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M384 - Motion to Encourage European Commission Investigation Into Apple Watch

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    At the risk of sounding like a horse, neigh.
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    I'm sick of large corporations, especially Amazon, getting away with dodging taxes and so on. I welcome this motion with open arms. Aye.
    Well, now we know you to be one of the people who goes by title and submitter.

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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    That's exactly why this should be done - wouldn't you want to know if your friend was a drug dealer or doing something shady?
    Continuing the metaphor, I don't believe that apple is actually doing anything that they shouldn't - they don't have the biggest market share for operating system, and their competitor, mainly Samsung for mobile, are still doing incredibly well.

    In reality, I already know about the shady stuff my friend does....
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    Apple has a monopoly (by the UK definition) in none of their markets, for desktop OS they only have a6-7% market share, in mobile only about 20pc. If we restrict the latter to the UK it does jump to about 40pc, lower taking the whole EU.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Well, now we know you to be one of the people who goes by title and submitter.

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    (Original post by The Financier)
    This has nothing to do with dodging taxes.
    I know that - what I'm saying is that dodging taxes if just one of many things large corporations like Apple are getting away with.
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    I know that - what I'm saying is that dodging taxes if just one of many things large corporations like Apple are getting away with.
    It snowed yesterday. Want any more irrelevant information?

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    It snowed yesterday. Want any more irrelevant information?

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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Continuing the metaphor, I don't believe that apple is actually doing anything that they shouldn't - they don't have the biggest market share for operating system, and their competitor, mainly Samsung for mobile, are still doing incredibly well.

    In reality, I already know about the shady stuff my friend does....
    The problem is the OS is a different market, and in any event, it's something the Commission should investigate rather than members of the MHoC making grand pronouncements.

    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Apple has a monopoly (by the UK definition) in none of their markets, for desktop OS they only have a6-7% market share, in mobile only about 20pc. If we restrict the latter to the UK it does jump to about 40pc, lower taking the whole EU.

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    Three things: 1) 20% market share is sufficient for a dominant position; 2) I'm talking about the hardware, not the software; 3) the portable music player market is a separate market, and you must accept that apple is dominant in that.
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Continuing the metaphor, I don't believe that apple is actually doing anything that they shouldn't - they don't have the biggest market share for operating system, and their competitor, mainly Samsung for mobile, are still doing incredibly well.

    In reality, I already know about the shady stuff my friend does....
    Though I usually dislike this phrase, if they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    The problem is the OS is a different market, and in any event, it's something the Commission should investigate rather than members of the MHoC making grand pronouncements.



    Three things: 1) 20% market share is sufficient for a dominant position; 2) I'm talking about the hardware, not the software; 3) the portable music player market is a separate market, and you must accept that apple is dominant in that.
    For the record, didn't mean to rep that, but my mobile was being slow :rofl:
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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    Though I usually dislike this phrase, if they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear.
    I agree, but then why waste the time and money doing some kind of investigation...
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    Speaking of investigations, does anyone know how the Chancellor's Curse investigation is coming along?
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    The problem is the OS is a different market, and in any event, it's something the Commission should investigate rather than members of the MHoC making grand pronouncements.



    Three things: 1) 20% market share is sufficient for a dominant position; 2) I'm talking about the hardware, not the software; 3) the portable music player market is a separate market, and you must accept that apple is dominant in that.
    They aren't really different markets when, with a few exceptions so few it's barely worth considering, to have the hardware the software is needed, and to have the software the hardware is needed

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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    I agree, but then why waste the time and money doing some kind of investigation...
    Because how can you know if they have something to hide without making sure?
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    I agree, but then why waste the time and money doing some kind of investigation...
    Because it seems at least possible that there is something for them to hide.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Because it seems at least possible that there is something for them to hide.
    Well, mass surveillance time.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Well, mass surveillance time.

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    Don't be facetious.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Don't be facetious.
    Nobody has nothing to hide from the law, we can't let them get away with it

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