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    As many are of the opinion, Aye
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    50 votes have been cast and due to the voter anonymity and the serious nature of the vote I cannot accept vote changes. As such I will reveal the result with tonight's update.

    Stay tuned folks.


    Lol if someone casts a 51st vote between now and then...


    Calling it now
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    (Original post by adam9317)
    This is going to be a close vote!
    I'll go for 26-23-1.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    I'll go for 26-23-1.
    I'd say a 24-25-1
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    I believe Life_peer should consider replacing Rakas with immediate effect, a Conservative accepting errors is bad enough but accepting no correction, nor rebuttal to those errors is worse.
    Wow, you want to replace the best member this house has because he isn't as bloodthirsty and power hungry as you? Well done at making ConKip even less likely
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Wow, you want to replace the best member this house has because he isn't as bloodthirsty and power hungry as you? Well done at making ConKip even less likely
    Umm, how? It cannot change the outcome of the vote so it can't make it less likely there. And it won't have an impact on the election so it won't be less likely there. And I would be interested to see your qualifiers for "best member".

    There is also a distinct difference between voting against it and publicly declaring so AND making demeaning comments about your party leadership in doing so.

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    (Original post by Aph)
    Wow, you want to replace the best member this house has because he isn't as bloodthirsty and power hungry as you? Well done at making ConKip even less likely
    No, I want to see Rakas replaced because he unprofessionally publicly undermined his leader, is not strongly against the EU, and is mellowing as he ages.
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    Rakas is by far the best tory member in terms of what the house sees of the conservatives individually, although that is just my opinion, and has been for some while now, not just because of this
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Wow, you want to replace the best member this house has because he isn't as bloodthirsty and power hungry as you? Well done at making ConKip even less likely
    I'm probably as power hungry but it was clear from the debate that they'd not got the Greens and Socialist on side which rendered me voting for the parties interest over my own opinion to be pointless.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Umm, how? It cannot change the outcome of the vote so it can't make it less likely there. And it won't have an impact on the election so it won't be less likely there. And I would be interested to see your qualifiers for "best member".

    There is also a distinct difference between voting against it and publicly declaring so AND making demeaning comments about your party leadership in doing so.

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    If any member of our party believes that i'm making demeaning comments about them they should address this via the Tory sub-forum or PM. I have received no such indication from any of the leadership, both of which i voted for and have defended on many occasions i might add.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Umm, how? It cannot change the outcome of the vote so it can't make it less likely there. And it won't have an impact on the election so it won't be less likely there. And I would be interested to see your qualifiers for "best member".

    There is also a distinct difference between voting against it and publicly declaring so AND making demeaning comments about your party leadership in doing so.

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    I would expect it would make for tender coalition negotiations unless all you Tories only care about yourselves and not your comrades.
    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    No, I want to replace Rakas because he unprofessionally publicly undermined his leader, is not strongly against the EU, and is mellowing as he ages.
    He stated that he didn't agree with his leader and that his leader Made an error. I don't see that as an issue.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    I would expect it would make for tender coalition negotiations unless all you Tories only care about yourselves and not your comrades.

    He stated that he didn't agree with his leader and that his leader Made an error. I don't see that as an issue.
    As Jammy Duel has pointed out, it is a tactical error if the MoNC is tied, but disagreeing with a party leader over something fundamental should happen behind closed doors first.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    As Jammy Duel has pointed out, it is a tactical error if the MoNC is tied, but disagreeing with a party leader over something fundamental should happen behind closed doors first.
    Unless you have a dupe in the Tories you don't know it didn't. You are just spilting out your normal hyperbole to try and annoy people into telling you what you want to know.
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    As for the result I'm thinking 25-22-3
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    (Original post by Aph)
    As for the result I'm thinking 25-22-3
    So you think we will have a right wing government next week then?

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    Calling 22 Aye, 26 Nay, 2 Abs
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    So you think we will have a right wing government next week then?

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    Sorry, 22-25-3...
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    I'm just sticking with to close to call

    I'm hoping Rakas did not blunder, beyond making a statement of course, but I'm not massively hopeful because there seemed to be "I don't care if there's not much, it's bad and there is no defence, it's better than the right"

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    I'm just sticking with to close to call

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    If its too close to call, do we go back to a recount?
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    As Jammy Duel has pointed out, it is a tactical error if the MoNC is tied, but disagreeing with a party leader over something fundamental should happen behind closed doors first.
    As i alluded to yesterday, if the MoNC is tied then my vote would have changed that and i shall reign or submit myself to an internal motion of confidence, whichever LP wants.

    Other than the fact that you should theoretically not be aware of what is said behind closed doors i refer you to my answer to JD. If the leadership have issue with me making my opinion public they should have told me so, they did not do so after my declaration in the discussion thread and they have not in the past 24 hours either.

    At any rate i await whatever the leadership choose to do with interest but would remind you that it is their decision and that saying 'i want to replace' rather than 'the Tory leadership should replace' is a somewhat inflammatory statement given that we are not one party and you are not my party leader.
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    (Original post by adam9317)
    If its too close to call, do we go back to a recount?
    Coin flip like the Americans.
 
 
 
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