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    Only if the joke is funny. If it's not, it's just nasty.
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    No. I don't get how anyone can find it funny. I literally have no respect for people who make rape/murder jokes, you wouldn't find it so funny if it happened to someone close to you..
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    I voted yes because it's not the subject matter than makes a joke unnacceptable, it's the intent behind the joke.
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    (Original post by infairverona)
    No. I don't get how anyone can find it funny. I literally have no respect for people who make rape/murder jokes, you wouldn't find it so funny if it happened to someone close to you..
    I know people that have self-harmed and committed suicide, I don't object to jokes about those subjects. I know plenty of gay and non-cis gendered people, I don't wail on when jokes about them are told. I have certain political and spiritual leanings along with some very outside-the-norm beliefs, I don't get my panties in a twist when people make jokes at the expense of what I believe. As a child I was fat and I was bullied, I don't get worked up when people tell jokes about fat people or bullying victims.

    Grow a thicker skin. Noone is making you listen to those jokes, if you stumble across one, simply pay no mind to it. But don't presume to tell other people what they can and can't talk about, what they can and can't find funny.
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    (Original post by Steevee)
    I know people that have self-harmed and committed suicide, I don't object to jokes about those subjects. I know plenty of gay and non-cis gendered people, I don't wail on when jokes about them are told. I have certain political and spiritual leanings along with some very outside-the-norm beliefs, I don't get my panties in a twist when people make jokes at the expense of what I believe. As a child I was fat and I was bullied, I don't get worked up when people tell jokes about fat people or bullying victims.

    Grow a thicker skin. Noone is making you listen to those jokes, if you stumble across one, simply pay no mind to it. But don't presume to tell other people what they can and can't talk about, what they can and can't find funny.
    I didn't tell anyone they can't find it funny. I just said I have no respect for people who find it funny to make a joke out of someone else's misfortune. I think that's fair enough. I don't need a 'thicker skin', fortunately I don't have any friends who make such sick jokes.
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    It's one of those; "there's a time and a place".

    At Xmas where I was working we had this concert going on, and every now and again the 'Comedian' of the group, would tell a few jokes...

    One went like this;

    "I bumped into Rolf Harris the other day at ASDA. I said; "Wasn't it you that did two little boys?", Rolf replied "No! That was Jimmy Savile!""

    Never have I seen a room go from laughing to complete silence in milliseconds.

    Cheeky *******s had the nerve to go "They don't like me out there" to his co-performers during the interval!
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    If you can't laugh at the crap life throws at you what do you laugh at?

    /conversation
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    (Original post by infairverona)
    I didn't tell anyone they can't find it funny. I just said I have no respect for people who find it funny to make a joke out of someone else's misfortune. I think that's fair enough. I don't need a 'thicker skin', fortunately I don't have any friends who make such sick jokes.
    Well then you have a very shallow definition of respect, and I doubt anyone will worry about losing yours. Would you have no respect for a 9/11 firefighter because they made a joke about the Holocaust? No respect for a Heart Surgeon because they use black humour to get through the day?

    How very, very shallow.
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    (Original post by Steevee)
    Well then you have a very shallow definition of respect, and I doubt anyone will worry about losing yours. Would you have no respect for a 9/11 firefighter because they made a joke about the Holocaust? No respect for a Heart Surgeon because they use black humour to get through the day?

    How very, very shallow.
    Hahaha. I'd rather be shallow than be someone who makes jokes about disgusting ordeals other people are put through. I really don't care what you think, I find it foul and as I said I don't really know anyone who makes sick jokes. I don't find them funny. Shallow? Alright then. Funnily enough I've never come across a fire fighter or a heart surgeon who would make those jokes, I'd imagine people doing jobs which deal with death all the time would probably have a bit more class than that. I'd also find it extremely unprofessional for people doing those jobs to joke about death tbh, this is your problem not mine. Grow up.
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    Would it be acceptable to joke about Amanda Todd?
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    I've lost count of all the "herp you wouldn't find it funny if that happened to you or somene you know!!111" kind of posts ITT.
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    (Original post by infairverona)
    Hahaha. I'd rather be shallow than be someone who makes jokes about disgusting ordeals other people are put through. I really don't care what you think, I find it foul and as I said I don't really know anyone who makes sick jokes. I don't find them funny. Shallow? Alright then. Funnily enough I've never come across a fire fighter or a heart surgeon who would make those jokes, I'd imagine people doing jobs which deal with death all the time would probably have a bit more class than that. I'd also find it extremely unprofessional for people doing those jobs to joke about death tbh, this is your problem not mine. Grow up.
    Have you met many firefighters, soldiers, police, nurses, doctors etc? I have met a few of each, and I can say that some of them have joked about death and other sensitive subjects, infact it's quite common among doctors and nurses.

