Why do feminists say 'teach men not to rape'?

True and smalltowngirl explained it better than me as well.

you honestly think telling a potential rapist 'not to rape' is going to actually have any effect? thats very naive.

Yes, there is so much more to your mentality. You are easy pray for prejudice thoughts.

Well any time a TSR user sees the word "feminist" their IQ immediately drops about 40 points, so to be honest both of you used too many long words to get through to anyone ITT.

Maybe try rephrasing your post in the form of a colouring book.



Read the posts I quoted.

This

http://health.usnews.com/health-news/articles/2015/06/10/anti-rape-program-halved-number-of-campus-assaults-study

Because most feminists believe every male has an instinctive desire to rape.
Funny how in most female rape cases the sentence is not nearly as long.

Most of the rapes happen within the family. They're committed by uncles, cousins, godfathers, dad's friends, etc. In these cases, the notion of consent is irrelevant because the victims couldn't consent anyway, and the rapists didn't care about consent. I think that only a very small amount of rapes could be avoided by "teaching men not to rape".

I think you're mistaking it with child sex offences.

Still count as rapes.

Believe it or not, most rapists aren't evil psychopaths that everyone paints them to be purely because it's an easier concept to deal with. It's not that black and white. Most of them are just normal people who did a horrible thing, many feel remorse and guilt.

Somewhere is their lives they went the wrong way, their morals became skewed ect. There are many factors that can lead someone to rape.

It's important for us as a society to not only understand how this happens, but also to help prevent this.

Edit: for the easily emotionally charged and those who overreact. No, I'm not saying that rapists aren't accountable for their own actions. Stop jumping to conclusions.

Plenty of people without mental health issues commit violent crime, and plenty of people with them (e.g. me) wouldn't hurt a fly.

If 20% of women will be raped over their reproductive life that is one in 150 women raped per year, your statistic is hardly more impressive.

Plus I am pretty sure that 20% statistic is calculated on questionnaires that ask about any unsolicited sexual contact, including groping, kissing or I wouldn't be surprised if they are even worded in such a way as to encourage women to cite verbal harassment. Of course this is labelled "rape" in the subsequent analysis and in the media in the fine feminist tradition of statistical rigour and caution.

Why are you talking about mental health problems? The post you replied to doesn't mention mental illness. What you are doing is actually what you're arguing against - someone who has a mental illness that caused them to commit a crime is not legally responsible for that crime. Whilst also suggesting that people with mental health problems are dangerous.

Many rapes happen because people don't understand what isn't consent. There's a lack of understand that saying 'yes' due to coercion or pressure isn't consent. People don't seem to understand that a lack of a 'no' doesn't mean a 'yes'. People think that having had sex with someone before means that you have consent to have sex with them again. People believe that if they pay for someone's dinner they 'deserve sex'. That sex is something they've 'earned' after a certain length of relationship. That is the person they're in a relationship with doesn't want sex for whatever reason that that person is 'withholding' or 'denying them' sex.

'Trivializes.' Always the sort of word one expects from an emotional fool since it carries so little meaning and yet provides the perfect excuse to be offended. Don't have a go at SophieSmall for making a valid point (which, after you've failed to prove it incorrect, is now 'irrelevant' just because you're determined to take offence.

Also, let's not make stupid predictions of the sort you've made with '20 percent of all women will be raped.'

It is completely irrelevant in regards to OP's question though

OP asked why feminists say teach men not to rape, not her opinion on the best solution to do so (which by the way, she has not provided any proof for, and until she does, I'm not going to discuss it further).

And oh, the 20% of all women will be raped statement is supported by several statistics, but go on, keep being uneducated.

Relevant or not, my point is that your original complaint was that it was incorrect, not that it was irrelevant. You've abandoned that line of inquiry, ostensibly because you realised you were in the wrong but, not wanting to concede that, you instead changed tack and accused her of making an irrelevant point. And that sort of thing stinks awfully of 'looking to make absolutely anything stick.'



What, that not all rapists are psychopaths? I don't see what's unreasonable about that claim. Unfortunately, very few arguments can be legitimately won by emotion. You may feel that rape is such an abhorrent crime that its perpetrators ought to be considered psychopathic by default, but that's no reason to accuse anybody making a valid suggestion of being an apologist for rape, which you've tried to do in your ultimately unsuccessful attempt at derailing the argument. I have little patience for people who do that on threads discussing controversial topics.



Unoriginal ad hominem. 0/10.

Provide the statistics and I'll concede the point if necessary. It will be interesting to see a statistic that can actually predict the future so definitively. I think it more likely that you read a sensationalist headline on a newspaper website and are now quoting it as indisputable fact. At least give us the opportunity to dispute it by providing a link.

Elizah, i sincerely hope you're a troll account

Rape is and always has been considered the second most heinous crime it is possible to commit against the person after murder. Even then half the time there is more sympathy for for example women raped by militiamen in the Congo than their husbands who got a bayonet in the neck.