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    (Original post by Lawliettt)
    There's no reason whatsoever to opt for a
    Desktop if a laptop has the same performance. It's a stupid question lol.

    If we're just talking about in general though, i still prefer laptops. There's no game my laptop can't run (although it wouldn't matter regardless since i game on consoles anyway).

    Plus I'd look like an idiot carrying a desktop to uni.
    Not true.

    Money, upgradebaility and repairs are three reasons.

    The ops question is the stupid thing.

    People should just get the compiter that suits their indivdual needs. best for you doesnt make it the best for everyone.
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    (Original post by Another)
    Razer blade stealth has this nifty unit you connect via USB. External GPU and RAM upgrade, it basically makes the ultrabook on par with a gaming desktop (or so the company claims)
    Yes, but it still requires you to buy an ultrabook which can't be used for gaming except when connected to something that essentially makes it a desktop, and you still have to buy a graphics card and the dock. At which point you may as well just buy a desktop and a cheap laptop
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    (Original post by Gofre)
    A laptop obviously, since you can hook it up to the mains with a monitor, keyboard and mouse plugged in and use it like a desktop if you wanted to as well. The only real detriment the laptop has is thermals and noise.

    However considering similarly powerful laptops and substantially more expensive than their desktop counterparts and there aren't even laptops capable of matching some not-to-insane desktop builds, it's not really a fair fight when you say "same performance" and "Don't mention cost".
    I hook my Macbook Pro up to an external display, keyboard and mouse. An awesome combination of convenience and portability. The Mac functions flawlessly when used like this as well. I definitely agree with you in terms of power, the architecture of mobile CPU's and other laptop components are optimised for portability not power.
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    (Original post by TajwarC)
    But I'm assuming this only works with that particular ultrabook. Also 12.5" screen. Just lol, any actual gamer/designer/etc will know that's a joke, why compromise your experience for the sake of having a detachable ultrabook with less performance? It's basically a desktop with a fancy and small monitor imo. Thanks for letting me know though, but I don't believe that this supports OP's argument
    I use a 13.5 inch laptop. No issues with gaming, can confirm. I don't think OP has mentioned anything to do with designing. I would have considered this machine for Uni in the day then having a workstation when I'm home (let's be real, I can't afford two devices) but the battery life is terrible.
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    (Original post by xylas)
    Well you can sorry to have to update you.

    I can't be bothered answering the same thing again and again, see above responses especially Acsel's post. Short answer, laptop can do everything desktop can with absolute advantage of portability. What you have said is not an advantage of a desktop.
    Desktops have better performance, full stop! Anyone who knows anything about computers knows this. But like I said, if you want portability then buy a laptop, and yeah it's not like performance is 100% compromised but you will get better with a desktop (and at less cost too)
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    (Original post by xylas)
    First link.
    https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GT80S-6QF...#hero-overview

    Fine, perhaps nowadays they can't get 100% the same performance but it's closer now then ever before. I made this thread because I see this as a realistic scenario in the near future. So if you assume laptops can match the best desktop performance then the real differences in the form factors become apparent and it becomes a much more interesting choice.
    Thanks for the link. However my point still stands- dual 980s in a laptop are not capable of approaching the performance of Quad Titan Xs. For example the Titan laptop scores 5258 in Fire Strike Ultra, while a desktop with 3 Titan X's doubles that score, never mind a fourth.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    Not true.

    Money, upgradebaility and repairs are three reasons.
    Can you not do all those things with a laptop? I certainly can lol.

    And aren't laptops generally cheaper? Even if they weren't, OPs scenario said you had infinite money lol

    I'm just saying in my opinion, OPs question only has one answer (hence why it's pointless).

    If he asked which do people prefer without any added variables then there'd be more room for debate.
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    (Original post by Gofre)
    Thanks for the link. However my point still stands- dual 980s in a laptop are not capable of approaching the performance of Quad Titan Xs. For example the Titan laptop scores 5258 in Fire Strike Ultra, while a desktop with 3 Titan X's doubles that score, never mind a fourth.
    It can only manage 1080p, weights 4.5kg and has a battery life of 2.5hrs.
    Looks to be just under 4k. For that sort of money you could buy a nice laptop and build a massive desktop.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    It can only manage 1080p, weights 4.5kg and has a battery life of 2.5hrs.
    Looks to be just under 4k. For that sort of money you could buy a nice laptop and build a massive desktop.
    To be fair it's probably powerful enough to do some degree of 4K gaming depending on how MSI implemented desktop GPUs (which I can't be bothered wasting my paltry megabyte allowance checking), they just decided to stick in a 1080p display for some reason.
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    If u need a laptop for office, facebook , youtube, general web browsing, a laptop would probably be a more suitable convenient option, maybe even a chromebook/tablet with an external drive would suffice. However, if you do any sort of compiling, 3d rendering, scientific modelling, data mining, video encoding, a laptop is not an option, these are things you probably wont be doing on the go anyway Hardware wise a desktop will always win, period. Some laptops have ram soldered in (you might argue ramdisk, but the speed doesnt compare to real ram), some only have 1 internal sata port, some have more, others also have m.2 ssd slots, however it is ultimately more limiting than a desktop. Yeah you can get multiple external usb drives, an external gpu (razer core), all the ramdisks in the world, but then the cpu will limit you Imagine a laptop hooked up to all those things on ur desk, it loses its portability which is its only advantage
    Everyone has different computing needs, I dont see a point in this debate

    I have an S7 edge which meets my basic computing needs on the go most of the time. A cheap laptop with an intel celeron processor (I dunno which one) 3gb ddr3 ram, 120gb ssd which I use for car diagnostics/coding and the odd library session.

