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    Stupid video really. The chick was being provocative and when she got a reaction she started acting as if she was an innocent bystander. She was in a hostile environment amongst people who were quite obviously not going to sit down and share a gin and tonic with her to chat about nail polish and handbags. Obviously I think those Muslims were disgusting and need to bugger off back to their own country if they won't respect the laws of the land, but it pissed me off that she was focusing on the religious message rather than the political one (which seemed more important in this context). She was crying because he said she was going to hell if she didn't change... yeah and? What's that got to do with Muslims invading the country and committing crimes and implementing their own underground courts? Couldn't care less if a muslim tol me I was going to hell. Catholics are taught that outside of Catholicism nobody can be saved unless you live a life of perfect innocence and are invincibly ignorant of the true God. Protestants think the same (most of em). I don't see what that has to do with anything. Anyway, I think Islam is a false and evil religion and that these people need to be deported immediately but that video of the chick was stupid.
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    Liberals won't believe it until it's finally happened. The precious freedoms they fought so hard to win, equal rights for gays and women, will disappear in the blink of an eye, and they'll be left asking 'how did this happen?'. Letting Muslims settle here en masse will be looked upon in the future as the biggest mistake this country ever made - all in the name of their almost religion like ideology of 'multiculturalism'.
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    (Original post by Al-Mudaari)
    It's a shame that instead of actually trying to learn and understand about Islam, she preferred to do selective shots and interviews (probably was selective of those too) on a small minority of individuals and paint a brush upon Muslims/Islam as a whole (as the OP has clearly brought).

    Also, not all Salafi's are like this, which is another generalisation by people who buy into media labels. A lot of those protests were organised by the likes of Anjem Choudry and his Mojo's.
    I'm absolutely SICK AND TIRED of apologists like you(and they make me even more sick when they don't even belong to your religion) insisting it's only a tiny, or small minority that are extremists.
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    (Original post by harith117)
    True muslims dont behave like that... theyve lost their mind

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    No true Scotsman eh? :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Barksy)
    Ask yourself why it keeps getting discussed. Islam is not something you should be hasty about sweeping under the carpet.
    YES! Why do the liberals never wonder why no one is worried about Hinduism or Sikhism, or this country becoming dominated by either of those religions?
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    (Original post by DK_Tipp)
    Being Irish I can relate to that analogy... My point is that if you want to shut this sort of thing down you have to consider what the UK government can do to combat extremism. I'm not a British citizen (although I do live in the UK currently) so I'm not going to give a lecture on how I think you should do that but I think it should be two pronged- clamp down on Islamic leaders who stir up anti-UK sentiment and clamp down on organisations like the EDL who want to create anti-Islam racial tensions driving young men in to the hands of those radical leaders.
    The EDL have been around for about 4 years - radicalisation of Muslims in this country has been going on a lot longer. They're not the problem, they were founded in response to the problem.
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    (Original post by RainbowShifter)
    Most of you guys are making stereotypes based on what you have seen from a small group of that type of person. Most of them are very nice people, its just the extremists that people actually pay any attention to.
    Have you tried being gay in a Muslim ghetto?
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    (Original post by momo26396)
    Yes we should sweep Islam under the carpet. The only reason this religion is discussed is because of its association with terrorism and Islam is most certainly not a religion that advocates terrorism. Perhaps it would be more sensible to 'sweep' terrorism under the carpet as opposed to Islam as it is only a pocket of stupid individuals who commit acts of terrorism and not the entirety of Islam.
    Yeah, it must just be a coincidence that most Islamic countries are either violent hellholes, or prosperous on the surface but retain barbaric 7th century religious laws. I can think of a couple of exceptions, but on the whole, Islam is responsible for most bloodshed in the world today.
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    (Original post by L i b)
    There are just as many scumbags in Britain who hate this country and are white as there are Muslim immigrants who feel that way.



    I'm white, my family have been in this country since the Norman conquest and even I don't respect the 'way of life' of a great many British people. Where should I bugger off to?



    If you had found yourself in Nazi Germany in the 1930s, or Soviet Russia under Stalin, would you have felt a duty to "respect" their laws?
    Really? Where? If you're referring to white racist groups they tend to love, in their own twisted way, not hate this country(or were you referring to white Islamists like Richard Dart?). Even if you were right, where's the logic in basically saying 'well, we've got plenty of homegrown scumbags, let's bring a couple of million more in from poverty stricken theocracies'. As for comparing this country to Nazi Germany or Stalin's Russia, that has to be a joke. If anything the law and police of England have been way TOO damn tolerant of religious nutters.
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    (Original post by Farid Jalil)
    From what i saw in the video, they are not normal Muslim people and its sad that these people get all the attention.
    They wouldn't be getting any attention if they were deported or locked up(and segregated from all other prisoners).
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    (Original post by FireScirocco1)
    I like these people. British law needs to be challenged.

    Particularly when it comes to family law.
    'Challenged' in what way? Should Muslims be untouchable(they virtually are now to be fair) by the law?
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    (Original post by Ray Barone)
    The EDL have been around for about 4 years - radicalisation of Muslims in this country has been going on a lot longer. They're not the problem, they were founded in response to the problem.
    Xenophobia contributes to the problem. Just because the EDL don't predate radical Islam doesn't mean they don't fuel it. Now I don't know how big an influence the EDL really are but you have to admit they're aggression is fantastic propaganda for fundamentalists recruiting to their cause.

    You have to understand how radicals, revolutionaries and terrorists of all creeds, hues and convictions operate. They work to provoke a broad reaction from their target against vulnerable people, usually by doing something despicable themselves and then use the division that creates to their own gain.

    The people of the UK need to think carefully about their reaction to radical Islam and the response should be calculated and specific. Not a sweeping attack.
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    Thats just british born pakistanis for you
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    (Original post by Ray Barone)
    Yeah, it must just be a coincidence that most Islamic countries are either violent hellholes, or prosperous on the surface but retain barbaric 7th century religious laws. I can think of a couple of exceptions, but on the whole, Islam is responsible for most bloodshed in the world today.
    I love how you dismiss the killing of thousands of Iraqi women and children by British and American troops that stopped just a few years ago. And as you're rather keen on your sense of history of '7th century laws' perhaps you should note the total wipeout of the native Aboriginee population of Australia by Britain throughout the 20th century and the brutual massacre of thousands of Indian men in Amritsar by British troops in 1920.

    Don't you dare claim that the religion of peace advocates terrorism.

    **Not a muslim**
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    (Original post by Ray Barone)
    'Challenged' in what way? Should Muslims be untouchable(they virtually are now to be fair) by the law?
    I mean that the laws in the UK are so anti-male and anti-family that they need to be challenged.
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    (Original post by Ray Barone)
    Really? Where? If you're referring to white racist groups they tend to love, in their own twisted way, not hate this country(or were you referring to white Islamists like Richard Dart?).
    IRA types, Scottish nationalists etc.
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    Anyone got a link to the full documentary? Looks quite interesting


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