Hey there! Sign in to join this conversationNew here? Join for free
x Turn on thread page Beta

Have you ever met someone cleverer than yourself? watch

Announcements
    Offline

    17
    ReputationRep:
    All the time, in as much as "intelligence" is a thing (as opposed to "hard work over long periods of time"). Like, seriously, every day.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    yes
    Offline

    19
    ReputationRep:
    Yes, obviously. What a stupid discussion, OP.
    Offline

    17
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Awesome Genius)
    It's wrong to think that someone does badly just because they don't put work in lol

    It might be true at GCSE level but when you're talking about Oxbridge, it's different.

    It's generally true that if you put more work in then you do better but it's not that straight forward.

    Some of the people I knew worked very hard, did way more rote learning and revision than me and got a 2:1 whereas I got a first.
    OK, let's go over some of the problems here:

    1) "Hard work" =/= "rote memorisation". The proof of Fermat's Last Theorem involved a vast amount of hard work, none of which was rote memorisation.
    2) There do not exist people for whom hard work is unnecessary to work in any area at a high level. At all. They do not, and have never, existed. At every level, in every discipline, hard work beats "talent" any day of the week. Just ask Terrance Tao.
    3) Getting a first from oxbridge isn't as impressive as you seem to think it is. Come back when you've done a PhD, or otherwise actually contributed something to the world, without working hard, and we'll talk.
    Offline

    20
    ReputationRep:
    Yes, every day, all the time.

    (Original post by BlueSam3)

    2) There do not exist people for whom hard work is unnecessary to work in any area at a high level. At all. They do not, and have never, existed. At every level, in every discipline, hard work beats "talent" any day of the week. Just ask Terrance Tao.
    While Awesome Genius may be talking a lot of nonsense in this thread, at Oxbridge, I'd say natural intelligence is probably more important than how hard you work in terms of exam performance.

    Most people in Oxbridge work reasonably hard. In my experience (others may disagree), most of the variation in exam performance is due to natural intelligence. For any given individual, of course working hard will help them to improve their own marks.
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    Swings and roundabouts isn't it?

    I mean it's a trite example but;

    You get two guys, one's a total genius but a social retard,
    the other's a pretty mediocre student but...pure Alpha.

    Who's the 'cleverest'?
    Depends on the question?

    So yeah, by that token everybody I meet is almost guaranteed to be cleverer than me at loads of things...
    Offline

    11
    ReputationRep:
    Really depends on the subject.

    I would say that 80% of men I know are more clever than me at understanding sports, driving cars, pleasuring themselves, picking the right beer, and using tools. I have very little knowledge of those areas.

    Conversely, I would say that only 15% of the people I know are more clever than me when it comes to Computers and JRPGs. Only about 10% of the people I meet have a better command of grammar and punctuation than I do.

    About 40% of people seem to have better social skills, which are at least partly learned. It is arguable that they're more clever than me in this way.

    I don't know the percentage on this one, but a lot of people took a foreign language all four years in High School. They probably know more languages than me, and are thus more clever than me at speaking French, Spanish, or Chinese. While I am more clever than them at reading Latin, because that's the only other language I've seriously tried to learn. LOL.

    You get the point though, right? Most people are only intelligent in a few areas, and are average or below average in the areas that don't interest them.
    Offline

    3
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Awesome Genius)
    It's hard to accept that someone else can be more intelligent than you, isn't it?

    It's happened twice to me. An Oxford neurosciences professor and one of my friends from school that I still keep in touch with - he became an academic.

    Both were males. Haven't found any females I'd say were as smart as me, yet.
    Male academics for me as well.
    Offline

    19
    ReputationRep:
    Yes, ofc. (Do people online count)
    Offline

    12
    ReputationRep:
    Mirror mirror on the wall... Who's the smartest of them all?
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    At Cambridge there's scarcely a day where I don't meet someone smarter than myself...

    But if I have to pick one person: ILovePancakes is extremely intelligent
    Offline

    20
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Anon_98)
    Yes, ofc. (Do people online count)
    I'm really not :lol: But...
    Spoiler:
    Show
    :hugs:
    Offline

    3
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Illiberal Liberal)
    At Cambridge there's scarcely a day where I don't meet someone smarter than myself...

    But if I have to pick one person: ILovePancakes is extremely intelligent
    Offline

    19
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by callum_law)
    X
    How did you get reps for that post...

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    Offline

    3
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Anon_98)
    How did you get reps for that post...

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    It was funny.
    Offline

    19
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by callum_law)
    It was funny.
    I didn't understand the joke.. but okay, I just repped it for you too then. :rofl:

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Anon_98)
    Yes, ofc. (Do people online count)
    You're really too kind.
    I appreciate the compliment. :mmm:
    Offline

    17
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Illiberal Liberal)
    At Cambridge there's scarcely a day where I don't meet someone smarter than myself...

    But if I have to pick one person: ILovePancakes is extremely intelligent
    :lovehug:

    Even if not true, made me feel better.

    (Original post by callum_law)
    Lol **** off. We speak 24/7. He's just making me feel better about my **** day.
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    Worth remembering, one truly compassionate person is still worth more than all the clever clogs.......
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by ILovePancakes)
    :lovehug:

    Even if not true, made me feel better.
    :jumphug:
 
 
 
Poll
Do I go to The Streets tomorrow night?
Useful resources
AtCTs

Ask the Community Team

Got a question about the site content or our moderation? Ask here.

Welcome Lounge

Welcome Lounge

We're a friendly bunch. Post here if you're new to TSR.

Groups associated with this forum:

View associated groups

The Student Room, Get Revising and Marked by Teachers are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd.

Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: International House, Queens Road, Brighton, BN1 3XE

Write a reply...
Reply
Hide
Reputation gems: You get these gems as you gain rep from other members for making good contributions and giving helpful advice.