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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    More harder, obviously unemployment will rise could only be a little but will lower chance of getting a job.
    Good English tends to help

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Good English tends to help

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    When I type on TSR I lag type and it all comes out like this.. below

    thsi IS WhAt ti comes out as soooo i cant helpit

    I have to correct about 10000000000 things
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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    When I type on TSR I lag type and it all comes out like this.. below

    thsi IS WhAt ti comes out as soooo i cant helpit

    I have to correct about 10000000000 things
    More jobs will be created if we leave the European Union, surely increasing your chances of getting a job?

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    (Original post by XcitingStuart)
    More jobs will be created if we leave the European Union, surely increasing your chances of getting a job?

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    Not in short-term, as wages will fall and living wage coming into effect.
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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    No, the reason why we're remaining is because we are international country. We WILL remain, here some things I don't get about brexiters:

    > Why leave when we're #1 in soft power in the world because of EU. I think that's down to the fact that we're so eurosceptic.
    > Why leave EU if we're expected to be EU biggest economy in near future. Says who? Cameron? Don't make me laugh.
    > Why leave if we can go anywhere in Europe easily. As far as I know, we won't be leaving Schenguen. There shouldn't be any trouble visiting EU countries if we leave. We're more concerned about people coming in.
    > What about people who are on low wages/going to university/getting part-time job as a student? Unemployment will obviously rise.. what about those people hm? What about them lol? Wouldn't lack of investment and inflation sky-rocket tution fees again? Fees will rise regardless. They've shot from £0 to £9000 a year with us being in the EU.
    It's glorious that so many people want to vote out.
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    (Original post by The Roast)
    It's glorious that so many people want to vote out.
    What about those people who are working class/students wanting to get part-time job when living wage + unknown that comes with leaving comes into affect?

    PS. I'm not pro-EU or pro-brexit I just perfer to stay in.
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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    What about those people who are working class/students wanting to get part-time job when living wage + unknown that comes with leaving comes into affect?

    PS. I'm not pro-EU or pro-brexit I just perfer to stay in.
    Leaving the EU is not going to have any effect.

    What makes you think that staying in the EU is going to make it any better?


    Are you British?

    If so, you should decide whether you want to stay in or out properly. This is the one and only chance we'll get at a referendum, don't waste your vote.
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    (Original post by Jebedee)
    If only we could prevent the unemployed from voting. Brexit would win by a landslide.
    Or we could just disenfranchise everyone and have you as our dictator. Then anything you said would win by a landslide.
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    (Original post by The Roast)
    Leaving the EU is not going to have any effect.

    What makes you think that staying in the EU is going to make it any better?


    Are you British?

    If so, you should decide whether you want to stay in or out properly. This is the one and only chance we'll get at a referendum, don't waste your vote.

    Well...

    > Italian bf who going to Cambridge University with home tution fees (can't afford international) and parents paying it
    > EU balances power in UK, so conservatives can't fully takeover
    > EU makes sure things get done probably not slacking, like a motherboard like on emissions
    > We should use our wealth of infulence to change EU for the good, not leave it and let it to rot.
    > Need money to pay for exam sittings
    > Need a job
    > Doesn't want inflation to rise so it makes it harder


    I think I'll vote to stay.
    PS. I'm British all the way.
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    (Original post by Jebedee)
    If only we could prevent the unemployed from voting. Brexit would win by a landslide.
    Yeah, just ban all the people who will be affected the most.

    You're simply validating all the names Brexiters have been given :rolleyes:

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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    > EU balances power in UK, so conservatives can't fully takeover
    These are what elections are for
    If the conservatives go mad, they don't get elected again
    If the EU commission does all the things you're afraid of? **** you. No vote for you.
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    (Original post by EuanF)
    These are what elections are for
    If the conservatives go mad, they don't get elected again
    If the EU commission does all the things you're afraid of? **** you. No vote for you.
    I'm voting if you like it or not, I'm probably more British than you'll ever be. A typical average teenager takes Britain for granted while immigrants respect and don't (majority)

    Elections in UK aren't actually " fair " for an example, UKIP had 20% of overall votes but only 1 MP?? SNP didn't have 90% of votes but took all of Scotland??? No matter if their majority or not they can win so EU balances the power so no revolution goes on and UK keeps it game in check.

