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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    Will study Mathematics and Economics. At a level i do maths, F maths, Physics and Economics.
    Why are you watering down your Maths Degree with a subject that's only borderline STEM?
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    (Original post by JamesN88)
    Why are you watering down your Maths Degree with a subject that's only borderline STEM?
    Got offered for just Maths but then i opted to do some Economics. Idk, may revert back to pure maths at uni
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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    Got offered for just Maths but then i opted to do some Economics. Idk, may revert back to pure maths at uni
    wow that's a pretty respectable degree! But at which university? That's what's important.
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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    Hilarious. I would mock a non STEM student but i have no idea what you lot do that requires a brain.
    What's your opinion on Law?
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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    wow that's a pretty respectable degree! But at which university? That's what's important.
    Warwick, got an offer from UCL but i turned that down. but yeah, university is definitely more important
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    (Original post by Abstract_Prism)
    What's your opinion on Law?
    Law is mostly memorising and learning things by heart but certain aspects like some game theory (prisoners dilemma etc) require skills that are more logical. So you definitely need to be intelligent to do Law and isnt on the same level as something like Sociology.
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    Lmao this baited so many people. You'd think after seeing this type of thread for the 100th time, people would stop replying with rants. But no. Everyone falls for it over and over again.

    It's similar to the "I got 8A*s and 3 A's at GCSE plus 5 A's at AS. Should i apply to Cambridge or Liverpool/London met?" threads.
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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    Warwick, got an offer from UCL but i turned that down. but yeah, university is definitely more important
    Well done! I heard warwick and UCL are great unis full of intelligent people studying all sorts of subjects, both STEM and non-STEM. I'm looking to do maths and/with economics as well at UCL or LSE or maybe Warwick.
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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    Warwick, got an offer from UCL but i turned that down. but yeah, university is definitely more important
    Outside of high-end Law and Finance/IB(and TSR) it's not the be all and end all. Even then it'll only get you an interview.
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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    Well done! I heard warwick and UCL are great unis full of intelligent people studying all sorts of subjects, both STEM and non-STEM. I'm looking to do maths and/with economics as well at UCL or LSE or maybe Warwick.
    Yeah, the campus looks really nice and combining the courses are great. Would definitely recommend but i didnt initially apply for maths and econ, just Maths then requested to transfer. I personally didnt want to live in london and didnt like UCL maths that much but they're good for more of the applied stuff (guess thats what counts). But yh, all the best in the future. Note this is more of my alter ego speaking lol
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    (Original post by JamesN88)
    Outside of high-end Law and Finance/IB(and TSR) it's not the be all and end all. Even then it'll only get you an interview.
    Yh i guess, but there is certainly some preference for STEM/Economics/Finance over non STEM
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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    Law is mostly memorising and learning things by heart but certain aspects like some game theory (prisoners dilemma etc) require skills that are more logical. So you definitely need to be intelligent to do Law and isnt on the same level as something like Sociology.
    Law isn't mostly memorising. If you memorise a list of cases and statutes and then you go and just write those in the exam without applying them to the facts, you will fail. It's a lot of analysis, application, knowing context and policy/politics stuff around it too.

    If you think the whole point of your degree is to get a good job then I mostly agree with you about STEM actually. But typically the kind of people who take English etc aren't aiming for a top job, they 'love their subject'. Funny how a lot of English, History etc grads end up doing a Law conversion anyway when they realise the only real job for them with those subjects is to be a teacher. But saying that I don't really see the point in something like a pure Maths degree either, Engineering, science etc sure. There's a guy at my work with a masters in Maths from Cambridge and he gets paid less than me with a 2.1 in Law from an average Russell Group uni.
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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    Any really, completeuniguide etc etc

    Or more generally you can say russell group but not all of them are good
    But they all say different things. For example, one international ranking places Manchester as 7th best in the UK. Another places it 25th. Do you take an average or do you pick and choose what to ignore?

    Using rankings alone is silly

    (Original post by infairverona)
    But saying that I don't really see the point in something like a pure Maths degree either, Engineering, science etc sure.
    I actually heard getting a job from a pure science degree (physics, biology, chemistry) can be very difficult. Many go into research, teaching or take a second degree.
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    (Original post by Lawliettt)

    I actually heard getting a job from a pure science degree (physics, biology, chemistry) can be very difficult. Many go into research, teaching or take a second degree.
    Yeah I'm not sure on pure science but I think biological science degrees are useful. I doubt they are less employable than someone who has done a humanities subject or media or something though, at least they're thought of highly for grad schemes etc.
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    (Original post by infairverona)
    Law isn't mostly memorising. If you memorise a list of cases and statutes and then you go and just write those in the exam without applying them to the facts, you will fail. It's a lot of analysis, application, knowing context and policy/politics stuff around it too.

    If you think the whole point of your degree is to get a good job then I mostly agree with you about STEM actually. But typically the kind of people who take English etc aren't aiming for a top job, they 'love their subject'. Funny how a lot of English, History etc grads end up doing a Law conversion anyway when they realise the only real job for them with those subjects is to be a teacher. But saying that I don't really see the point in something like a pure Maths degree either, Engineering, science etc sure. There's a guy at my work with a masters in Maths from Cambridge and he gets paid less than me with a 2.1 in Law from an average Russell Group uni.
    I agree with you on the whole. However a pure maths degree, science etc can be used by ppl to see the aptitude and intelligence of someone, a non STEM degree cant in the same sense.
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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    Im yet to see anyone disproving my original statement.
    I take it you ignored my rebuttal on the first page of this thread.

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    (Original post by Lawliettt)
    But they all say different things. For example, one international ranking places Manchester as 7th best in the UK. Another places it 25th. Do you take an average or do you pick and choose what to ignore?

    Using rankings alone is silly
    ik, guess there's other ways too e.g. looking at which unis are target unis for employers, etc etc. you can also look at ranking for individual subjects as well. Manchester for example is much better in the sciences than something like economics.
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    Look, it depends on what career you want. STEM is more specialised, which sets you up for lots of specialised careers, but non-STEM subjects give you more transferrable skills.
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    (Original post by Katty3)
    I take it you ignored my rebuttal on the first page of this thread.

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    Apologies, however i have addressed your points throughout this thread already.

    Many of your points are narrowing it down, i was talking very generally.
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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    I agree with you on the whole. However a pure maths degree, science etc can be used by ppl to see the aptitude and intelligence of someone, a non STEM degree cant in the same sense.
    I don't think 'all' non STEM degrees fit with that statement though. I wouldn't consider someone with a pure physics degree any more intelligent than someone who has learnt Chinese to a fluent level from scratch. Also, in my experience few people are good at both science/maths subjects and languages - most of my friends did physics and medicine, and none of them were any good at languages or anything involving essays. Languages are equally as valuable as science IMO.

    Also when you see people who have done a STEM at a **** uni with a **** grade I don't think they're intelligent either over people who have done a non STEM at a good uni. Most of the time people who have done humanities at Oxbridge and top unis could've done science if they wanted to, but chosen not to - that doesn't make them stupid. My sister for example got A*s in all sciences as well as all humanities, she also took maths and a science to AS and got straight As in all her subjects. She's definitely intelligent enough to have done STEM if she wanted to, but she chose to do languages. That doesn't make her less intelligent than someone who muddled through STEM with Bs and Cs.
 
 
 
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