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    The Germans did not use any form of implicit communications or tacit agreement of international Jewish banker cabal, plans for sterilisation programmes, plans to confiscate the wealth of Jews and expel them, racial profiling and the need for a eugenics programme etc. Why would they feel the need to hide civilian killings if indeed that was what they were doing. There was no such thing as war crime or crime against humanity during the Second World War.

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    Plans to confiscate wealth or programmes of sterilisation are hardly in the same league as carrying out mass extermination.

    I have shown you the evidence above that the Nazis DID decide to obscure what they were doing in official documents, even those classified as top secret. What about it don't you understand?
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    The piles of bodies at Bergen-Belsen and the half dead prove extreme neglect and lack of duty of care given that this was at a time when resources were blocked and disease was rife. It does not however prove intent to murder.


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    Plans to confiscate wealth or programmes of sterilisation are hardly in the same league as carrying out mass extermination.

    I have shown you the evidence above that the Nazis DID decide to obscure what they were doing in official documents, even those classified as top secret. What about it don't you understand?
    The recording from Trent park were also useful.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trent_Park

    They also published an old enigma intercept relating to the holocaust.

    http://m.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/..._holocaust.pdf
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Reinhard

    I've yet to find a denier that can suitably explain why the surviving plans for the aischwitz 'shower block' required a gas proof door.

    Cycle of spin isn't a Mong. He understands it happened. He just wants to be confrontational. The truly sad thing is he doesn't realise how much oxygen he gives the truly frightening extreme right wing, and now extreme left wing, nutters out there by regurgitating this crap.

    Was there an auschwitz football team? Probably. Did they survive after their propaganda use had gone? Probably not.
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    How's the Oscar Groningtrial going.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar_Gröning

    You know, the SS guard from
    auschwitz who acknowledges what happened there.
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    Troll.
    No it's not trolling. The bodies that the soldiers found in the camps were dead from disease and starvation. Dr. Charles Larson, the U.S. Chief Forensic Pathologist was called into Germany to investigate this in 1945, and this is what he found after investigating 20 camps and performing dozens of autopsies.

    They made the famous video reel showing all of the carnage to use in Nuremberg to accuse the Nazi regime. The video reel is consistent with this scenario.


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    yes the holocaust happened, you idiot
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    (Original post by CycleofSpin)
    No it's not trolling. The bodies that the soldiers found in the camps were dead from disease and starvation. Dr. Charles Larson, the U.S. Chief Forensic Pathologist was called into Germany to investigate this in 1945, and this is what he found after investigating 20 camps and performing dozens of autopsies.

    They made the famous video reel showing all of the carnage to use in Nuremberg to accuse the Nazi regime. The video reel is consistent with this scenario.


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    AsI have pointed out before, Dr Larson did not visit camps wherethere hadbeen extensive gassing programs. He was confined to the US sector and the main death camps were in the east. You are deliberately trying to mislead. Again.
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    No it's not trolling. The bodies that the soldiers found in the camps were dead from disease and starvation. Dr. Charles Larson, the U.S. Chief Forensic Pathologist was called into Germany to investigate this in 1945, and this is what he found after investigating 20 camps and performing dozens of autopsies.

    They made the famous video reel showing all of the carnage to use in Nuremberg to accuse the Nazi regime. The video reel is consistent with this scenario.


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    I'm fully aware that the bodies found at Belsen died from starvation and disease. It wasn't a death camp. For you to imply it was death camp is misleading on your behalf.

    Even as a work camp however the treatment of the inmates was brutal and not defensible.

    You do realise there was a huge difference between a work camp and a death camp don't you.

    Did you know that the nazis executed 50,000 people by guillotine for political dissent as well. Hardly small numbers.

    Where did 5 million Jew go?
    Where did the gypsies go?
    Why did they build a gas proof shower at auschwitz birkenau?
    Why do you ignore first hand accounts of the guards who worked in these death camps?
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    I'm fully aware that the bodies found at Belsen died from starvation and disease. It wasn't a death camp. For you to imply it was death camp is misleading on your behalf.

    Even as a work camp however the treatment of the inmates was brutal and not defensible.

    You do realise there was a huge difference between a work camp and a death camp don't you.

    Did you know that the nazis executed 50,000 people by guillotine for political dissent as well. Hardly small numbers.

