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    (Original post by ivy.98)
    Yeah i was aware of that even though we were talking about Adrafinil which is legal and a milder version of Modafinil so possibly less harmful
    Great I just didn't want anyone reading to think "I have ADD so it must be safe for me to use" or something like that.

    I think Adrafinil has been discontinued now.
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    (Original post by Puddles the Monkey)
    Drugs licensed for medical use have a medical benefit that outweighs the risks - otherwise they wouldn't be licensed.

    Pharmaceutical companies need to show that their drugs a) have a therapeutic benefit that outweighs the risks (better than other drugs already on the market I believe) and b) work better than placebo in order for their medicine to be licensed.

    E.g., chemotherapy has some very horrible side effects but it's worth the risk if you have been diagnosed with cancer, which is why it's available for treatment.
    There are a few illegal drugs which have medical benefits which far outweigh the negatives such as cannabis but are still illegal. This is what happens when drug policy is dictated by politicians and not medical professionals.

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    (Original post by DiddyDec)
    There are a few illegal drugs which have medical benefits which far outweigh the negatives such as cannabis but are still illegal. This is what happens when drug policy is dictated by politicians and not medical professionals.

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    Weren't we having this discussion on another thread recently? :beard:
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    (Original post by iEthan)
    edit: see above post by Puddles

    edit edit: grrrr

    edit edit edit: :unimpressed: this shocks me tbh.
    You and me both!

    It blows my mind that so many students are doing this these days.
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    (Original post by skye.)
    You and me both!

    It blows my mind that so many students are doing this these days.
    My edits just made me burst out laughing :toofunny:

    But, no — seriously! It's not good.
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    (Original post by BWV1007)
    Do you get flushes (face/hands turning red) at all? Is there a way to tell if someone is on them?


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    I don't no.

    I get (and so does my dad who takes it for adult ADHD) quite speedy constantly doing something and not stopping to eat for hours at a time (makes you lose any appetite for the 3-4 hours it lasts)
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    (Original post by Puddles the Monkey)
    Weren't we having this discussion on another thread recently? :beard:
    More than likely.

    My short term memory isn't very good thanks to prescription drugs.
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    (Original post by Captain Jack)
    Yeah. I would never recommend taking them. But this newspaper is interested in people who have.
    Do you recommend never taking them because of a collective attitude among woolly-jumper, tortoise-shell glasses-wearing Brighton lefties that pills are evil or because you have good reason to believe they do more harm than good?
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    (Original post by Puddles the Monkey)
    Drugs licensed for medical use have a medical benefit that outweighs the risks - otherwise they wouldn't be licensed.

    Pharmaceutical companies need to show that their drugs a) have a therapeutic benefit that outweighs the risks (better than other drugs already on the market I believe) and b) work better than placebo in order for their medicine to be licensed.

    E.g., chemotherapy has some very horrible side effects but it's worth the risk if you have been diagnosed with cancer, which is why it's available for treatment.
    And some meds are relatively safe if you have the condition they treat but are dangerous if you don't have it.
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    I have a paracetamol works wonders when i have a headache
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    (Original post by a noble chance)
    Do you recommend never taking them because of a collective attitude among woolly-jumper, tortoise-shell glasses-wearing Brighton lefties that pills are evil or because you have good reason to believe they do more harm than good?
    It's entirely possible to be against people using prescription medicines (especially for unreliable sources) when they don't have the condition that those medicines treat without be against medications.
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    (Original post by a noble chance)
    Do you recommend never taking them because of a collective attitude among woolly-jumper, tortoise-shell glasses-wearing Brighton lefties that pills are evil or because you have good reason to believe they do more harm than good?
    :toofunny:

    this is SO spot on, you got my respect mate
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    (Original post by SmallTownGirl)
    It's entirely possible to be against people using prescription medicines (especially for unreliable sources) when they don't have the condition that those medicines treat without be against medications.
    A prescription medication is ordinarily prescribed by a doctor. It is therefore a bit redundant to point out that people taking prescription medication for an illness they don't have is not a good idea. The post I responded to recommended 'never' taking them so your contribution is basically totally useless.
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    (Original post by Puddles the Monkey)
    Much worse than caffeine pills. Modafinil is now only licensed in the UK to treat narcolepsy as it can have serious side effects. From the summary of product characteristics:



    It should only be taken under medical supervision and prescribed by a doctor.
    Stevens-Johnson Syndrome is incredibly rare and can result from a huge range of common medications, including ibuprofen and penicillin. As far as study drugs go, modafinil is one of the safer ones.
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    (Original post by a noble chance)
    A prescription medication is ordinarily prescribed by a doctor. It is therefore a bit redundant to point out that people taking prescription medication for an illness they don't have is not a good idea. The post I responded to recommended 'never' taking them so your contribution is basically totally useless.
    Then would you agree that's a real reason to recommend people not use prescription meds without a prescription?
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    (Original post by JordanL_)
    As far as study drugs go, modafinil is one of the safer ones.
    Don't they all cause psychosis?
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    (Original post by TSRUsername99)
    Don't they all cause psychosis?
    Do they? I've never heard of modafinil doing that.
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    (Original post by TSRUsername99)
    Don't they all cause psychosis?
    As a dopamine stimulant they don't help it.
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    (Original post by SmallTownGirl)
    Then would you agree that's a real reason to recommend people not use prescription meds without a prescription?
    The post I responded to didn't recommend never taking meds for a condition you don't have from some dodgy dealer at the top of a Tower Hamlets council flat. This is obvious and doesn't need to be clarified

    It recommended 'never' taking them
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    (Original post by JordanL_)
    Stevens-Johnson Syndrome is incredibly rare and can result from a huge range of common medications, including ibuprofen and penicillin. As far as study drugs go, modafinil is one of the safer ones.
    Safer compared to which other drugs?

    Some more info about SJS/TEN and modafinil:
    In clinical trials of modafinil, the incidence of rash resulting in discontinuation was approximately 0.8% (13 per 1,585) in pediatric patients (age < 17 years); these rashes included 1 case of possible Stevens-Johnson Syndrome (SJS) and 1 case of apparent multi-organ hypersensitivity reaction. Several of the cases were associated with fever and other abnormalities (e.g., vomiting, leukopenia). The median time to rash that resulted in discontinuation was 13 days. No such cases were observed among 380 pediatric patients who received placebo. No serious skin rashes have been reported in adult clinical trials (0 per 4,264) of modafinil.

    Rare cases of serious or life-threatening rash, including SJS, Toxic Epidermal Necrolysis (TEN), and Drug Rash with Eosinophilia and Systemic Symptoms (DRESS) have been reported in adults and children in worldwide post-marketing experience. The reporting rate of TEN and SJS associated with modafinil use, which is generally accepted to be an underestimate due to underreporting, exceeds the background incidence rate. Estimates of the background incidence rate for these serious skin reactions in the general population range between 1 to 2 cases per million-person years.
 
 
 
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