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How are the Conservatives addressing the horrendous public spending created by Labour when they're running up public debt like drunk socialists on amphetamines?

Do you really believe they'll hold a referendum? If the party wants its referendum pledge to be taken seriously it could start by holding off on opting in to the European Arrest Warrant at the very least.

who care's about national debt, the vast majority of countries will never pay it all off
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What about the Greens? I think most people recognise them as a pretty legit party in terms of policy these days and they're hoping to win a few seats, so will actually have some power.

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The Greens are far too left wing and statist for my liking.
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conservatives by a mile, the tories will hold a referendum if they get a majority. If they get the most seats but not enough for a majority they will try and force it through with the parliament act. They can't back up due to UKIP anyway.

Labour cannot be trusted
Everytime Labour are in government they hand over an economy that is in a worse state then when they came in
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English votes for English laws is very important too which labour oppose because they will not benefit
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Is the BNP still running? I may vote them or UKIP.
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Scottish National Party. Pro-independence and pro-EU.

Only a matter of time!
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Scottish National Party. Pro-independence and pro-EU.

Only a matter of time!
You're not in favour of remaining in union with the rest of the UK but the rest of Europe is OK...right
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The party line is not to be anti Europe, its merely the promise of a referendum, which they will have to keep to or be massacred in 2020.

And what they are conducting the most severe cuts since the war (you can argue whether this is economically a good thing or not)

The party line is to renegotiate membership of the EU. How can anyone this matters to vote Tory with confidence when they're still giving power away over UK citizens and the EU has quite categorically said there'll be no renegotiation on free movement of people, which is what the Tories really need to deliver to gain a majority? The Tory position is dishonest.

Real public spending increases rapidly, especially on capital investment
- John Redwood, 22 October, 2014. Redwood seems to be the only person left in the party with any grip on reality since Carswell defected to UKIP.

What's the point of making cuts when public spending is still going up?
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(Original post by Tamora)
The party line is to renegotiate membership of the EU. How can anyone this matters to vote Tory with confidence when they're still giving power away over UK citizens and the EU has quite categorically said there'll be no renegotiation on free movement of people, which is what the Tories really need to deliver to gain a majority? The Tory position is dishonest.

Real public spending increases rapidly, especially on capital investment
- John Redwood, 22 October, 2014. Redwood seems to be the only person left in the party with any grip on reality since Carswell defected to UKIP.

What's the point of making cuts when public spending is still going up?
With regards to your first point the simple answer is that not everybody who dislikes the EU, dislikes it on the basis of immigration or visions of complete sovereignty. The secondly, while many people may dislike the EU, they may not have a solid opinion or like me they may be determined to keep an open mind until 2017. If i vote to leave then it won't be on the basis of those hard working Poles or that nasty European Arrest warrant, it will be on the basis that Europe is a subsidy junky (CAP ect..) and that i desire closer union with the Anglosphere.

Overall we do need deeper cuts (though that's an incomplete picture since spending varies month by month) however increasing capital spending is in the long term the best spending government can make. That's houses, roads, railways, schools, hospitals, broadband.. infrastructure is generally beneficial to business.

Because the markets don't care if spending goes from £5 to £10 so long as the proportion to GDP decreases (i.e. the economy grows from £7.50 to £20 making the debt more affordable).
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You're not in favour of remaining in union with the rest of the UK but the rest of Europe is OK...right
Yes, of course.

Westminster sets too many of our laws, takes too much of our revenue, holds too much power over us.

The European Union provides us with key trade links to the rest of Europe and I, personally, take to the idea of free movement within all EU states.

The whole "they took our job", "damn immigrants" attitude isn't so prominent in Scotland. Whilst England is heading more right-wing, Scotland is perhaps going more left-wing or simply staying as it is: comfortably left of centre.

The Labour party are finished in Scotland after siding with the Tories in the Better Together campaign, only to go back on promises they made to the Scots to convince them to vote No.
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The party line is to renegotiate membership of the EU. How can anyone this matters to vote Tory with confidence when they're still giving power away over UK citizens and the EU has quite categorically said there'll be no renegotiation on free movement of people, which is what the Tories really need to deliver to gain a majority? The Tory position is dishonest.

Real public spending increases rapidly, especially on capital investment
- John Redwood, 22 October, 2014. Redwood seems to be the only person left in the party with any grip on reality since Carswell defected to UKIP.

What's the point of making cuts when public spending is still going up?
The cuts are to the bloated public sector, they should not be cutting capital investment. Now is the ideal time to borrow to invest what with record low interest rates, low inflation and unused recourses in the economy. The IMF (normally advocating austerity) said last week that for most western countries $1 of government investment increases output by $3. This makes public investment a free lunch.

The UK has one of lowest capital investment rates in the West (14%), this will adversely affect future generations
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