    Where did 5 million Jew go?
    Where did the gypsies go?
    Why did they build a gas proof shower at auschwitz birkenau?
    Why do you ignore first hand accounts of the guards who worked in these death camps?
    You are right. I have not examined the testimony of the guards.

    I just read an interview with a Jacob W. who worked at Auschwitz in the Herald Tribune liked below.

    http://www.iht.com/2014/08/29/an-auschwitz-guard-talks/

    Like most of these types of things, it's full of inconsistencies that any amateur detective could spot;

    "In the gas chambers, they saw the nozzles and thought they were going to take a shower. "

    The official story says that Zyklon B (which is actually for Typhus control) was thrown down hatches and he is referring to gas showers with nozzles which it follows in his story must be pumping natural gas.

    Then he says "Then they threw a can inside." So he reverts to the Zyklon B can story.


    "SPIEGEL: A huge fire of corpses?

    W.: It never went out. Day and night. You get used to everything."

    A pile of bodies does not burn because a body is mostly water.

    "One provision called for “absolute secrecy” to be maintained. "

    - is maintaining absolute secrecy consistent with Auschwitz having had a post office for the inmates to use?





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    You are right. I have not examined the testimony of the guards.

    I just read an interview with a Jacob W. who worked at Auschwitz in the Herald Tribune liked below.

    http://www.iht.com/2014/08/29/an-auschwitz-guard-talks/

    Like most of these types of things, it's full of inconsistencies that any amateur detective could spot;

    "In the gas chambers, they saw the nozzles and thought they were going to take a shower. "

    The official story says that Zyklon B (which is actually for Typhus control) was thrown down hatches and he is referring to gas showers with nozzles which it follows in his story must be pumping natural gas.

    Then he says "Then they threw a can inside." So he reverts to the Zyklon B can story.


    "SPIEGEL: A huge fire of corpses?

    W.: It never went out. Day and night. You get used to everything."

    A pile of bodies does not burn because a body is mostly water.

    "One provision called for “absolute secrecy” to be maintained. "

    - is maintaining absolute secrecy consistent with Auschwitz having had a post office for the inmates to use?





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    Why would he make it up?

    And you'll have to tell me what inconsistencies are in there.

    Rudolph Hoss wrote his memoirs about commanding the camp.

    You've yet toes plain where 6 million Jews dissapered to.

    You've ignored overwhelming evidence and picked up on trivia.

    This guy never denied what went on.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-Groening.html
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    Why would he make it up?

    And you'll have to tell me what inconsistencies are in there.

    Rudolph Hoss wrote his memoirs about commanding the camp.

    You've yet toes plain where 6 million Jews dissapered to.

    You've ignored overwhelming evidence and picked up on trivia.

    This guy never denied what went on.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-Groening.html
    I called out the inconsistencies. Jacob can't quite decide whether Auschwitz used gas showers of Zykon Z cans. He talks about a big fire from corpses burning en mass but you can't create bodies that way due to water content. He talks about an official need for absolute secrecy yet the officialdom put in a post office for camp inmates to uses

    I subsequently skimmed your Telegraph article and quote "Despite enduring Auschwitz, a slave camp" - so people can't quite make their minds up whether Auschwitz was a slave camp or a death camp.

    "and then a death march to Belsen" - why is she not dead? How can a "death march" have a destination in mind other than heaven or hell? Surely what they mean is harsh conditions.

    You say that I am picking up on trivial detail. I don't think that an alleged murder weapon and mode of killing is a trivial detail. In the Oscar Pistorius trial, the murder weapon, circumstances for pulling the trigger, direction of bullet, visibility factors and materials of the building were examined.

    It is forbidden to do any analysis in Auschwitz in this manner and German, Polish and Austrian authorities will jail people for this.

    So these facts could not have been satisfactorily established to the level that would convince a jury in a murder trial. Otherwise why would so called
    Star witnesses themselves featured in the Herald Tribune be in conflict with themselves even over these details?

    Now in response to your question "where did the missing n million go", first you need to establish who is missing from where and when and what is the objective basis for measurement? Without this information it's like asking you "Where did the missing 5 million in the Americas go yesterday." Your response would be "what missing 5 million."



