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Someone who is pro-capitalism, pro constitution (optional), anit-multiculturalism, smaller government etc...


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Anti multiculturalism is absolutely counter to libertarianism. Why do you want to stop people living in immigrant communities and practising their culture both in their own home and the public space?

Libertarians are massive hypocrites: it's all "do what you want" when it benefits them, but as soon as you ask why squatters shouldn't be able to take over unused houses or why people can't hold socialist views or views from another culture or unite politically in their own self-interest it's all waah waah yes we do want strong government but only to protect property rights, secularism, low taxes and militarise the police.

Plus a lot of them believe in the absolute cultish *******s of the Austrian School which is more or less the modern version of the Catholic Magisterium and only gets an airing at all because so much money is poured into it by super rich neocon hawks
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What's wrong with being white supremacist in a white continent?
We'll save that argument for another time my friend. My opinion is that as long as it doesn't harm anyone, people should be allowed to think what they want regardless of how silly it is, IE Mormonism.

It's like suggesting that members of different ethnic groups have the same allegiance to their host nations and could easily become MPs and people in power. It's not going to happen. The US has this anti-racism white guilt setup which boosted Obama into power*, but it would never happen in Europe.

However, the fact that they simply served is testament to the multiracial society. Being white supremacist is one thing, but suggesting that the contributions of these ethnic minorities were less because of the colour of their skin, Davij, I think takes the biscuit.
I wasn't suggesting anything other than the fact that to the white supremacist Nazis the lives of these auxiliaries were not as valuable as their white soldiers.

Its like you saying how inhuman African slavery was in america and me going, "Hay those slaves made valuable contributions to America don't knock their hard work!"

To the Nazi's (like all authoritarians) the ends justifies the means.



*As per Obama- this is possibly as a result of how far behind the US was compared to Europe was in its treatment of blacks (also we didn't have anyway near the scale of slavery going on in the UK as in america)
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You are definitely on the right.

Unless you align with the moral opinions of the left, your attitude towards marriage, welfare, drugs etc.


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Marriage - An important institution, as is the family. However I don't really believe that marriage tax allowances are worth the bother in all honesty, just raise the personal tax allowance for everyone instead. I'm also in favour of gay marriage on the whole.

Welfare - In general I'm proud of the welfare system that this country provides. But we need to get the long term unemployed back to work. The only way this can happen is by giving the long term unemployed meaningful vocational training and experience. Cutting welfare won't magically get people to work, especially in areas of deprivation. I propose big tax breaks to the manufacturing sector in post-Industrial areas, on the condition they pay the living wage, to help get people back to work and get Britain exporting again. A big focus on vocational education from Key Stage 4 onwards will help ensure that the young have the skills to help them in the labour market and don't fall into the trap of long term unemployment. I believe that the welfare state should be there as a safety net, not as a way of life, but also importantly to help the most vulnerable in society, i.e. the disabled.

Drugs - I take a libertarian stance in that the state shouldn't dictate people's lifestyle choices. Decriminalise possession, possibly even legalise cannabis, Just a waste of public money treating it as a criminal matter. Rather focus on spending the money on bringing down the distributors and importers of drugs, and for treatment of those with addiction.


I think my support of the public sector and Keynesian economics probably puts me to the left more than anything else.
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(Original post by Davij038)

I wasn't suggesting anything other than the fact that to the white supremacist Nazis the lives of these auxiliaries were not as valuable as their white soldiers.

Its like you saying how inhuman African slavery was in america and me going, "Hay those slaves made valuable contributions to America don't knock their hard work!"

To the Nazi's (like all authoritarians) the ends justifies the means.



*As per Obama- this is possibly as a result of how far behind the US was compared to Europe was in its treatment of blacks (also we didn't have anyway near the scale of slavery going on in the UK as in america)
Affirmative action... Equal representation isn't an argument though- it could easily be that minorities felt content with white supremacy. This post disagrees with me quite horribly.
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Affirmative action... Equal representation isn't an argument though-
eh?

it could easily be that minorities felt content with white supremacy. .
I'd be willing to accept that. I have a friend from Zimbabwe who says that even now people in his country act subservient to white people there. But i'd say that's a result of colonialism.

I'd also point out that it seems dubious to me that you seemingly point out White people electing Obama out of 'white guilt' (presumably because they're brainwashed!) but it could 'easily be' that minorities would be content with being ruled by people who actively see them as sub humans.
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One-nation Conservative with libertarian leanings.
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eh?



