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    (Original post by Medicine Boy)
    Sorry to the above poster, city are not an arrogant club i was referring to how city and madrid both spend £100 million each summer

    and madrid have a very good academy, they produce very good talent, probably better than united's talent these days (although giggs, scholes, beckham in 92 was incredible)

    they just don't have as much faith in youth that barca/arsenal/dortmund/southampton/villa/united do, it may be changing but that's how it is for now

    spending £86 million on bale (when spain as a country is in debt) is irresponsible to say the least.
    Once again I do agree with you, Madrid are an extreme club in every aspect


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    Leeds, Rotherham
    We're not famous anymore haha


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    Leeds, Liverpool, Manchester City.
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    Por que?

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    1. Not really. That's an urban myth.
    2. Don't forget Guti and Arbeloa and more recently Carvajal, Jese and Morata. They are changing their philosophy.
    3. That's not uncommon. Also, they just chose not to renew his contract after 2003. He was not sacked.
    4. That's the same as any football club.
    5. Given their glorious history, it would be ridiculous for them not to be arrogant.
    They don't develop youngsters they get rid of them, they go on to be successful and then suddenly they buy em back when their almost finished products. :lol:

    Real Madrid throw money down the drain as if its ****. They get better interest rates from the banks as well.

    9 Champions Leagues yet 5 of them during when what 4 clubs competed for the Champions League? They act as if the Champions League is their god given right to win. If you seriously can't see why Madrid are disliked... :lol:

    Also spending like 20 million plus on youngsters that are already past that need polishing stage is not developing youngsters. Illaramendi, Isco, Carvajal all developed outside the club.
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    (Original post by mikey_hale)
    I hate the way their fans blame local MK people supporting their local team and how they never get bad press despite destorying half of our away end, and people on twitter laughing at our fans dying. I always don't like how they were formed in 2002, two years before the move, and the main reason for Wimbledon F.C's problems were the fans not turning up
    I don't think I've ever heard anyone blame people from MK for supporting the 'Dons'. The owners of your club stole a massive part of these fans' lives so while vandalism is never justifiable it's understandable when you consider the behaviour of football fans in general. When there's a large enough disconnect between fans and the owners it's natural for fans to take their club back and one of the ways to do that is to create a new team (see FC United of Manchester). The fans didn't turn up because they were playing in Croydon.
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    'Solidarität mit dem NWDO' - 'Solidarity with the NWDO'. NWDO being theNationaler Widerstand Dortmund meaning National Resistance Dortmund (neo-Nazi organisation that was banned by the state 2 days before)



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    (Original post by Bored ..)
    Celtic, dundee utd, manutd, psg, man city, St Pauli
    :eek: How on earth can anybody hate St Pauli?! I went to one of their games a couple of years ago whilst I was on hoilday in Germany and it was probably the best football experience I've ever had. The tickets were dirt cheap (about £10 I think), you could drink in the stadium, the fans were passionate, sociable, welcoming and never they never stopped singing (even though they were losing 2-0). Plus, from what I read about them when I got home, the club is owned by the fans and the board/management actually listens to what the fans want (like when they were redeveloping their stadium for example). They remind me of some of the traditional English football clubs before money/comercialisation/BSkyB/health & safety ruined the English game.
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    :eek: How on earth can anybody hate St Pauli?! I went to one of their games a couple of years ago whilst I was on hoilday in Germany and it was probably the best football experience I've ever had. The tickets were dirt cheap (about £10 I think), you could drink in the stadium, the fans were passionate, sociable, welcoming and never they never stopped singing (even though they were losing 2-0). Plus, from what I read about them when I got home, the club is owned by the fans and the board/management actually listens to what the fans want (like when they were redeveloping their stadium for example). They remind me of some of the traditional English football clubs before money/comercialisation/BSkyB/health & safety ruined the English game.
    They're a Rangers fan or maybe they support the Derry Boys since they listed Dundee United.
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    Manchester City, Chelsea, Real Madrid and Liverpool.
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    "Hate" is a strong word, but I intensely dislike Man City and Liverpool. And Leeds but seeing as though they're not in the Premiership *cough* then the rivalry has kinda dwindled
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    (Original post by jaydoh)
    "Hate" is a strong word, but I intensely dislike Man City and Liverpool. And Leeds but seeing as though they're not in the Premiership *cough* then the rivalry has kinda dwindled
    We'll be back eventually (or not), don't you boys worry haha


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    We'll be back eventually (or not), don't you boys worry haha


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    (Original post by Medicine Boy)
    I don't see why so many people hate manchester united

    Consistently play young english players - haven't fielded a squad without a youth player since 1937 so not fully reliant on bought players, generally speaking don't spend as much as the likes of city, barca, bayern, madrid, psg, chelsea or even liverpool.