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    I have met two concentration camp victims personally. One was a relative by marriage/ long term relationship, one who is still alive was at aushwitz and on the death march. I believe everything that they say happened to them.

    The Germans ran out of time as they were incapable of disposing of the bodies quickly enough so force marched the prisoners away from the advancing armies.

    Bodies do burn in large numbers once you get a pyre going, due to the fat content of the human bodies. Yes you need some fuel, but not as much as you think. Some people were cremated alive to save the cost of killing them, provided that they were too weak to fight back.

    As far as the shower / gas hatch one could say that a fake shower block could be built with shower heads not connected to anything. Then a hatch also used to chuck in gas? I honestly haven't looked into it. The walls have fingernail marks of people trying to claw their way out.

    "War crimes" is a modern term, but the Geneva convention was in force and prohibited civilaian deaths etc.

    Just out of interest, do the deniers insist that Cambodia didn't also suffer from "year zero"?

    It is amazing that some keyboard warrior who has "researched" on the Internet can be so gullible about major historical facts
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    You are right. I have not examined the testimony of the guards.

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    That doesn't surprise me. You don't have the intellectual courage to read serious history books on this topic as I have challenged you to do more than once - including on this thread. In contrast, I've read material from holotruth, the ihr and David Irving. At your suggestion I downloaded something called the Uncensored History of the 20th Century. It was hard to know which was more ridiculous - the document itself or your claim it should be given a Nobel prize!

    All you do is nitpick at individual, tiny pieces of evidence in the mistaken belief that if, for example, you can show that one survivor's testimony contains errors then ALL survivors are wrong. Sometimes you produce apparently solid evidence as you have done on this thread, but when I destroy its very essence you don't accept or even acknowledge that fact. I fully expect you to produce it in a future thread as if it were a revelation instead of absolutely worthless.
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    u absolute spaz, how could u not now?
    ^^^

    this is a succinct précis of what all decent people here have said.
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    this is a succinct précis of what all decent people here have said.
    yes. but i dont think this spaz knows what he is saying bruv
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    INTRODUCTION TO THE HOLOCAUSTTwo German Jewish families at a gathering before the war. Only two people in this group survived the Holocaust. Germany, 1928.— US Holocaust Memorial MuseumThe Holocaust was the systematic, bureaucratic, state-sponsored persecution and murder of six million Jews by the Nazi regime and its collaborators. "Holocaust" is a word of Greek origin meaning "sacrifice by fire." The Nazis, who came to power in Germany in January 1933, believed that Germans were "racially superior" and that the Jews, deemed "inferior," were an alien threat to the so-called German racial community.During the era of the Holocaust, German authorities also targeted other groups because of their perceived "racial inferiority": Roma (Gypsies), the disabled, and some of the Slavic peoples (Poles, Russians, and others). Other groups were persecuted on political, ideological, and behavioral grounds, among them Communists, Socialists, Jehovah's Witnesses, and homosexuals.WHAT WAS THE HOLOCAUST?

    In 1933, the Jewish population of Europestood at over nine million. Most European Jews lived in countries that Nazi Germany would occupy or influence during World War II. By 1945, the Germans and theircollaborators killed nearly two out of every three European Jews as part of the "Final Solution," the Nazi policy to murder the Jews of Europe. Although Jews, whom the Nazis deemed a priority danger to Germany, were the primary victims of Nazi racism, other victims included some 200,000 Roma (Gypsies). At least 200,000 mentally or physically disabled patients, mainly Germans, living in institutional settings, were murdered in the so-called Euthanasia Program.As Nazi tyranny spread across Europe, the Germans and their collaborators persecuted and murdered millions of other people. Between two and three million Soviet prisoners of war were murdered or died of starvation, disease, neglect, or maltreatment. The Germans targeted the non-Jewish Polish intelligentsia for killing, and deported millions of Polish and Soviet civilians forforced labor in Germany or in occupied Poland, where these individuals worked and often died under deplorable conditions. From the earliest years of the Nazi regime, German authorities persecuted homosexuals and others whose behavior did not match prescribed social norms. German police officials targeted thousands of political opponents (including Communists, Socialists, and trade unionists) and religious dissidents (such as Jehovah's Witnesses). Many of these individuals died as a result of incarceration and maltreatment.ADMINISTRATION OF THE "FINAL SOLUTION"

