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    (Original post by BitWindy)
    Has anyone told her that pseudo is not pronounced "puh-soodo"?
    Yes, my sister has pointed that out to me. Sorry to have inconvenienced your sense of hearing :lol:

    Pseudo isn't really a very English word, so don't murder me for trying the older pronunciation in a different language.
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    (Original post by jakeel1)
    And what exactly is the study of astrology? Astrology is the discipline which aimed to show the relations between humans and the cosmos based on a primitive view of how the solar system works. Does astrology concern relations of ideas concerning quantity? Does it contain reasoning concerning matters of fact and existence?

    To the flames.
    To the flames is such a ridiculous attitude. There are loads of resources you can look into if you want your first question answered, and many people that could give you their view on it. Screaming to the flames before even taking a remote look at something in some depth is neither common sense nor science.

    It's pointless mis-channelled anger at the general notion of people following harmful non-truths. I'm not aware of anyone being killed for astrology, so why feel threatened?

    People suffer every day from sexism, on the other hand, and I still see stupid parents cutting boys' hair and growing girls', like some sort of mindless ritual. To the flames with that attitude, rather. I don't know one person who hasn't suffered from being treated as a sex first, and as an innocent, sensitive, worthy human being second. Take the anger over there instead of obeying quietly, and don't harass the low hanging fruit of the existence or lack thereof of a relationship between humans and the solar system.
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    (Original post by xMr_BrightSide)
    Is there any evidence for astrology being a reliable predictor for human behaviour? If so, good, investigate it, see if there's any truth to the matter. Unfortunately, no such evidence has been found, and even if you wanted to investigate regardless, you have no mechanism through which astrology could affect humans. Posit something, indeed anything, falsifiable about astrology and go from there.

    I could analogously argue that the breeding habits of rabbits influences human behaviour. But, in the same way as astrology, there is no evidence or proposed mechanism through which this relationship could work.
    As pointed out previously, the premise for scientific investigation is not an existing mechanism, but an observation.

    Experimentation must yield the mechanism. It's that way around.

    I agree with the rest.
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    (Original post by SaucissonSecCy)
    OP, you should start a proper society on here for mutual analysis of people's planetary permutations. We've got rep, it's perfect.
    :lol: For fun? For experiments?
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    (Original post by Flying Cookie)
    To the flames is such a ridiculous attitude. There are loads of resources you can look into if you want your first question answered, and many people that could give you their view on it. Screaming to the flames before even taking a remote look at something in some depth is neither common sense nor science.

    It's pointless mis-channelled anger at the general notion of people following harmful non-truths. I'm not aware of anyone being killed for astrology, so why feel threatened?

    People suffer every day from sexism, on the other hand, and I still see stupid parents cutting boys' hair and growing girls', like some sort of mindless ritual. To the flames with that attitude, rather. I don't know one person who hasn't suffered from being treated as a sex first, and as an innocent, sensitive, worthy human being second. Take the anger over there instead of obeying quietly, and don't harass the low hanging fruit of the existence or lack thereof of a relationship between humans and the solar system.
    I don't feel threatened, it's a popular saying attributed to the Scottish philosopher Hume.
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    (Original post by jakeel1)
    I don't feel threatened, it's a popular saying attributed to the Scottish philosopher Hume.
    Interesting, so what does it mean?
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    (Original post by Flying Cookie)
    Interesting, so what does it mean?
    It means that one should be very careful when reasoning so not to fall into error, and that they should mainly limit themselves to observation, experimentation and comparison, although not denying the role of non-rational factors such as chance, dreams, myth and so forth in our understanding of the world, and indeed even the process of knowledge. It's summed up with another Hume quote: 'Those errors in religion are dangerous, of philosophy only ridiculous'. Of course astrology is not harmful, not to most people anyway (there are a few statesmen who seek the advice of astrologers who have caused harm) it is a valuable part of human history which represents a primitive state of astronomy. However one should be very careful about claiming knowledge on the basis of astrology.
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    (Original post by Flying Cookie)
    Good evening all,

    I have found a framework of thought that can allow astrology, considered a pseudo-science, to potentially be true. Here is the outline of the video:

    1. The solar system works cyclically, allowing for the reliable prediction of future events for example that the sun will rise tomorrow. Many aspects of the human condition also work cyclically, such a the life and death of generations of people, growth, learning, etc.

    2. For two things to be connected, there is no need for a direct connection. For example, Pavlov's dog expected food when the bell rang. The bell is not physically or otherwise connected to the food at all, yet the bell's ring worked perfectly as a predictor of food being made available. In scientific terms, this particular correlation is explained by a common cause (the experimenter).

    3. People are reluctant to acknowledge themselves as specks of dust living on a rock in the sky, and this detachment from our environment is the sort of attitude that leads to climate change denying - yet we are inextricably linked to our internal and external environment.

    Watch the rest here:

    Sure, the sun rises every morning at a predictable time, the moon waxes and wanes, etc. How does that help with predicting anything other than those things though? I mean, how does it lead to someone being able to advise about your love life or if you will get lucky at the casino next week?
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    Interestingly enough, Brexit was predicted by an Astrologer I follow. The polls suggested otherwise, and they were wrong.