    At home I have an itx build, not the smallest itx build but its still quite small . i7 4770k, 16gb ram, Asus vi rampage itx motherboard 4 x 2tb hard drives, 512gb m.2 ssd, Gtx 980.
    This I use for my more "intensive" computing needs
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    (Original post by Gofre)
    To be fair it's probably powerful enough to do some degree of 4K gaming depending on how MSI implemented desktop GPUs (which I can't be bothered wasting my paltry megabyte allowance checking), they just decided to stick in a 1080p display for some reason.
    You could ofc link it up to external monitors, but then ofc you have created a desktop and need to spend more money.
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    (Original post by xylas)
    Fine, set amount of money £10,000. Don't deny that some people spend that much on computers.
    People spend that much on both desktops and laptops but they're definitely in a very small minority
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    (Original post by TajwarC)
    Quick question, have for frames for CS dropped recently by any chance?
    I feel like mine have tbh, but I'm not sure if cs has reset my video settings tho
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    (Original post by xylas)
    No you're out of touch. Look at the new model.

    Anyway, my point is that the best possible laptop would have similar performance to a desktop. I have already said how this would be possible with external devices etc.
    The best possible laptop is very vague.

    If you still want it portable, then no.

    Due to the simple problem of space and power, desktops will always be more powerful. There's just more space for bigger and more powerful components.
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    (Original post by donutellme)
    The best possible laptop is very vague.

    If you still want it portable, then no.

    Due to the simple problem of space and power, desktops will always be more powerful. There's just more space for bigger and more powerful components.
    He's given a link to the £3900 MSI Titan . Here is a review
    http://www.kitguru.net/laptops/leo-w...tx980s-review/

    Everyone on this page agrees, he just cant see it becayse he cant accept reality.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    He's given a link to the £3900 MSI Titan . Here is a review
    http://www.kitguru.net/laptops/leo-w...tx980s-review/

    Everyone on this page agrees, he just cant see it becayse he cant accept reality.
    For less money you can make something better.

    He's said no cost limit. So what do you think you can get if you spend £4000 WITHOUT the battery and size constraints?
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    (Original post by donutellme)
    For less money you can make something better.

    He's said no cost limit. So what do you think you can get if you spend £4000 WITHOUT the battery and size constraints?
    he did, but then he went down to £10,000 and then he started offering the £4,000 laptop up. He forget to mention it weighs 9.9lbs and runs for 2.5hrs.


    I dont know what I could get for £4k, am sure soemthing nice and fast. the are some new chips coming out this year I think 10 cores and 20 threads?

    If I wanted to spend that much id just look round and see what was good and take it from there. I tend to think high end graphics cards depreciate quite quickly. O get bored of carrying a laptop round plus theft and breakage concerns. They have their place though. If you dont game and dont want power, then they are fine.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    I dont know what I could get for £4k, am sure soemthing nice and fast. the are some new chips coming out this year I think 10 cores and 20 threads?
    Intel already produce Xeon chips with up to 18 cores for workstation/server use, but yeah, they're planning to introduce a 10 core Core i7 for consumer use at some point this year too.

    For £4,000 you could probably get an i7 from the current selection, a couple of top end GPUs to SLI/Crossfire, whatever combination of other components you wanted, a 4K monitor and maybe even a VR headset.
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    If they had the same performance, desktops.


    Laptops will start to heat up and rack up the fan noise very quickly if they had the same performance as a desktop, plus they would be a lot heavier, and would have battery life smaller than 2 hours (*cough* "gaming" laptops, still don't believe people fall for that marketing prefix). That goes against the idea of a 'portable' machine.

    Might as well get a desktop in that case (plus if we assumed money was finite, then a desktop will always). outclass a laptop in performance

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    (Original post by TajwarC)
    But I'm assuming this only works with that particular ultrabook. Also 12.5" screen. Just lol, any actual gamer/designer/etc will know that's a joke, why compromise your experience for the sake of having a detachable ultrabook with less performance? It's basically a desktop with a fancy and small monitor imo. Thanks for letting me know though, but I don't believe that this supports OP's argument
    On the whole external GPU docks are a slowly upcoming thing. The majority are not linked to a specific laptop and simply connect via Thunderbolt, allowing you to make use of the onboard RAM and CPU in your laptop but boost the GPU power with an external model. They also tend to work as hubs, offering multiple display outputs via the GPU, as well as additional USB ports and even things like gigabit networking. The Razor Core is one model but MSI, Asus and Alienware all have or will have models, to name a few.

    Providing you have a laptop with a Thunderbolt 3 port you can make use of them. The only exception I can think of was (I believe) from MSI. The laptop in question had a dedicated full size PCI x16 slot on the back of the laptop. You literally had to slot the laptop into the dock. That was a dumb idea and Thunderbolt works much better.

    Regardless though I would never suggest them to anyone. Yeah, they offer desktop level graphics cards to a laptop but they take away the portability. And they aren't far off the size of an Mini ITX sized case. If you're gonna be tethered to a box with your GPU then buy a small desktop. With a proper processor, RAM, etc. Because the externals docks aren't designed to be portable.

    The only time you benefit from them is if you've got a dock at all possible locations. For example do some stuff at work with a dock, take your laptop home and connect to a home dock. But then frankly I think a cloud solution or an old fashioned external hard drive does it better.

    Short of it is just buy a desktop. Desktops are better in every way besides portability. If portability means more than anything else then by all means get a laptop. External GPU docks are dumb on the whole.
 
 
 
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