look worse than a 19 year old. Preventing aging is also effort - to look great at 30, you'd have to use the right skincare and have the right lifestyle in your twenties.



    Will probably be negged for this, but in Britain, very few do anything at all. In general, feminist countries breeds women born with the attitude that they should not improve for anyone (perfect from birth I suppose?), and if they should change, they ought to become more manly.
    I do certain efforts to make myself a better partner, such as becoming more social, have more interests, stay slim. Not to sound mean, but the dating market is competitive so it is not a problem for me that a lot of women are slobs, don't know how to cook, have messy homes and don't know how to behave around men. It only makes the rest of us stand out. The same concept applies to men I think - I know some men read good blogs and have figured out how to act like a man around women and would never recommend the same blogs to other men.
    I figure the most important point is to be reflective and honest with yourself. If someone breaks up with you, you can ask them for an honest opinion to why, if you manage to phrase it so that you'll get an honest answer. Also to figure out where it goes wrong. If men don't approach a woman, she's either not attractive or not approachable enough. If men ask you out but only goes for sex, you might be projecting a slutty image. If they lose interest after a few dates, it's because you're boring, insecure, stupid or high maintenance, therefore not girlfriend material. A lot of women don't reflect on what they're doing wrong, and therefore end up complaining "there are no men".
    I'd also say use time wisely, get hobbies, develop new skills, learn new languages, be social, meet as many new people as you can. For someone who wants to get married and have children, I'd say to know how to deal with children is a plus.

    In general though, some maturity will come just from growing older. You meet new people, get work experience, travel etc. But just how much you get out of your twenties is down to the individual.

    The same thing applies to men, but with more emphasis on challenging yourself, becoming confident and successful and less of the nurturing stuff.
    Great stuff. I cant rep you because according to TSR i've repped one of your posts recently even though i don't remember doing so.

    For the bolded part, they do this so as to get an advantage on other men?
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    (Original post by kunoichi)
    The awkward moment when your a girl and you can piss standing up......

    (Severe hatred of public toilet seats, many years practice)
    That sounds MEGA awkward! xD
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    (Original post by cant_think_of_name)
    It certainly is hard plenty of the time when you're a guy :sexface:
    lame
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    (Original post by ChocoCoatedLemons)
    I wouldn't want to be a guy, simply because I'm a woman.

    But do not fear, do not repent of your penis: You do not bleed for a week every month. Be grateful for your penis.
    This. Being a girl sucks.
    Imagine this:
    - Periods. They're sticky, uncomfortable and (literally) a pain in the ass. Your hair and skin gets oily, you need to shower twice a day, there's a fear of leakage or 'getting caught out', you generally feel crap and lousy with them, mood swings, stomach cramps, headaches, backache, the whole caboodle.

    - There's more pressure for a girl in terms of appearance. Some girls don't care, but on a night out for example. Guy: Shower, shave, aftershave, nice shirt, pair of trousers and a jacket - sorted. Girl: Shower, spend ages working out what to wear, get dressed, doesn't look right, take it off, try something else, blow dry hair, straighten/curl, hairspray, decide it still doesn't look right, feel like throwing hairbrush at the mirror, makeup, mascara gets poked in the eye by mistake, realise you put too much on so have to start all over again... arrrrrrrgh!!

    - Bras. Some women have no trouble with them. For the rest of us - in fact quite a large majority, they are, simply put, abhorrent. You men don't have to have a nasty metal-and-fabric torture device strapped round your chest every day

    - High heels. Okay, you don't wear these all the time, but they are killers.

    - Pregnancy and childbirth. Need I say more? Pregnancy is a hormonal rollercoaster and can have many physical complications. Childbirth? Imagine being hit ''where it hurts'' repeatedly. I rest my case.

    So yeah. Count yourself lucky being a guy
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    (Original post by Jabberwox)
    This. Being a girl sucks.
    Imagine this:
    - Periods. They're sticky, uncomfortable and (literally) a pain in the ass. Your hair and skin gets oily, you need to shower twice a day, there's a fear of leakage or 'getting caught out', you generally feel crap and lousy with them, mood swings, stomach cramps, headaches, backache, the whole caboodle.
    :eyeball:

    You sure you're talking about periods?
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    (Original post by ChocoCoatedLemons)
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    You sure you're talking about periods?
    I'm sure but y'know, they can cause pain in the er, female area. Not necessarily the back passage though
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    Also OP once you get to about 27/28, many women of the same age will all of a sudden start giving you a lot of interest [If you don't get as much right now, which with the way you are writing seems like it]. Do not fall for it, these women's biological starts clicking and the curious case of baby rabbies occurs at this time. If you avoid this trap, you will live the prime of your life perfectly fine . Then you will look back on this thread and with a face-palm.
 
 
 
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