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    (Original post by TrotskyiteRebel)
    How much do you think I care about what you are?
    Enough to comment.
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    (Original post by chelseafreak)
    if you do support equalitarian's why do you focus on the female part of it. everyone deserves equality regards of gender, religion, skin colour, orientation etc. but feminism doesn't seem to understand that all the time and just seems to want women to be superior. well thats how i see it anyway
    Then you're misinformed.
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    (Original post by jeremy1988)
    So, do you consider the gender identity of transgendered men and women to be legitimate? I've heard that there's a school of feminism that views transgendered women as spies for the patriarchy rather than real women.

    I'm sorry about asking all these tough questions, but you did say that you were a radical feminist, and if you go far enough into the extremes of the feminist movement, you can find a lot of things that most feminists wouldn't agree with.
    Well, that's called Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminism (TERF). If I was a TERF, there'd be a hell of a lot of cognitive dissonance there, lol.
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    (Original post by ItsLyanna)
    Then you're misinformed.
    in my experience that is what most feminist want. i support equalitarians since they don't focus sorely on the female issue. the only real problem i have with pushing for equality is that it shouldn't need to be fought for to begin with.
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    (Original post by ItsLyanna)
    Well, that's called Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminism (TERF). If I was a TERF, there'd be a hell of a lot of cognitive dissonance there, lol.
    Yeah, that's good. I always thought that TERF was a bit intolerant/harsh given what transgender people experience.

    Anyway, so far you seem to be mostly a typical feminist. Where do your beliefs differ from mainstream feminism that simply promotes equal rights for women and dismantling patriarchal systems? What do you believe in that goes beyond conventional feminism, exactly?
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    (Original post by chelseafreak)
    in my experience that is what most feminist want. i support equalitarians since they don't focus sorely on the female issue. the only real problem i have with pushing for equality is that it shouldn't need to be fought for to begin with.
    ? No one is ever equal- hence movements ?
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    (Original post by ItsLyanna)
    Because they only benefit one half of the population.
    How so? Tbh, I think it is somewhat inevitable given the differences between men and women and the choices they uniquely make. I've never seen examples of successful matriarchal societies or contemporary governments where there is a 50% gender split without discriminatory quotas.

    Because of toxic masculinity. The patriarchy affects men as well.
    I'm a bit confused by the term "toxic masculinity". Are you saying that it is due to their masculinity that men kill themselves more often and are the most homeless? I disagree. There are a number of feminists who constantly perpetuate the idea of female-victimhood and I argue that the reason for these discrepancies is due to a lack of support services for men as women are constantly presented as being victims as previously stated.

    I see any forced sexual activity as rape or sexual assault, so... You're putting words in my mouth.
    Not really, I was asking for your view of the issue. I'm not assuming any personal views held by yourself.

    [citation needed]
    For false rape claims?

    I supported one of those. Guess which one.
    I'm not sure.
    I've seen justifications for both.

    Not much, really. Why?
    I was just curious.

    Not entirely, but partly. For both.
    Fair enough!
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    (Original post by Forget that)
    ? No one is ever equal- hence movements ?
    what will happen when there is equality, when the world is exactly the way feminist want it, what will be said about those who still don't think its fair? how do you protect the ideals of this movement from the next one?
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    (Original post by chelseafreak)
    what will happen when there is equality, when the world is exactly the way feminist want it, what will be said about those who still don't think its fair? how do you protect the ideals of this movement from the next one?
    The world will never be equal- equality is futile. When the world is equal and people are not judged by their gender, race, sexual orientation, I will call myself an equaliterian when we are all equal. As Orwell has said, all animals are equal- but some are more equal than others
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    (Original post by RiotGirll)
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    The change wasn't any better. You're now just ableist rather than homophobic.
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    (Original post by SmallTownGirl)
    The change wasn't any better. You're now just ableist rather than homophobic.
    What can you say?
    Biggots gonna biggot.😔
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    (Original post by ItsLyanna)
    Well, it assumes that women are required to like guys for doing good things, which is not true. People are attracted to people for any number of reasons. It's basically the ideology of The Red Pill, which is disgusting and misogynistic.
    What is the red pill ideology?
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    (Original post by i<3milkshake)
    What is the red pill ideology?
    Just visit TheRedPill on reddit to see what I mean.
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    (Original post by ItsLyanna)
    Just visit TheRedPill on reddit to see what I mean.
    It reads like some of the body builder try hards on here come across. Weirdos.
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    (Original post by keromedic)
    How so? Tbh, I think it is somewhat inevitable given the differences between men and women and the choices they uniquely make. I've never seen examples of successful matriarchal societies or contemporary governments where there is a 50% gender split without discriminatory quotas.
    Look up Justin Trudeau's cabinet. That is all.

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    I'm a bit confused by the term "toxic masculinity". Are you saying that it is due to their masculinity that men kill themselves more often and are the most homeless? I disagree. There are a number of feminists who constantly perpetuate the idea of female-victimhood and I argue that the reason for these discrepancies is due to a lack of support services for men as women are constantly presented as being victims as previously stated.
    No, it's due to the expectations from men due to the ideals of masculinity - such as not expressing emotions.

