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MHoC - Kinsey Scale watch

  • View Poll Results: Select your Kinsey Scale rank
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    I edited my post to explain it,but I will explain a bit more.

    Basically, I like having a romantic relationship, but I am not in it solely for sex. It doesn't matter to me if I have sex or not. It's more for affection, intimacy and companionship. I have some very odd views on sex and don't believe you necessarily need it in order to have a brilliant relationship.
    I imagine that probably makes life an awful lot less complicated.
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    (Original post by Kittiara)
    I do experience physical attraction, and can quite enjoy that side to a relationship, but perhaps not as strongly as others, as it is not an absolute necessity for me. I agree that affection, intimacy and companionship are a lot more important.
    Completely agree.
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    (Original post by thehistorybore)
    I imagine that probably makes life an awful lot less complicated.
    Yes, and I'm really lucky that I've found someone who gets it.
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    I edited my post to explain it,but I will explain a bit more.

    Basically, I like having a romantic relationship, but I am not in it solely for sex. It doesn't matter to me if I have sex or not. It's more for affection, intimacy and companionship. I have some very odd views on sex and don't believe you necessarily need it in order to have a brilliant relationship.
    Soooo, you're not an X. The scale is about relationships, not sex.
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    Yes, and I'm really lucky that I've found someone who gets it.
    Well thats great! In all honesty I'm not a person who does relationships well.
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    This is a complete fail. How do we know if this is representative of MHoC members when the results are anonymous and everyone can vote? What's the point of holding it in the MHoC forum, then?!
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Soooo, you're not an X. The scale is about relationships, not sex.
    No, the scale is about sex.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Soooo, you're not an X. The scale is about relationships, not sex.
    I am still an X.

    (Original post by thehistorybore)
    Well thats great! In all honesty I'm not a person who does relationships well.
    I am rubbish at relationships, trust me. I **** them up so much.
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    I am rubbish at relationships, trust me. I **** them up so much.
    Cold *******s unite!
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    (Original post by thehistorybore)
    Cold b******s unite!
    Few too many asterixes... But you know that that word isn't swear filtered?
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Few too many asterixes... But you know that that word isn't swear filtered?
    Well I do now!
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    (Original post by thehistorybore)
    Well I do now!
    Ohhh, I thought that you ment the other one beginning with b... But yeah any word which has a non-offensive meaning isn't in the swear filter.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Ohhh, I thought that you ment the other one beginning with b... But yeah any word which has a non-offensive meaning isn't in the swear filter.
    Right I see. I try to avoid getting into any trouble about it in all honesty.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Isn't there a limit to how many may be made per term, what a waste of one of them.

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    We've recently had a MHoC age survey and now a Kinsey Scale survey so I cannot imagine any more 'demographic survey' polls will need to be held. I have only permitted both these surveys as they have been held before and have a clear precedent. I'll look to close any future survey threads during the current Parliament unless the author can seriously justify the necessity of holding one.
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    (Original post by Birchington)
    We've recently had a MHoC age survey and now a Kinsey Scale survey so I cannot imagine any more 'demographic survey' polls will need to be held. I have only permitted both these surveys as they have been held before and have a clear precedent. I'll look to close any future survey threads during the current Parliament unless the author can seriously justify the necessity of holding one.
    Precedent does not make something right. Should we try to commit genocide since there is precedent for doing so? I would write a quick motion but I somehow suspect it would be rejected, despite there being precedent.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Precedent does not make something right. Should we try to commit genocide since there is precedent for doing so? I would write a quick motion but I somehow suspect it would be rejected, despite there being precedent.

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    I will use my discretion to make decisions I feel are good for the MHoC on an individual basis. On this occasion, the survey will go ahead as normal.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    I would like to see you get all that info in 16 options.
    I prayed to God for guidance and the solution comes up the post below yours.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    I don't understand how people cannot experience sexual attraction.

    I do hope it's a psychological issue because having a weak or non-existent instinct to breed with another human is a major genetic failing.
    Why do you care? It's not like they're passing on that 'failed' gene.

    Or would you like to force them to?
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Is it psychological or have genetics failed you.
    There's no intent in evolution, thusly there is no inherent purpose to life.
    So stop giving biology a purpose.