    How is this my problem? It's you that is too childish to handle a few jokes, but I suppose it's personal choice. I'm all grown up little miss, why don't you catch me up eh?
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    (Original post by infairverona)
    No. I don't get how anyone can find it funny. I literally have no respect for people who make rape/murder jokes, you wouldn't find it so funny if it happened to someone close to you..

    I think it very much depends on how the joke is made. Rape isn't funny, but that doesn't mean that jokes about rape can't be funny, or that satire can't be used to make a point. Like when Todd Akin made stupid comments about 'legitimate rape' there was an amazing parody video about legitimate rape as a birth control method. It's a joke about rape but not in the context that rape is funny, but that what he said was ridiculous.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtzqvqzBdUQ

    See also
    about how casually we use the word raped

    or

    http://www.youtube.com/v=R8FfFwtL91Q

    for a genuinely funny take on the situation.

    Of course rape isn't funny, but that doesn't mean that we can't find the humour in a dark situation or in the stupid ways that people respond to it.
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    (Original post by HanAsh)
    If a member of your family was murdered or raped or you were raped, would you still think it was ok for people to joke about it? Would you still think it was funny?
    Genuine question, I'm interested.
    Of course I wouldn't... but why should that give me the right to stop people doing it?
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    (Original post by CJKay)


    If you can't laugh at the crap life throws at you what do you laugh at?

    /conversation
    that clip was the first thing I thought of when I saw this thread. you are completely right, if we can't make light of the bad stuff in the world then the world is a much darker place
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    Freedom of speech and plenty of other reasons why it is and should be very much acceptable to joke about ANYTHING.
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    My close friends and I do occasionally make jokes about rape and murder. Usually at my expense seeing as my Auntie was murdered. I don't really take offence, it happened before I was born so I never met her.

    Of course I wouldn't ever make those kind of jokes to people I don't really know. Talking about rape is probably not the best icebreaker in the world!!
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    (Original post by Steevee)
    Have you met many firefighters, soldiers, police, nurses, doctors etc? I have met a few of each, and I can say that some of them have joked about death and other sensitive subjects, infact it's quite common among doctors and nurses.

    How is this my problem? It's you that is too childish to handle a few jokes, but I suppose it's personal choice. I'm all grown up little miss, why don't you catch me up eh?
    Well seeing as my mum volunteers for the police and is a solicitor specialising in personal injury claims, and my Aunt is head of HR for 3 hospitals, yes I do know many policemen/medical professionals actually. None of whom make crass jokes about the people they protect.

    Yes, I'm childish. Ok. Look at you, you're so big and grown up that you find other people's tragedy hilarious. Clearly I am the childish one here. Let's agree to disagree.
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    humour is a defense mechanism just as much as anything else. May not be the most mature defence. Everyone has a different way of coping.

    Of course, that being said, doesn't make it alright to do.
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    (Original post by infairverona)
    Well seeing as my mum volunteers for the police and is a solicitor specialising in personal injury claims, and my Aunt is head of HR for 3 hospitals, yes I do know many policemen/medical professionals actually. None of whom make crass jokes about the people they protect.

    Yes, I'm childish. Ok. Look at you, you're so big and grown up that you find other people's tragedy hilarious. Clearly I am the childish one here. Let's agree to disagree.
    do you actually understand how "sick" jokes work? they are not finding peoples tadgedy hilarious, nobody finds saying "haha you got raped" to an actual rape victim amusing. people may make light of a dark situation, but they are not actually insulting the victims. joking about something is not the same as condoning it. when a fireman I know joked he is a pat time arsonist to keep up demand, I thik he still frowned on actual arson.
 
 
 
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