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    (Original post by kieran12321LFC)
    Art is simply for entertainment but science is for development
    You do realise that technology is just one facet of development? Would you like to live in a basic tribal community which may well have the greatest technological innovation in the world but has no social or cultural development?
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    (Original post by samharrison)
    right sure

    i value art more.

    scientists are more replaceable than artists imo
    A world without art would be boring but that's it. In a world without science we would still be living like tribes
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    I am really **** at IQ puzzles. I don't live a normal life. Next question?
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    (Original post by pecora)
    The man whose IQ is the second highest in the world is unemployed.
    no he works as an A&E doctor...
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    (Original post by kieran12321LFC)
    A world without art would be boring but that's it. In a world without science we would still be living like tribes
    yeh but that doesn't mean that scientists are more valuable or more intelligent.

    scientists are replaceable. the facts are out there to be discovered about the things relevant to humans

    a tesco worker has more value than a psychiatrist i'd say (i see a psychiatrist and it's useless) but i'd hesitate to say they're more intelligent.
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    (Original post by Reue)
    Strong words from the guy incapable of holding down a job.
    And asked 'If heat rises, why don't fires just float away?' :lol:
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    (Original post by Plagioclase)
    You do realise that technology is just one facet of development? Would you like to live in a basic tribal community which may well have the greatest technological innovation in the world but has no social or cultural development?
    We wouldn't be living in a basic tribal community. I wouldn't prefer there to be no art, but science is more important
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    (Original post by kieran12321LFC)
    How come the average IQ of a country correlates fairly strongly with how developed that country is
    You're obviously more likely to achieve your potential in a more developed country where you can go to school from a young age, won't be malnourished and so on.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    You're obviously more likely to achieve your potential in a more developed country where you can go to school from a young age, won't be malnourished and so on.
    If the average base IQ was higher in these places they would be able to go to school from a young age and so on

    (Original post by samharrison)
    yeh but that doesn't mean that scientists are more valuable or more intelligent.

    scientists are replaceable. the facts are out there to be discovered about the things relevant to humans

    a tesco worker has more value than a psychiatrist i'd say (i see a psychiatrist and it's useless) but i'd hesitate to say they're more intelligent.
    Scientists have given us medicine, clean water, the ability to travel into space and they have given us the technology required for us to go on TSR. Science isn't just about facts and the development of the modern world has been down to those who are scientifically minded, not those who are artistically minded and not the person working at Tesco
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    (Original post by kieran12321LFC)
    If the average base IQ was higher in these places they would be able to go to school from a young age and so on



    Scientists have given us medicine, clean water, the ability to travel into space and they have given us the technology required for us to go on TSR. Science isn't just about facts and the development of the modern world has been down to those who are scientifically minded, not those who are artistically minded and not the person working at Tesco
    right but the development of the modern world is more down to a tesco worker than it is to a psychiatrist or other average job science grad
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    (Original post by kieran12321LFC)
    If the average base IQ was higher in these places they would be able to go to school from a young age and so on



    Scientists have given us medicine, clean water, the ability to travel into space and they have given us the technology required for us to go on TSR. Science isn't just about facts and the development of the modern world has been down to those who are scientifically minded, not those who are artistically minded and not the person working at Tesco
    Scientists are very creative people. The more creative you are the more intelligent you are. Hence Picasso was a genius.
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    (Original post by kieran12321LFC)
    If the average base IQ was higher in these places they would be able to go to school from a young age and so on
    Surely you don't honestly believe that? I've just had a look at the stats and the correlation isn't even all that strong. A few extra points on average on a test (that I imagine isn't even widely administered in most underdeveloped countries) isn't going to overcome massive economic barriers to development.
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    (Original post by kieran12321LFC)
    If the average base IQ was higher in these places they would be able to go to school from a young age and so on



    Scientists have given us medicine, clean water, the ability to travel into space and they have given us the technology required for us to go on TSR. Science isn't just about facts and the development of the modern world has been down to those who are scientifically minded, not those who are artistically minded and not the person working at Tesco
    You can't ignore the impact of non-science people though. They have fostered education systems and social security, allowing for social mobility. Medicine is the domain of scientists but the NHS was the vision of politicians. Literature and poetry provide inspiration and language skills, the latter being integral to meaningful collaboration. I could continue listing examples but you get my point. We needed far more than just scientists to get where we are today, even if their work seems more primarily important.
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    (Original post by N-R-G)
    Scientists are very creative people. The more creative you are the more intelligent you are. Hence Picasso was a genius.
    I know this, but this leads to another conversation, be arsed with it rn, ygm

    (Original post by samharrison)
    right but the development of the modern world is more down to a tesco worker than it is to a psychiatrist or other average job science grad
    It's more down to a Tesco worker it's the same. The best Tesco workers generally don't drive innovation and development but the best at science do
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    (Original post by kieran12321LFC)
    I know this, but this leads to another conversation, be arsed with it rn, ygm



    It's more down to a Tesco worker it's the same. The best Tesco workers generally don't drive innovation and development but the best at science do
    ok mr science i give up you brick wall
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    (Original post by kieran12321LFC)
    I know this, but this leads to another conversation, be arsed with it rn, ygm



    It's more down to a Tesco worker it's the same. The best Tesco workers generally don't drive innovation and development but the best at science do
    Make time.
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    (Original post by ByronicHero)
    You can't ignore the impact of non-science people though. They have fostered education systems and social security, allowing for social mobility. Medicine is the domain of scientists but the NHS was the vision of politicians. Literature and poetry provide inspiration and language skills, the latter being integral to meaningful collaboration. I could continue listing examples but you get my point. We needed far more than just scientists to get where we are today, even if their work seems more primarily important.
    I'm not completely dismissing artists I'm just saying their contribution isn't as much as scientists

    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Surely you don't honestly believe that? I've just had a look at the stats and the correlation isn't even all that strong. A few extra points on average on a test (that I imagine isn't even widely administered in most underdeveloped countries) isn't going to overcome massive economic barriers to development.
    The correlation definitely is strong. There are more than a few points difference

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    ok mr science i give up you brick wall
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    (Original post by kieran12321LFC)
    I'm not completely dismissing artists I'm just saying their contribution isn't as much as scientists



    The correlation definitely is strong. There are more than a few points difference



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    you're an aspie masturbator

    you'll probably end up being an average science teacher with a chubby wife
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