    But I'm not so sure it's the Astrology itself that creates these results. I think studying Astrology and trying to make accurate predictions heightens your intuition and acts as sort of symbol-filled Rorschach test. There have been cases where an Astrologer was given a chart that was completely wrong, and still managed to predict the future correctly.
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    Astrology is remarkable. You see it or you don't. You have to go a lot deeper than some crappy newspaper column.
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    Even if it's true, have you ever considered the consequences of that truth? Should people really know their future? We need this thread to be more civil and more open. So what about the details and semantics? We should have a science section to discuss this further. Anyway, many disregard Astrology because it sounds impossible. But maybe it's for the better if we leave this one alone until we understand the universe a bit better.
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    (Original post by jeremy1988)
    Interestingly enough, Brexit was predicted by an Astrologer I follow. The polls suggested otherwise, and they were wrong.

    But I'm not so sure it's the Astrology itself that creates these results. I think studying Astrology and trying to make accurate predictions heightens your intuition and acts as sort of symbol-filled Rorschach test. There have been cases where an Astrologer was given a chart that was completely wrong, and still managed to predict the future correctly.
    It would be interesting to hear what those 'cases' are. There's the Rorschach Test of doing the astrology, but then there's the Rorschach Test of seeing what you want to see in the rambling vague interpretations that astrologers typically come out with.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    Because the gravitational waves from planets and the moon affect glands in our nervous system, which affect our emotions. The gravitational waves also affect the tides, and therefore affect humidity, which increases the electrostatic potential of the air, which causes ones electrical aura (from the electrical signals from neurons firing in your brain) to conduct through the air at different frequencies, having subtlety different affects on other humans, allowing the karmic energies to flow between people and adjust their mental states through quantum entanglement.
    I thought it was all down to causeless action at a distance, remote viewing and the action of peanut butter in causing peturbations in the earth's magnetic core and the aura cast by the magick lost kingdom of inner Tibet. (Shangri-lala).

    Any more for any more/
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    You forgot to squeeze the phrase "quantum" in there somewhere
    I was too entangled in my thoughts.

    Wait! I am detecting a quantum instability in the fabric of reality.

    We must urgently reverse the polarity of the neutron flow. Jupiter must be restored to the seventh circle. Etc.
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    http://astrologynewsservice.com/arti...in-plus-zones/

    One of the Gauquelin plus zones straddles what astrologers call the ascendant or rising sign on the birth chart’s eastern horizon. Another hugs what astronomers call the meridian plane and astrologers refer to as the midheaven. Traditionally, planets posited near these “angles” in a birth chart are believed to express their influence more powerfully in the individual’s life. Gauquelin had similar success correlating other professions with the planets traditionally identified with them. For example, Mars turned up in the plus zones for elite athletes, Saturn was there for scientists, the Moon for writers and Jupiter for actors and politicians. The significance level for some of these correlations was also in the millions to one chance level.
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    (Original post by Flying Cookie)
    :lol: For fun? For experiments?
    Both. I'm well into Astrology.
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    (Original post by Flying Cookie)
    Good evening all,

    I have found a framework of thought that can allow astrology, considered a pseudo-science, to potentially be true. Here is the outline of the video:

    1. The solar system works cyclically, allowing for the reliable prediction of future events for example that the sun will rise tomorrow. Many aspects of the human condition also work cyclically, such a the life and death of generations of people, growth, learning, etc.

    2. For two things to be connected, there is no need for a direct connection. For example, Pavlov's dog expected food when the bell rang. The bell is not physically or otherwise connected to the food at all, yet the bell's ring worked perfectly as a predictor of food being made available. In scientific terms, this particular correlation is explained by a common cause (the experimenter).

    3. People are reluctant to acknowledge themselves as specks of dust living on a rock in the sky, and this detachment from our environment is the sort of attitude that leads to climate change denying - yet we are inextricably linked to our internal and external environment.

    Watch the rest here:

    1 is completely wrong, no need to bother with the rest.
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    Sorry if this is a really superficial response, but I'm struggling to see where there would be room in physics for a mechanism that (for example) could affect how I should approach my social relationships today and also affect the cosmos in any meaningful, measurable way that would allow me to determine the former from the latter. :dontknow:
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    (Original post by Implication)
    Sorry if this is a really superficial response, but I'm struggling to see where there would be room in physics for a mechanism that (for example) could affect how I should approach my social relationships today and also affect the cosmos in any meaningful, measurable way that would allow me to determine the former from the latter. :dontknow:
    If you tell me that you are going to the seaside with a girl, merely by looking at the heavens I can tell you whether it is likely you will go for a moonlit stroll on the beach.

    And that is how astrology started.

    If I know the tide is in or the moon is new, I know you won't be going for a moonlit stroll on the beach.

    If I can tell Pharoah when the Nile will flood, Pharoah will ask me the most auspicious time to start building his pyramid.
 
 
 
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