    We survived because we reproduced.
    Not we reproduced to survive.
    Look at where the emphasis lies.
    (Of evolution) it's a flawed understanding to think otherwise.

    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    No-one knows what determines sexuality so could be either.



    Because it's an interesting demographic exercise. We have PC for political position and as for more refined political position, well, isn't that the whole point of having bills and motions etc?
    I would say, as sexuality can be broken down into sexual orientation and sexual behaviour, that we do know in part what determines sexuality.

    Sexual orientation is believed to (at least predominantly) be caused by genetic, and epigenetic factors at the moment.
    Sexual behaviour I believe is caused by in part sexual orientation, but is largely caused by socialisation as well.
    Sexual behaviour are things like sexual acts and promiscuity.
    (Socialisation is the acquisition of societal norms or effects from culture.)

    (Original post by Rakas21)
    I don't understand how people cannot experience sexual attraction.

    I do hope it's a psychological issue because having a weak or non-existent instinct to breed with another human is a major genetic failing.
    Asexuals are not aroused sexually by other people, they look at people and don't feel turned on, and don't feel the desire to have sex with them.

    And again, it can't be a genetic failing if there isn't a purpose in evolution. Perhaps a selective disadvantage, unfavourable to the survival of the species, but nothing dictates that a species has to survive, as if there's a purpose.

    (Original post by Aph)
    It's more nurture then nature I belive. But it's not a failure at all.
    My answer to this depends on what exactly epigenetics is classified as.
    Perhaps some sort of intermediate?

    (Original post by Rakas21)
    What do you think the biological point of existence is? Propagation of the species.

    Personally i find the types who don't want children but are perfectly healthy to be weird, creating a genetic dynasty is extremely attractive to me.
    There's no biological point to anything, apart from in the context of helping to explain things. Propagation of the species is not one of them, at all (as there aren't any purposes in biology, unless you are religious and what not.)

    (Original post by miser)
    I think it's a mistake to conflate purpose with biological desires or happenstance without there being a clear reason for why these should be connected. Organisms reproduce because the ones that don't don't stick around, so of course if you look at any organism, chances are it has some persistence mechanism. In other words, it's a selection bias. There's nothing to say that persistence is a good thing or the correct thing for an organism to do.
    Thank God (not religious, just the phrase) that someone has said this! It's annoying trying to explain this to people, some more so than others. Kudos to you.

    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Do you believe homosexuality is a biological failure?
    Just in case you want to see my views on the subject in the other parts of this post.

    (Same principle applies; it isn't a biological failure, as failure isn't applicable, as there isn't a purpose in biology, in evolution.)

    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Not really because you still have sexual attraction and therefore likely have some instinctual desire to breed. It's that through psychology your attracted to the wrong gender.

    If homosexuality is genetic then it would be a biological failure.
    You don't really have the instinctual desire to breed; you have the instinctual desire to have sex, which drastically increases the likelihood of reproduction(/which consequently causes [increases the likelihood of] insemination and reproduction.)

    You're not psychologically attracted to the wrong gender, as well, as there isn't a purpose. It just makes people statistical abnormalities in that regard.

    It might be unfavourable to survival in some ways, but favourable in others (homosexuality, that is.) Or there can be no overall/net advantage or disadvantage. (This part here is just speculation; I've heard of arguments in favour of advantage and disadvantage, but haven't formally researched, and haven't quantified how advantageous or disadvantageous it is.)

    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Soooo, you're not an X. The scale is about relationships, not sex.
    X is a label, and if Airmed meets the stipulation for that label, then she is "X", so to speak.

    So X = asexual, the lack of sexual feelings for any members of any sex.
    It is a label, and a category, for something akin to a spectrum (in terms of variety), so there may be irregularities (in terms of e.g. would you still categorise someone an asexual if they out of the thousands of people they've came across one person they were sexually attracted to? I would.)
    And asexuality doesn't meet you won't find pleasure in orgasm etc. etc., but you don't have any feelings or desires to do so.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Not really because you still have sexual attraction and therefore likely have some instinctual desire to breed. It's that through psychology your attracted to the wrong gender.

    If homosexuality is genetic then it would be a biological failure.
    Biology doesn't 'fail'. In evolutionary terms, the continued existence of homosexuality in small portion is beneficial and even essential. The community always needs excess manpower to take care of people.
 
 
 
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