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    (Original post by Dinasaurus)
    Yeah, relative to most people that is probably true.
    Depends on the severity and how it affects each person who has it.
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    (Original post by Dalek1099)
    Words like those used signal prejudice and discrimination and must be stamped out.I certainly can't blame the school official for the way he acted racism to a black person is deeply offensive not only for the racism but of what that racism has caused in the past and is still causing now.

    I can't excuse the childs actions because they had autism I am not convinced that automatically means massive memory problems as they would have been told about 10 times in their life that what they just did is completely unacceptable.Children are told the rules and know that they have to obey the teacher.
    I don't even get this; so are you saying you're for child abuse or...?
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    (Original post by LittleMissMay)
    I don't even get this; so are you saying you're for child abuse or...?
    Where do you think he got his 6 red gems from?
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    (Original post by LittleMissMay)
    So autism>racism in your little fairytale of racism?

    My issue is violence. If the kid weren't autistic he could get beat then?

    Anyway, I wish racism were a ****ing fairytale. Ignorant ass post.

    Here's a recap:
    -I don't agree with you minimizing racism to being a fairytale
    -I agree no one should get beat for words
    -but I agree he shouldn't get beat just for being autistic. No condition excuses hatred. But no one should get beat for words.
    I'm the one objecting to this whole view that we have to calculate who is more oppressed out of an autistic person and a black person before we issue judgement. I wouldn't advocate him to be hit if he weren't autistic either because he's a kid.

    Would it be justified if he called him an *******? Whether he used a racial slur or a general insult it is just words and they only have power if you give them power with your insecurities.

    That doesn't mean I'm saying racism isn't a problem but can't you see people seem to care more about saying racist things than doing racist things these days? That's a problem.

    (Original post by Dalek1099)
    Words like those used signal prejudice and discrimination and must be stamped out.I certainly can't blame the school official for the way he acted racism to a black person is deeply offensive not only for the racism but of what that racism has caused in the past and is still causing now.I can't excuse the childs actions because they had autism I am not convinced that automatically means massive memory problems as they would have been told about 10 times in their life that what they just did is completely unacceptable.Children are told the rules and know that they have to obey the teacher.
    Please explain not only how a 10 year old autistic child is supposed to understand the ins and outs of black American history and also why you feel he is somehow responsible for any ills 150 years ago?

    If a black guy called him a white slur and he got up and beat the black guy to a pulp with a chair, is it ok as long as he can quote some historical context where black people victimised white people en masse? If not then you are the racist.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    Where do you think he got his 6 red gems from?
    I don't know lol

    (Original post by Jebedee)
    I'm the one objecting to this whole view that we have to calculate who is more oppressed out of an autistic person and a black person before we issue judgement. I wouldn't advocate him to be hit if he weren't autistic either because he's a kid.

    Would it be justified if he called him an *******? Whether he used a racial slur or a general insult it is just words and they only have power if you give them power with your insecurities.

    That doesn't mean I'm saying racism isn't a problem but can't you see people seem to care more about saying racist things than doing racist things these days? That's a problem.

    I meant to say "but I disagree with you saying he shouldn't get beat just for being autistic." I think you understood that but I just wanna clarify. I also do not think racism is ok just because he's disabled so go easy on him. But there are other ways to let his little ass know not to say horrible stuff.

    So no one should get beat for words. If it's hate speech turn to the law, or learn comebacks. Resorting to violence against anyone for something that minor is pathological.

    As for the racism, you minimised feeling offended to being a paranoid SJW. I do however believe words are wasted on some specimen. The ones who keep doing what you have repeatedly told them not to, that's called stupid. But he's hired to work with the disabled, he needs training and an asthma pump to calm himself down. And then he needs to let the autist know to watch his mouth. If the autist has been told the same thing I understand getting violent because words aren't working and if the situation is deep enough that you feel he just has to learn, then ok use force. Otherwise walk it off or find another way to punish him! Don't say, "ok I can't be violent, plus he's an autist. Or a child. Let's walk away." No of course not. There are other effective ways to nail in a lesson or moral :dry: unless those trusty methods don't work then sure. Don't let him get away with it because they're physically inferior? That's like saying, she called me the n word and told me to die on my mum's grave-but she's shorter than me so ok, I'll ignore it. Wtf?
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    Where do you think he got his 6 red gems from?
    Don't hate Dalek, he's a living legend on this site, you should learn some respect.
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    (Original post by LittleMissMay)
    Don't let him get away with it because they're physically inferior? That's like saying, she called me the n word and told me to die on my mum's grave-but she's shorter than me so ok, I'll ignore it. Wtf?
    But he is mentally inferior, that is a massive difference and you can't equate it to being physically inferior. Even if he wasn't autistic the fact he is 10 makes him also mentally inferior.
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    (Original post by Jebedee)
    But he is mentally inferior, that is a massive difference and you can't equate it to being physically inferior. Even if he wasn't autistic the fact he is 10 makes him also mentally inferior.
    Yea I'm saying violence is conditional. If the person has been told over and over not to do something and they still do it and only if you really do feel they should learn this thing, then what other options have you got? I mean there's punishment, see if that works. I agree with you halfway that the victim shouldn't have been hit but I disagree it's simply for being disabled. So I'm not saying hit the guy either, I'm saying special treatment for being disabled I am against. Do you know of racist blind people? They should be dealt with even still.
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    (Original post by LittleMissMay)
    Yea I'm saying violence is conditional. If the person has been told over and over not to do something and they still do it and only if you really do feel they should learn this thing, then what other options have you got? I mean there's punishment, see if that works. I agree with you halfway that the victim shouldn't have been hit but I disagree it's simply for being disabled. So I'm not saying hit the guy either, I'm saying special treatment for being disabled I am against. Do you know of racist blind people? They should be dealt with even still.
    I used to work with a 70 year old woman who used to spout some really racist stuff regularly, despite being asked to keep a lid on it. According to your logic I should have popped her one in the mouth to teach her a lesson?

