Again you used the term completely wrong since I experienced it and now you're accusing me of stating my experience as intending to get other ppl to agree with me? I simply stated it because I wanted to even if in hindsight it was uncouth. I'm not "leading" or "misleading" anyone with anything I say, so why are you worried people will agree that certain drs make them uncomfortable? It's their opinion they have a right to.
If its your experience the point is it is invalid in the conversation.
Morally wrong maybe, but people should still have the right to do so. When it comes to your own health it's important that you be entirely comfortable with your treatment, even if that discomfort is born of prejudice.
I never said it is right but I'm saying they have the rightnot to want a certain dr, it's their personal situation their health, they should feel comfortable with whoever they want. They're not barring people from working there by having an opinion.
Obviously the situation is different in GP practices etc. where choice is encouraged, but in emergency care and acute areas where patients aren't able to pick and choose the staff members who take care of them, prejudice causes problems (e.g. on a ward, this could lead to patients being treated by a different nurse who knows nothing about them, and who has his/her own workload to deal with in addition to this, or who isn't the best person to help them). Clearly no one would force someone to be treated by a doctor/nurse they felt uncomfortable with unless it was a life or death situation.
I didn't state an opinion in what you just quoted. It's not my opinion that I would feel uncomfortable lol I also never said I'd refuse em just that I take notice of different care.
Obviously the situation is different in GP practices etc. where choice is encouraged, but in emergency care and acute areas where patients aren't able to pick and choose the staff members who take care of them, prejudice causes problems (e.g. on a ward, this could lead to patients being treated by a different nurse who knows nothing about them, and who has his/her own workload to deal with in addition to this, or who isn't the best person to help them). Clearly no one would force someone to be treated by a doctor/nurse they felt uncomfortable with unless it was a life or death situation.
You didnt specify the type of hospital or dr. initially Even still it's that person's opinion and if they wanna die because they were racist then ok but there's no harm in it really Also I have this little feeling that all drs have basic qualifications as they're hired so I doubt the person felt the pakistani wasn't qualified, it's more of personal preference and who you feel comfortable around or dealing with the general public, you'll inevitably get ppl of all education levels
I would feel safer being treated by someone who spoke fluent English, I know it has no baring on how good they are at their job but as a patient I should be able to trust and communicate easily.
You didnt specify the type of hospital or dr. initially Even still it's that person's opinion and if they wanna die because they were racist then ok but there's no harm in it really Also I have this little feeling that all drs have basic qualifications as they're hired so I doubt the person felt the pakistani wasn't qualified, it's more of personal preference and who you feel comfortable around or dealing with the general public, you'll inevitably get ppl of all education levels
It's a different story if a patient is able to make an informed choice to refuse treatment, but unless that was the case and they were imminently coming to harm then they would be treated by whoever was available and best equipped to deal with the situation. What I was trying to say, is that if a patient refused to be treated by someone who was, for example, a band 6 nurse who was Indian, they could easily have to be treated by a less experienced, less specialised nurse if that was the only other staff member available. Similarly, if a patient refused treatment by a specialist consultant because of their race, it could hugely delay their treatment times and ultimately cause them harm. Yes, it's their decision to do that, but my point is that there can be quite serious consequences.
I don't make threads about my all the girls that end up turning me down. Difference between me you and me is, you were serious about that relationship and in the end you got rejected lol
Which relationship would that be? Which girls did I ask, and who turned me down?
Racism in healthcare is definitely still a thing. I'm white and British with a slightly unusual surname. A patient once heard my surname after a college said 'Nurse X will be treating you' and the patient loudly declared that they did not want a Pakistani nurse anywhere near them.
Again, all you right wing people do is call me a troll. I'm not far-left either @0to100, I'm moderate left, but to those with far right beliefs then I look like a troll to them
It's a different story if a patient is able to make an informed choice to refuse treatment, but unless that was the case and they were imminently coming to harm then they would be treated by whoever was available and best equipped to deal with the situation. What I was trying to say, is that if a patient refused to be treated by someone who was, for example, a band 6 nurse who was Indian, they could easily have to be treated by a less experienced, less specialised nurse if that was the only other staff member available. Similarly, if a patient refused treatment by a specialist consultant because of their race, it could hugely delay their treatment times and ultimately cause them harm. Yes, it's their decision to do that, but my point is that there can be quite serious consequences.
Right and my point is that unless you speak out as a professional and insist they accept treatment from "our trusted, qualified staff" and then lay out what you just said to me, it can't go any other way than well. Otherwise you're just complaining that people have an opinion that sometimes will hurt your feelings if they can't tell the difference between your background and your name.
Experience is literally relevant as we're discussing personal opinions, title says "you feel"
I didn't state an opinion in what you just quoted. It's not my opinion that I would feel uncomfortable lol I also never said I'd refuse em just that I take notice of different care.
you used the words "I feel culturally" correct me if I am wrong, but that sounded like an opinion to me. I did not say that you were wrong in feeling comfortable with "white doctors" than others, but just be careful to not generalise even with your experience. I said it is fine as you don't seem to completely refuse others.
Racism. Its pretty much fascism, because its thinking one race is better than another @0to100, I'm moderate left, but to those with far right beliefs then I look like a troll to them
It's not racism what I said and you won't be getting any empathy off me as you hypocritically accuse ppl far right of you to be trolls so...?
I did not say that you were wrong in feeling comfortable with "white doctors" than others, but just be careful to not generalise even with your experience. I said it is fine as you don't seem to completely refuse others.
Why should I be careful? lol since I didn't generalise either. I just playfully stated my opinion about my personal situation, which is the opposite of generalising. I nevr said all Muslims are this way and all whites are this way, I said in my experience I feel they are this way or that, and I can do that if I want. I would never be like bleeding out my head and refusing a pakistani come on. But if I on the inside feel more comfortable if a white woman attends to me oh well? Maybe she reminds me of my mam or something lol