    I can also sense your far-right winger because of the aggression in your tone.
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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    I'm voting if you like it or not, I'm probably more British than you'll ever be. A typical average teenager takes Britain for granted while immigrants respect and don't (majority)

    Elections in UK aren't actually " fair " for an example, UKIP had 20% of overall votes but only 1 MP?? SNP didn't have 90% of votes but took all of Scotland??? No matter if their majority or not they can win so EU balances the power so no revolution goes on and UK keeps it game in check.

    I can also sense your far-right winger because of the aggression in your tone.
    I'm a centre-left democrat so let's not bandy assumptions around

    Our system might not be perfect but it's looking to reform, with the HoL being replaced by an elected Senate, a move towards PR/AV instead of FPTP etc

    You should never have to be "protected" from your own elected government. If this government does anything wildly unpopular (privatise the NHS, kill the Queen and her corgis) then they simply won't get in to parliament again (See the Lib Dems nearly vanishing after the student loans betrayal)

    The same can't be said for the EU - if they do something you don't like? Oh well! You don't get to vote for any of the commissioners and half the EU staff are people who usually LOST local elections. If the Commission did something you don't like, you have no power to remove them from office and replace them with a better Commission
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    (Original post by EuanF)
    I'm a centre-left democrat so let's not bandy assumptions around

    Our system might not be perfect but it's looking to reform, with the HoL being replaced by an elected Senate, a move towards PR/AV instead of FPTP etc

    You should never have to be "protected" from your own elected government. If this government does anything wildly unpopular (privatise the NHS, kill the Queen and her corgis) then they simply won't get in to parliament again (See the Lib Dems nearly vanishing after the student loans betrayal)

    The same can't be said for the EU - if they do something you don't like? Oh well! You don't get to vote for any of the commissioners and half the EU staff are people who usually LOST local elections. If the Commission did something you don't like, you have no power to remove them from office and replace them with a better Commission
    Ok well, lets put it this way as your a socialist. What about workers right .. etc? Yes EU is undemocrac, however I do think sometimes its better not being democrac don't you think? You think China would of heavily instead to rise debt and rapidly rise in growth? No.. people wouldn't allow that they would of been worse off, once EU has intergrated into one superstate (not in our lifetime) we'll boom once again watch it happen.
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    (Original post by *Stefan*)
    Yeah, just ban all the people who will be affected the most.

    You're simply validating all the names Brexiters have been given :rolleyes:

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    Why should someone who has been unemployed long term and done nothing but be a parasite, have any say in politics that will affect businesses and workers? They're just going to vote for whatever gets them the most benefits for the least work at the behest of people who do contribute.
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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    Ok well, lets put it this way as your a socialist. What about workers right .. etc? Yes EU is undemocrac, however I do think sometimes its better not being democrac don't you think? You think China would of heavily instead to rise debt and rapidly rise in growth? No.. people wouldn't allow that they would of been worse off, once EU has intergrated into one superstate (not in our lifetime) we'll boom once again watch it happen.
    Power and democratic mandate is derived from the people. That's pretty much the best socialist system there is.

    It isn't about economic growth. It's about democracy - one of the pillars of our civilisation.
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    (Original post by EuanF)
    Power and democratic mandate is derived from the people. That's pretty much the best socialist system there is.

    It isn't about economic growth. It's about democracy - one of the pillars of our civilisation.
    Well I'm centre-wing not left or right but I agree its one of the best socialist systems but sometimes democracy isn't best as not everyone who votes is actually educated.
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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    Well I'm centre-wing not left or right but I agree its one of the best socialist systems but sometimes democracy isn't best as not everyone who votes is actually educated.
    That's true, but ultimately they're still people and deserve their right to self-governance. It's the job of the educated to convince the undeducated to vote leave.
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    (Original post by EuanF)
    That's true, but ultimately they're still people and deserve their right to self-governance. It's the job of the educated to convince the undeducated to vote leave.
    Oh its the uneducated people who are voting to leave.
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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    Oh its the uneducated people who are voting to leave.
    Yes, particularly encompassing the philosphically uneducated - lacking moral courage, not trying to strive for something greater than themselves, merely accepting a system and trying not to die (virtually just animals)
 
 
 
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