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    It seems the usual, ever-ready asinine trolls have already posted the preemptive hashtags and Islamist memes, along with their rigorous analyses of the tragic event that is the subject of this thread.

    Good job, gentlemen! Keep scratching each other behind the ears.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    The BBC among others, reports two sharp turns before a sharp descent of 25,000 feet, which could indicate a hijacking, followed by detonation of a suicide bomb, or possibly bullets through the outer skin.
    But not mechanical/computer failure?
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    (Original post by hovado)
    But not mechanical/computer failure?
    What sort of control failure do you propose, that first sends the plane sharply 90 degrees left, then 360 degrees to the right, then down 25,000 feet very quickly, bearing in mind there was no distress call (which would certainly have happened if there was a mechanical or computer fault)?
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    (Original post by QE2)
    Show me the quote that says you can't. And whatever is not forbidden is permitted.
    Please stop with this. That's such a childish comment. You're clearly not allowed to kill another human being, let alone bring down a plane with 66 people in it!
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    there was no distress call (which would certainly have happened if there was a mechanical or computer fault)?
    But there was, according to France.
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    Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves really. Here you are already blaming it on Muslims despite there being no evidence of a terrorist attack, or any information about the cause, whilst the families of these 66 people are in agony. May Allah forgive these people and help their families through this tough time. And may he punish those who were responsible for this, if it happens to be the case.
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    (Original post by Dodgypirate)
    But there was, according to France.
    The BBC has an interview with a British pilot who was captain of one of only five flights in the same area at the same time, 2,000 feet higher. He heard nothing.

    The Egyptian military deny any such distress call and the BBC adds:

    Initially, the aircraft seemed to drop off the radar at 37,000 feet, suggesting a sudden break-up. It's very rare for modern planes to simply break apart in mid air. That means an explosion was a real possibility.

    But then the Greek defence minister described the aircraft making sharp turns and dropping height quickly. That suggests it was intact for longer.

    Even in the worst emergencies, pilots tell me they should have time to call for help, once they've got to grips with the problem. But not always.
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    (Original post by hovado)
    But not mechanical/computer failure?
    A320s are fly-by-wire aircraft, if there was a sufficient mechanical / computer error for control to be lost then it most likely wouldn't have been able to make two violent turns.

    The record so this type is exemplary and, with it being a French aircraft, any crash cause will be investigated by the French authorities. I haven't checked yet, but if this version has P&W or GE engines then the Americans will also be involved in the investigation.
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    Methinks the cause is more likely to be something Egypt will keep on denying forever
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    a French aircraft, .
    Is EgyptAir a French company?
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    Is EgyptAir a French company?
    Airbus is. Therefore any Airbus that suffers an incident gets investigated by Airbus, regardless of where it is in the world.

    Same with Boeing.

    And same with the engine manufacturers.
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    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    Enough evidence for you (DiddyDec) to suggest earlier in this thread that it probably wasn't a terrorist attack.
    Key word, probably.
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    Airbus is. Therefore any Airbus that suffers an incident gets investigated by Airbus, regardless of where it is in the world.

    Same with Boeing.

    And same with the engine manufacturers.
    Of course. I wasn't thinking about manufacturers; I was thinking about owners.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    Is EgyptAir a French company?
    Airbus is French.
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    (Original post by DiddyDec)
    Key word, probably.
    Probably means more than likely, you did not say possibly, you said probably.

    Therefor you have said that it is more likely than not that the plane was brought down as a result of mechanical failure, which is utter bs.
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    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    Probably means more than likely, you did not say possibly, you said probably.

    Therefor you have said that it is more likely than not that the plane was brought down as a result of mechanical failure, which is utter bs.
    Statistically what has brought down the most passenger planes, terrorism or faults?
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    Looking at the maps of where it lost contact and of the Meditterannean sea depths, it looks as if it may have gone down in one of the deepest areas of the sea. It could be 3000m down.

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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    What sort of control failure do you propose, that first sends the plane sharply 90 degrees left, then 360 degrees to the right, then down 25,000 feet very quickly, bearing in mind there was no distress call (which would certainly have happened if there was a mechanical or computer fault)?
    (Original post by Drewski)
    A320s are fly-by-wire aircraft, if there was a sufficient mechanical / computer error for control to be lost then it most likely wouldn't have been able to make two violent turns.

    The record so this type is exemplary and, with it being a French aircraft, any crash cause will be investigated by the French authorities. I haven't checked yet, but if this version has P&W or GE engines then the Americans will also be involved in the investigation.
    The expert I heard on the BBC was suggesting the computer may have tried to correct a mechanical failure leading to the violent turns.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    Now that was a bit naughty, wasn't it? You know that context is important, so why did you leave out the very next verses, which go on to give permission for the killing of those waging war or making mischief against Allah?

    5:33 Those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and go about the earth spreading mischief - indeed their recompense is that they either be done to death, or be crucified, or have their hands and feet cut off from the opposite sides or be banished from the land. Such shall be their degradation in this world; and a mighty chastisement lies in store for them in the World to Come

    Obviously, Islamic terrorists can use this to justify killing whoever is opposed to them.

    http://www.islamicstudies.info/tafhe...verse=33&to=34
    Because no one aboard that plane waged war or was spreading mischief about the earth. Are we reading the same thing here?

    edit: You included that link and failed to properly read the explanation yourself. Typical. Either that or you didn't understand it.
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    (Original post by yasminkattan)
    or was spreading mischief about the earth.
    That includes atheists and anyone opposed to the caliphate, including the Egyptian government (whose tourism industry Islamists wish to destroy).
 
 
 
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