    In the early years of the Nazi regime, the National Socialist government established concentration camps to detain real and imagined political and ideological opponents. Increasingly in the years before the outbreak of war, SS and police officials incarcerated Jews, Roma, and other victims of ethnic and racial hatred in these camps. To concentrate and monitor the Jewish population as well as to facilitate later deportation of the Jews, the Germans and their collaborators created ghettos, transit camps, and forced-labor camps for Jews during the war years. The German authorities also established numerous forced-labor camps, both in the so-called Greater German Reich and in German-occupied territory, for non-Jews whose labor the Germans sought to exploit.Following the invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941,Einsatzgruppen (mobile killing units) and, later, militarized battalions of Order Police officials, moved behind German lines to carry out mass-murder operations against Jews, Roma, and Soviet state and Communist Party officials. German SS and police units, supported by units of the Wehrmacht and the Waffen SS, murdered more than a million Jewish men, women, and children, and hundreds of thousands of others. Between 1941 and 1944, Nazi German authorities deported millions of Jews from Germany, from occupied territories, and from the countries of many of its Axis allies to ghettos and to killing centers, often called extermination camps, where they were murdered in specially developed gassing facilities.THE END OF THE HOLOCAUST

    In the final months of the war, SS guards moved camp inmates by train or on forced marches, often called “death marches,” in an attempt to prevent the Allied liberation of large numbers of prisoners. As Allied forces moved across Europe in a series of offensives against Germany, they began to encounter and liberateconcentration camp prisoners, as well as prisoners en route by forced march from one camp to another. The marches continued until May 7, 1945, the day the German armed forces surrendered unconditionally to the Allies. For the western Allies, World War II officially ended in Europe on the next day, May 8 (V-E Day), while Soviet forces announced their “Victory Day” on May 9, 1945.In the aftermath of the Holocaust, many of the survivors found shelter in displaced persons (DP) camps administered by the Allied powers. Between 1948 and 1951, almost 700,000 Jews emigrated to Israel, including 136,000 Jewish displaced persons from Europe. Other Jewish DPs emigrated to the United States and other nations. The last DP camp closed in 1957. The crimes committed during the Holocaust devastated most European Jewish communities and eliminated hundreds of Jewish communities in occupied eastern Europe entirely.Further ReadingBergen, Doris. War & Genocide: A Concise History of the Holocaust. Lanham, MD: Rowman & Littlefield, 2003Dawidowicz, Lucy S. The War Against the Jews, 1933-1945. New York: Holt, Rinehart, and Winston, 1975.Gilbert, Martin. The Holocaust: A History of the Jews of Europe During the Second World War. New York: Holt, Rinehart, and Winston, 1986.Gutman, Israel, editor. Encyclopedia of the Holocaust. New York: Macmillan Publishing Company, 1990.Hilberg, Raul. The Destruction of the European Jews. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 2003.Yahil, Leni. The Holocaust: The Fate of European Jewry, 1932-1945. New York: Oxford University Press, 1990.RELATED ARTICLESRELATED LINKSCopyright © United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, Washington, DCENCYCLOPEDIA LAST UPDATED: JUNE 20, 2014This page is also available in:
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    I called out the inconsistencies. Jacob can't quite decide whether Auschwitz used gas showers of Zykon Z cans. He talks about a big fire from corpses burning en mass but you can't create bodies that way due to water content. He talks about an official need for absolute secrecy yet the officialdom put in a post office for camp inmates to uses

    I subsequently skimmed your Telegraph article and quote "Despite enduring Auschwitz, a slave camp" - so people can't quite make their minds up whether Auschwitz was a slave camp or a death camp.

    "and then a death march to Belsen" - why is she not dead? How can a "death march" have a destination in mind other than heaven or hell? Surely what they mean is harsh conditions.

    You say that I am picking up on trivial detail. I don't think that an alleged murder weapon and mode of killing is a trivial detail. In the Oscar Pistorius trial, the murder weapon, circumstances for pulling the trigger, direction of bullet, visibility factors and materials of the building were examined.

    It is forbidden to do any analysis in Auschwitz in this manner and German, Polish and Austrian authorities will jail people for this.

    So these facts could not have been satisfactorily established to the level that would convince a jury in a murder trial. Otherwise why would so called
    Star witnesses themselves featured in the Herald Tribune be in conflict with themselves even over these details?