I'd be willing to accept that. I have a friend from Zimbabwe who says that even now people in his country act subservient to white people there. But i'd say that's a result of colonialism.

I'd also point out that it seems dubious to me that you seemingly point out White people electing Obama out of 'white guilt' (presumably because they're brainwashed!) but it could 'easily be' that minorities would be content with being ruled by people who actively see them as sub humans.
I don't quite understand how you go from "White supremacy is the rule of the Caucasoid" to "White supremacy is the oppression of minorities and believe they are inferior".
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I don't quite understand how you go from "White supremacy is the rule of the Caucasoid" to "White supremacy is the oppression of minorities and believe they are inferior".
I didnt say they were oppressed as such, but white supremacy does sort of indicate the belief that whites are 'better'.
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I didnt say they were oppressed as such, but white supremacy does sort of indicate the belief that whites are 'better'.
You don't need an ideology to prove that, ahuehuehuehue.
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You don't need an ideology to prove that, ahuehuehuehue.
Cool story bro. Ever seen the Jeremy Kyle show?
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Cool story bro. Ever seen the Jeremy Kyle show?
British rule isn't what it used to be. There is no justice.
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British rule isn't what it used to be. There is no justice.
So what, if we had a powerful monarchy and brought back hanging we'd all be ubermensch?
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Read the road to serfdom and 1984
oh sure Dave, I'll just read a couple of works of fiction from your reading list, and convert overnight,lol:rolleyes:

but to keep you happy, today I have just bought a copy of 'The Liberal Party essentials' by Browne (Liberal MP for Taunton) , I'll let you know how that goes
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By the way, since everyone loves to claim Hitler was an evil right wing dictator, let me tell you that Nazi Germany was multiracial and indiscriminate at that. Like all Socialist states, they wanted good little workers. there are even pictures of black men working in the German army. Very progressive.
So why did he refer to black people as 'mungrels'? (Mein Kampf)
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British rule isn't what it used to be. There is no justice.
so I guess you're a BNP guy then?
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so I guess you're a BNP guy then?
I don't support national socialist parties. Pay attention. I want my aristocracy and family pride back.
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Not that i'd normally defend HM (he's much more socially conservative than myself) but i do think people have been unduly harsh on the last page. Personally i'm a western supremacist (because of cultural values rather than skin coulor) and while i do view the East Asians as our equals i do think our cultural values are far superior to those of the Middle East and Africa (the former is still barely able to govern itself). If HM is a white supremacist then good for him, he's doing no harm unless he wants to start castrating all non-whites.
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oh sure Dave, I'll just read a couple of works of fiction from your reading list, and convert overnight,lol:rolleyes:

but to keep you happy, today I have just bought a copy of 'The Liberal Party essentials' by Browne (Liberal MP for Taunton) , I'll let you know how that goes
Road to Serfdom isn't fiction.

And 1984 has real life parallels with how dictatorships work, north korean dissidents who have escaped have said it is practically non fiction to them.

I haven't read the Liberal party essentials, but I do know that Browne is considered to be the most right wing MP in the party.
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Not that i'd normally defend HM (he's much more socially conservative than myself) but i do think people have been unduly harsh on the last page.
How?

Personally i'm a western supremacist (because of cultural values rather than skin coulor) and while i do view the East Asians as our equals i do think our cultural values are far superior to those of the Middle East and Africa (the former is still barely able to govern itself).
Neither of them can govern themselves really. Although parts if Africa are doing well Ghana and Tunisia especially- but I hold that the great thing about western values (liberalism, secularism and capitalism) is their universality and can work broadly from South Korea to South Africa to Brazil to India. Western culture is in my mind global and simply gives people what they really want: freedom: without the government or the church getting in the way.


HM is a white supremacist then good for him, he's doing no harm unless he wants to start castrating all non-whites.
I accept he's probably well intentioned and harmless and also genuinely respect his right to say whatever he wants. But that doesn't mean I can't challenge him on his beliefs especially when most of it is "you're brainwashed to be white guilt ridden socialists, that must be why white people would vote for a black president", that's just as silly as what some Marxist feminist has to say on why atom bombs are shaped like phalluses.
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Nobody has the right to just exist. You earn your way in life lest you weigh down your relatives and become a burden. Not becoming a burden to your family because of healthcare socialism creates a breakdown in family bonds. You weaken those bonds, society collapses. Socialism is destroying society.
Absolutely true. It already has.
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