    I think there was a time after the munich air disaster where people liked united but now it's all seemed to have changed

    Thoughts anyone?
    After Munich there was a great sympathy for United from a lot of teams because we had a team that played good football and the team was largely made up of English players so the tragedy affected the whole country in a footballing sense. Even the European Cup win in 1968 was seen as a big triumph for English football but then the 70s happened.

    Matt Busby went and the managers that followed never gained anywhere near the same level of respect, the players people had loved to watch were gone, and United fans had become a problem. Making headline news several times a season for taking over people's towns and smashing the place up tends not to endear yourselves to the rest of the country. The waves of violence, thievery, drug taking and other shenanigans at United games (which continues today) meant United were no longer sympathetic. In fact, they were quite the opposite.

    Then of course the 90s happened and people had to see their teams which had previously been top contenders constantly finish below United, and when any team stays at the top too long in any sport the haters become consumed with envy and want to see them knocked off ASAP. Plus with success comes a new breed of bandwagon jumping idiot fan, of which we have millions, and the stupid uninformed crap they spew sort of put the final nail in the coffin of us ever being remotely likeable ever again.

    But I wouldn't have it any other way ... I love being hated wherever we go in England!
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    (Original post by Boner in joggers)
    I don't think I've ever heard anyone blame people from MK for supporting the 'Dons'. The owners of your club stole a massive part of these fans' lives so while vandalism is never justifiable it's understandable when you consider the behaviour of football fans in general. When there's a large enough disconnect between fans and the owners it's natural for fans to take their club back and one of the ways to do that is to create a new team (see FC United of Manchester). The fans didn't turn up because they were playing in Croydon.
    Blame may have been the wrong word, but our fans take the flack for what happened when really, we are just doing exactly what other fans do, support their team, and also the club does alot of good things that doesn't get recognised.
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    (Original post by Futility)
    :eek: How on earth can anybody hate St Pauli?! I went to one of their games a couple of years ago whilst I was on hoilday in Germany and it was probably the best football experience I've ever had. The tickets were dirt cheap (about £10 I think), you could drink in the stadium, the fans were passionate, sociable, welcoming and never they never stopped singing (even though they were losing 2-0). Plus, from what I read about them when I got home, the club is owned by the fans and the board/management actually listens to what the fans want (like when they were redeveloping their stadium for example). They remind me of some of the traditional English football clubs before money/comercialisation/BSkyB/health & safety ruined the English game.
    They sing songs about the team I support (rangers) and a large section of their fans went to an oldfirm game just to attack rangers fans
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    (Original post by Malevolent)
    They don't develop youngsters they get rid of them, they go on to be successful and then suddenly they buy em back when their almost finished products. :lol:

    Real Madrid throw money down the drain as if its ****. They get better interest rates from the banks as well.

    9 Champions Leagues yet 5 of them during when what 4 clubs competed for the Champions League? They act as if the Champions League is their god given right to win. If you seriously can't see why Madrid are disliked... :lol:

    Also spending like 20 million plus on youngsters that are already past that need polishing stage is not developing youngsters. Illaramendi, Isco, Carvajal all developed outside the club.
    You're a Barcelona fan though. You're hardly going to be impartial.
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    (Original post by Medicine Boy)
    I don't see why so many people hate manchester united

    Consistently play young english players - haven't fielded a squad without a youth player since 1937 so not fully reliant on bought players, generally speaking don't spend as much as the likes of city, barca, bayern, madrid, psg, chelsea or even liverpool.

    I think there was a time after the munich air disaster where people liked united but now it's all seemed to have changed

    Thoughts anyone?
    They're a well run club, more teams deserving of hatred than them. In a word, it's jealousy.

    Also they sort of started all this nonsense with clubs being a brand with their MUTV and so on.

    Some proper weapons in their support but can't knock the hardcore lads away midweek at places like Barnsley, Scunthorpe etc, they're as good as anyone there.

    Oh and their players usually being involved in one way or another with England's failures in the eyes of many doesn't help, Beckham, Ronaldo, P. Neville, Rooney, Young...

    Post edit: When I say well run, I mean their ideals, not their finances.
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    People saying Spurs, can you give a reason why? No reason to hate them imo. I'm struggling to think of one.

    Also they're good for a laugh.



 
 
 
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