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    For false rape claims?
    For most rape claims at universities being false.
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    (Original post by ItsLyanna)
    they [patriarchal societies] only benefit one half of the population.

    Because of toxic masculinity. The patriarchy affects men as well.
    edit: This post got way too long so apologies

    I'm assuming you mean here that patriarchy affects men in a negative way as well. I have never seen compelling evidence for the existence of patriarchy in modern Western society, but for the moment I'll work under the assumption it exists now (and that it existed in the past).

    So you are claiming that patriarchy negatively affects women and men, but only benefits men. I believe I'm right in assuming that you consider patriarchy to be responsible for making people view masculinity as strength and femininity as weakness. So, as a consequence of the patriarchy, women have not been drafted into wars, so millions of women avoided violent and early deaths. I'd say that's quite the benefit.

    I hope you'll agree that if a man attacks a woman in a public place, she is certain to be protected by those around her, because it is assumed that the women is weaker and more vulnerable. But in general nobody is going to care about a woman attacking a man. Does she not benefit from the patriarchal assumption?

    Women are assumed to be better caregivers, so are more likely to be given custody over their children in cases of divorce (by the way I realise the lack of concrete statistics in this post but I don't think these are issues of contention really) Again, you can say this is a consequence of patriarchy, that it is symptomatic of people seeing mothering as the sole purpose of the female, in contrast to the man who is given much more freedom, but how does it not benefit the woman (assuming she wants custody rights since she is fighting for them)?

    A woman can rape (well, not according to the law, although I see you disagree with that) a man and get an extremely lenient sentence if any at all. I'd say she has been benefited by the patriarchy, if we believe it is indeed the patriarchy that makes people assume men want sex all the time and that sexual assault by a woman cannot possibly be traumatic for men. This one seems hardest of all to explain away by a negative view of femininity; all I can come up with is that weakness implies passivity, and strength implies activity or rather the whole "men act, women are acted upon" thing. A women cannot act on a man by the patriarchy, so she cannot rape him.

    If a girl or woman is upset, she is hardly likely be told to "man up"; she is probably going to be listened to and given sympathy, because she is according to patriarchy vulnerable and in needing of protection. Seems quite beneficial to me.

    I understand that you can ascribe all this stuff to a negative societal view of femininity. But you can equally ascribe all this stuff to a negative view of masculinity and a positive view of femininity, to a "matriarchy" if you will.

    Matriarchy views women as valuable and men as disposable, hence why men have been drafted into wars to die in their millions. For the same reason we can see why a woman attacking a man is laughable, but a man attacking a woman must be stopped.

    Females are seen to possess the positive characteristics of being nurturing and loving, while males are seen to possess the negative characteristics of being aggressive and dangerous, hence why women are more likely to be given custody rights.

    Women generally have the positive characteristic of being sexually selective and so it is a great violation for a women to be sexually assaulted, but men have the negative characteristic of being sexually indiscriminate as well as being disposable objects of women's pleasure, so a woman sexually assaulting a man does not matter or is even something to poke fun at.

    A man's role is to protect the valuable women around him; he is akin to a servile guard dog. You don't want your guard dog having an emotional crisis; you have to make sure it has nothing but aggression. Hence why men are told to man up and women are given sympathy. (I realise this point is a little flawed: I have just applied "patriarchal" reasoning in that saying emotional crises are negative. But this is tempered by the fact that I am only saying that this is so for servile creatures, not as a general rule)

    Obviously that is in general ridiculous, (bolding to try and stop anyone missing the fact that those aren't my actual views since this is such a long post) right? So is, in my view, patriarchy theory. There is no one gender oppressing the other; we are all victim to stereotypes and expectations, that to be honest form partly as a consequence of biology (women are usually weaker than men physically for instance, so they are more vulnerable in general, while men are less empathetic than women usually, so they are less good at being nurturing and tending to the emotional needs of others in general). Everyone, to some extent, lumps everyone else into categories based on every little and every big thing; it is how we form a cohesive, if very flawed, worldview. Different groups of people face different stereotypes and different problems, but we all face problems. Some people face worse hardships than others. Life is not fair, but this cannot be explained by something as simplistic and lacking in evidence as "patriarchy".
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    (Original post by ItsLyanna)
    It's more just a certain version of that, with a specific ideology (the patriarchy).
    still confused, Im prety sure what i said is feminism since i consider myself a feminist, don't more specific ideology s only come into place in fractions or feminists. also im pretty sure what i said already goes against the patriarchy?
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    I'm a sexist to some extent, what do u wanna say to me?
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    (Original post by cheimcallyginger)
    still confused, Im prety sure what i said is feminism since i consider myself a feminist, don't more specific ideology s only come into place in fractions or feminists. also im pretty sure what i said already goes against the patriarchy?
    Being a feminist requires a belief in the patriarchy, in my opinion.
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    (Original post by QuantizedLY)
    I'm a sexist to some extent, what do u wanna say to me?
    Why?
 
 
 
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