    Here's an option, be a grown up and understand that some people can't be changed by reason or force. No one is asking you to agree with whatever a person is saying if you don't like it.

    That kid I'm sure has parents and what image will this give them of black people? How about other parents who have children with special needs? Your attitude if held by enough people would result in a race war and if that happened I don't see black people coming out as the victor. So even if you can't let a slight go from a logical perspective, perhaps try and let it go from a survival perspective.
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    (Original post by Dinasaurus)
    Don't hate Dalek, he's a living legend on this site, you should learn some respect.
    lol such a spicy response

    this thread is great
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    (Original post by StrangeBanana)
    lol such a spicy response

    this thread is great
    This guy will probably get a field's medal, he is a TSR legend.
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    (Original post by Jebedee)
    I used to work with a 70 year old woman who used to spout some really racist stuff regularly, despite being asked to keep a lid on it. According to your logic I should have popped her one in the mouth to teach her a lesson?

    Here's an option, be a grown up and understand that some people can't be changed by reason or force. No one is asking you to agree with whatever a person is saying if you don't like it.

    That kid I'm sure has parents and what image will this give them of black people? How about other parents who have children with special needs? Your attitude if held by enough people would result in a race war and if that happened I don't see black people coming out as the victor. So even if you can't let a slight go from a logical perspective, perhaps try and let it go from a survival perspective.
    I literally said violence isn't the answer and there are other methods just as if not more effective.
    By your logic turn your cheek to horrible things because of physical condition.
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    (Original post by Dinasaurus)
    This guy will probably get a field's medal, he is a TSR legend.
    because that's what field's medals are awarded for
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    (Original post by LittleMissMay)
    I literally said violence isn't the answer and there are other methods just as if not more effective.
    By your logic turn your cheek to horrible things because of physical condition.
    Words are not "horrible" things, they are a very minor infraction regardless of content.

    And yes, if that physical condition is being a child, having a mental disorder or being elderly or any combination of them then yes, either counter it with words or walk away.

    Words should NEVER lead to violence.
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    (Original post by Dinasaurus)
    Don't hate Dalek, he's a living legend on this site, you should learn some respect.
    Where do you think he got his six red gems from

    Obviously people hatin' on him

    Besides, TSR legends probably deserve the opposite of respect, ygm
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    (Original post by Jebedee)
    Words are not "horrible" things, they are a very minor infraction regardless of content.

    And yes, if that physical condition is being a child, having a mental disorder or being elderly or any combination of them then yes, either counter it with words or walk away.

    Words should NEVER lead to violence.
    I have been saying this whole time that words are minor. I even literally said that and shouldn't lead to violence, did you forget? :lolwut:
    Also I said horrible things, if I specifically meant words I would've said that. I even clarified that I mean special treatment for condition...(hate repeating myself but here we go) is wrong. End of.
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    (Original post by LittleMissMay)
    I have been saying this whole time that words are minor. I even literally said that and shouldn't lead to violence, did you forget? :lolwut:
    Also I said horrible things, if I specifically meant words I would've said that. I even clarified that I mean special treatment for condition...(hate repeating myself but here we go) is wrong. End of.
    You said what other options has one got rather than hitting someone, sounds like a pro-violence comment to me but oh well.
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    (Original post by Jebedee)
    You said what other options has one got rather than hitting someone, sounds like a pro-violence comment to me but oh well.
    Did you read the rest I mean...
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    (Original post by LittleMissMay)
    Did you read the rest I mean...
    I did yeah and I wouldn't call it privilege that you're not meant to hit them. It is the difference between a dignity society and an honour society.
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    (Original post by Jebedee)
    I did yeah and I wouldn't call it privilege that you're not meant to hit them. It is the difference between a dignity society and an honour society.
    Well I pointed that out to you to make sure that you weren't saying the disabled or physically vulnerable deserve special treatment. As long as they're able to at least understand feelings and right and wrong which 90% of them are ok, then they need to be dealt with accordingly. I never said violence. I did understand the violence, I did not agree or condone it. I understand it. But I feel when it comes to words and discipline there are more effective methods. I can't repeat this anymore.
 
 
 
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