    Now in response to your question "where did the missing n million go", first you need to establish who is missing from where and when and what is the objective basis for measurement? Without this information it's like asking you "Where did the missing 5 million in the Americas go yesterday." Your response would be "what missing 5 million."



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    So there's inconsistencies in terminology. I have a debate today about calling something a sprocket and my co worker called it a thingamybob.

    We do know the shower rooms had to be gas proof though as the plans still exist. Why would somebody design a gas proof shower room?

    It isn't illegal to research te holocaust in germanybor Austria. To say it is illegal is blatantly lying.

    There were 6 million less Jews in Europe at the end of WW2 than the start. Where did they go to?

    Where did the gypsies go to?

    Where did the disabled go?

    Where did a couple of million Russian prisoners of war go?

    Why would so many prison guards make up what happened?

    Why would so many eye witnesses make up what happened?

    Why would the allied powers make up what happened?

    Why do you tacitly agree with the holocaust happening in the first place?
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    So there's inconsistencies in terminology. I have a debate today about calling something a sprocket and my co worker called it a thingamybob.

    We do know the shower rooms had to be gas proof though as the plans still exist. Why would somebody design a gas proof shower room?

    It isn't illegal to research te holocaust in germanybor Austria. To say it is illegal is blatantly lying.

    There were 6 million less Jews in Europe at the end of WW2 than the start. Where did they go to?

    Where did the gypsies go to?

    Where did the disabled go?

    Where did a couple of million Russian prisoners of war go?

    Why would so many prison guards make up what happened?

    Why would so many eye witnesses make up what happened?

    Why would the allied powers make up what happened?

    Why do you tacitly agree with the holocaust happening in the first place?
    Sprocket and thingamybob may be simply terminology but gas showers versus Zyklon B cans throw down hatches is not a terminology thing. It's a reference to two different murder weapons.

    In a court case of a witness referred to a gun as "a piece" the inference is clearly that the item in question is a gun. If there is doubt however about whether the murder weapon is a gun or a land-mine, it raises a need for the prosecution to clarify the issue. If the prosecution witnesses were in contradiction about this, it would raise some serious questions.


    There is a lot of doubt about the authenticity of the newly discovered Auschwitz blueprints. See:

    http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...-camp-1.256943

    It's not illegal to research the Holocaust in Germany or Austria unless you find a significant variation of the story which substantially reduces the nature and scale in which case it's illegal.

    With regards to the question you ask about where people went, what is the objective basis for claims that there are missing people?

    The allied powers make a lot of things up especially with regards to war propaganda. The allied powers recently claimed that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

    I do not support a system of concentration camps, or the torture or killing of civilians. However I said this given the rabid ideological face offs in the 20th century I understand the motivation for countries having to resort to a system of mass incarceration.



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    INTRODUCTION TO THE HOLOCAUSTTwo German Jewish families at a gathering before the war. Only two people in this group survived the Holocaust. Germany, 1928.— US Holocaust Memorial MuseumThe Holocaust was the systematic, bureaucratic, state-sponsored persecution and murder of six million Jews by the Nazi regime and its collaborators. "Holocaust" is a word of Greek origin meaning "sacrifice by fire." The Nazis, who came to power in Germany in January 1933, believed that Germans were "racially superior" and that the Jews, deemed "inferior," were an alien threat to the so-called German racial community.During the era of the Holocaust, German authorities also targeted other groups because of their perceived "racial inferiority": Roma (Gypsies), the disabled, and some of the Slavic peoples (Poles, Russians, and others). Other groups were persecuted on political, ideological, and behavioral grounds, among them Communists, Socialists, Jehovah's Witnesses, and homosexuals.WHAT WAS THE HOLOCAUST?

