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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    They made losses or no net gains everywhere. Wales: down 8pc in constituency seats, 4pc in list seats, the Tories also down but not as much.

    Councils: Tories, no change in vote share on 2012, labour down a few per cent. The only net change in councils, one from labour to NOC

    London Assembly: I don't know vote share figures, but in terms of AMs Tories and lib dems down 1, UKIP up two. Likely a case with the lib dems of losing one to labour and then labour losing one to ukip, or lib dem to con and two con to UKIP.

    The only labour net gains from the Tories was for London mayor.

    Police and Crimea commissioners, con take Bedfordshire from lab. Tory gains in Cleveland. Derbyshire, massive Tory gains. Looking at the list so far though there has been 1 lab to con, 2 con to lab and 6 Ind to con and likely a net swing to the Tories from labour in terms of vote shares

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    If a team wins the first leg 3-0 and draws the second leg 1-1, the final score is 4-1. How many fans are complaining that they suffered a -3 goal swing?

    The winning team then play their next match and lose 1-0. The second team play the same team and lose 3-0. The second team's fans call the first team's result a disaster. Doesn't that sound kinda strange?

    Concentrate too much on swings, and you'll have to say the next government is going to be a UKIP and Lib Dem coalition!
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    (Original post by Neverdie)
    If a team wins the first leg 3-0 and draws the second leg 1-1, the final score is 4-1. How many fans are complaining that they suffered a -3 goal swing?

    The winning team then play their next match and lose 1-0. The second team play the same team and lose 3-0. The second team's fans call the first team's result a disaster. Doesn't that sound kinda strange?

    Concentrate too much on swings, and you'll have to say the next government is going to be a UKIP and Lib Dem coalition!
    Except it's not a case of two legs, it's two separate matches.

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    Except it's not a case of two legs, it's two separate matches.

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    Ok.
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    (Original post by Neverdie)
    Ok.
    Think of it this way... It's 2017 and the Tories win 1000 council seats and Labour 500. The swing though was that the Tories lost 250 to Labour.

    Will you be calling the Tories victorious for winning a bunch of shire seats that they were always going to win anyway or is Labour victorious because there was a good swing to them?

    The swing vs the last time they were fought is a much better measure.
 
 
 
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