    In 1933, the Jewish population of Europestood at over nine million. Most European Jews lived in countries that Nazi Germany would occupy or influence during World War II. By 1945, the Germans and theircollaborators killed nearly two out of every three European Jews as part of the "Final Solution," the Nazi policy to murder the Jews of Europe. Although Jews, whom the Nazis deemed a priority danger to Germany, were the primary victims of Nazi racism, other victims included some 200,000 Roma (Gypsies). At least 200,000 mentally or physically disabled patients, mainly Germans, living in institutional settings, were murdered in the so-called Euthanasia Program.As Nazi tyranny spread across Europe, the Germans and their collaborators persecuted and murdered millions of other people. Between two and three million Soviet prisoners of war were murdered or died of starvation, disease, neglect, or maltreatment. The Germans targeted the non-Jewish Polish intelligentsia for killing, and deported millions of Polish and Soviet civilians forforced labor in Germany or in occupied Poland, where these individuals worked and often died under deplorable conditions. From the earliest years of the Nazi regime, German authorities persecuted homosexuals and others whose behavior did not match prescribed social norms. German police officials targeted thousands of political opponents (including Communists, Socialists, and trade unionists) and religious dissidents (such as Jehovah's Witnesses). Many of these individuals died as a result of incarceration and maltreatment.ADMINISTRATION OF THE "FINAL SOLUTION"

    In the early years of the Nazi regime, the National Socialist government established concentration camps to detain real and imagined political and ideological opponents. Increasingly in the years before the outbreak of war, SS and police officials incarcerated Jews, Roma, and other victims of ethnic and racial hatred in these camps. To concentrate and monitor the Jewish population as well as to facilitate later deportation of the Jews, the Germans and their collaborators created ghettos, transit camps, and forced-labor camps for Jews during the war years. The German authorities also established numerous forced-labor camps, both in the so-called Greater German Reich and in German-occupied territory, for non-Jews whose labor the Germans sought to exploit.Following the invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941,Einsatzgruppen (mobile killing units) and, later, militarized battalions of Order Police officials, moved behind German lines to carry out mass-murder operations against Jews, Roma, and Soviet state and Communist Party officials. German SS and police units, supported by units of the Wehrmacht and the Waffen SS, murdered more than a million Jewish men, women, and children, and hundreds of thousands of others. Between 1941 and 1944, Nazi German authorities deported millions of Jews from Germany, from occupied territories, and from the countries of many of its Axis allies to ghettos and to killing centers, often called extermination camps, where they were murdered in specially developed gassing facilities.THE END OF THE HOLOCAUST

    In the final months of the war, SS guards moved camp inmates by train or on forced marches, often called “death marches,” in an attempt to prevent the Allied liberation of large numbers of prisoners. As Allied forces moved across Europe in a series of offensives against Germany, they began to encounter and liberateconcentration camp prisoners, as well as prisoners en route by forced march from one camp to another. The marches continued until May 7, 1945, the day the German armed forces surrendered unconditionally to the Allies. For the western Allies, World War II officially ended in Europe on the next day, May 8 (V-E Day), while Soviet forces announced their “Victory Day” on May 9, 1945.In the aftermath of the Holocaust, many of the survivors found shelter in displaced persons (DP) camps administered by the Allied powers. Between 1948 and 1951, almost 700,000 Jews emigrated to Israel, including 136,000 Jewish displaced persons from Europe. Other Jewish DPs emigrated to the United States and other nations. The last DP camp closed in 1957. The crimes committed during the Holocaust devastated most European Jewish communities and eliminated hundreds of Jewish communities in occupied eastern Europe entirely.Further ReadingBergen, Doris. War & Genocide: A Concise History of the Holocaust. Lanham, MD: Rowman & Littlefield, 2003Dawidowicz, Lucy S. The War Against the Jews, 1933-1945. New York: Holt, Rinehart, and Winston, 1975.Gilbert, Martin. The Holocaust: A History of the Jews of Europe During the Second World War. New York: Holt, Rinehart, and Winston, 1986.Gutman, Israel, editor. Encyclopedia of the Holocaust. New York: Macmillan Publishing Company, 1990.Hilberg, Raul. The Destruction of the European Jews. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 2003.Yahil, Leni. The Holocaust: The Fate of European Jewry, 1932-1945. New York: Oxford University Press, 1990.RELATED ARTICLESRELATED LINKSCopyright © United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, Washington, DCENCYCLOPEDIA LAST UPDATED: JUNE 20, 2014This page is also available in:
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    Two Jewish families is anecdotal evidence.

    For politically correct causes, non-standardised anecdotal evidence is acceptable. But for non-politically correct causes it's "not representative" and even if standardised and objective "it's a generalisation" and therefor somehow not valid.




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