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    (Original post by jamesj477)
    Fine. If you were in a situation like this, maybe you were on a safari and an elephant charged you, or a gorilla was threatening you, I'm sure you would think differently. Saying that you would never allow that or put your child in that particular situation is just a futile way of admitting that you do not have a good argument. It's just a hypothetical situation.
    You can't even compare both situations, I am in their natural habitat, and thus I would take on the risk of such things happening. However, I know it is hypothetical, yet it is tainted by reality due to the nature of the individual e.g. it is an alien concept to imagine myself having a child. A more realistic thing for me imagine is being at a zoo and witnessing it happen, for instance if I witnessed this specific case. Call me 'morally' wrong but I would be more traumatized seeing the gorilla get shot than potentially seeing what it would do with the child.
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    (Original post by sarkrista112)
    You can't even compare both situations, I am in their natural habitat, and thus I would take on the risk of such things happening. However, I know it is hypothetical, yet it is tainted by reality due to the nature of the individual e.g. it is an alien concept to imagine myself having a child. A more realistic thing for me imagine is being at a zoo and witnessing it happen, for instance if I witnessed this specific case. Call me 'morally' wrong but I would be more traumatized seeing the gorilla get shot than potentially seeing what it would do with the child.
    Why? I'm genuinely curious what you are thinking when you say something like that.
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    (Original post by jamesj477)
    Why? I'm genuinely curious what you are thinking when you say something like that.
    I don't think it's something I can adequately articulate here. It's just the way I'm wired. Don't get me wrong, I can and have had sympathy for a human being, however animals are more likely to pierce my cold dead heart. Misanthropic predispositions if you will.
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    (Original post by P357)
    Nothing more vile than the sheer psychopathy of your average peta zoophile freak...The world would be a much better place if we treated them like the animals they see as their own equals.
    Ok? Bit ironic that you're saying that but you're the one who is coming off as a "psychopathic freak".

    I'm entitled to an opinion without some butthurt animal-hater like you insulting me.
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    (Original post by Copperknickers)
    gorillas ... pose no more danger to humans than a koala. That being said they are very large, and there was clearly a danger of injury to the child in this case,
    Contradictory, much?
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    What am wondering is why no one is mad that the gorilla is locked up in the first place, whilst he should be in the wild,

    Human life > animal anytime anyday, except for rapist&peadophile
    no matter if the mother did it on purpose by throwing him bare hands into that cage , they did right by killing him, if a 4 year old boys life is in danger
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    (Original post by Serpentine111)
    Ok? Bit ironic that you're saying that but you're the one who is coming off as a "psychopathic freak".

    I'm entitled to an opinion without some butthurt animal-hater like you insulting me.
    Not ironic at all. Valuing animal life over human life is psychopathic. Simples.
    And i'm no animal hater...Not sure how'd you'd infer that from my post dissing weird zoophiles on the internet who wish death on other people.
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    It was the child or its parents fault. Animals, particularly those in captivity, are blameless for their actions.
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    (Original post by Copperknickers)
    First of all, gorillas are not 'vicious animals'. They are herbivorous and pose no more danger to humans than a koala. That being said they are very large, and there was clearly a danger of injury to the child in this case, but that was largely because a troop of escaped hairless monkeys were shouting and screaming at the gorilla.



    Why people who don't care about animal life care about other humans they will never meet is beyond me. If you have so little empathy as to think its OK to shoot animals for no good reason then why do you even care about your own species beyond family and friends? What kind of mental gymnastics does your brain do to justify such illogical compartmentalised thinking? Nazi Germany was one of the first countries in the world to introduce laws against cruelty to livestock, and yet they committed the Holocaust. And yet the same people who find that fact hard to comprehend somehow manage to commit exactly the same logical fallacy themselves, in reverse.
    Great point.

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    (Original post by mil88)
    Respectfully, if the Gorilla intended to do that, he would have. However, the fact is that he didn't and indeed was showing signs of protective behaviour.

    A gorilla (most cases) only attacks as violently as you have suggested when threatened. This gorilla was certainly not threatened by a 4 year old child, if he was, everyone would have known.

    Also, even if taking action is most appropriate, why not use tranquilizers, or distract him with bananas which is what another zoo did?
    If a gorilla dragged your 4yr old son through the water, would you like someone to toss some bananas over and hope for the best?
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    (Original post by sarkrista112)
    I'd choose the gorilla over the child any day.


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    Would you choose the gorilla over your own child?
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    What is weird is how some people believe that animal lives are worth more than a humans. That is absurd. They're not even equal to us. We're above them and take priority.

    The experts on the scene deemed it to be a life threatening situation. They acted accordingly. They did what they had to do. It's unfortunate that the gorilla had to die. Especially an endangered species, but that is a better scenario than a dead child.
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    (Original post by ihatePE)
    um there's like 7 billion people, and a few hundred gorillas. they should be prioritised before they are gone forever. it would be sad if that boy gets ripped to pieces i know but still who could blame the gorilla smh
    So you're going to prioritise a gorilla over a 4 year old child when a majority of people in the world eat meat, which involves killing animals.




    I wonder if you slipped in the cage instead would you be asking them not to shoot the gorrilla while it's tearing you to pieces.
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    (Original post by NathanW18)
    What is weird is how some people believe that animal lives are worth more than a humans. That is absurd. They're not even equal to us. We're above them and take priority.
    What do you base that assertion on? Why do you feel 'superior', and why do you feel the need to organise the world into a hierarchy of 'superiority' and 'inferiority'?

    The experts on the scene deemed it to be a life threatening situation. They acted accordingly. They did what they had to do. It's unfortunate that the gorilla had to die. Especially an endangered species, but that is a better scenario than a dead child.
    I agree with that, having seen enough of the video to know that the gorilla was clearly extremely agitated. But since the child is OK, we can now admit that this was a very trafic incident for the gorilla and for its species, and whoever is responsible for allowing this situation to happen is should be held accountable for the death by negligence of a highly intelligent endangered animal. There are enough people out there killing endangered African animals without morons like this.

    (Original post by James82)
    Contradictory, much?
    Not really. I wouldn't leave a koala unattended with a small child and then scream at it for 20 minutes straight.
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    (Original post by cherryred90s)
    Would you choose the gorilla over your own child?
    I cannot anticipate such hypothetical questions because I will never have children. I would choose a gorilla over a child, like I originally stated.
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    (Original post by intelligent con)
    Why are people going so mental about this stupid gorrilla being killed. The fact is if it hadn't been killed it would have killed a 4 year old which surprisingly a lot of people seem to be ok with. This reminds me exactly of cecil the lion. I will never understand why westerners seem to think vicious animals are cuddly pets just because someone gave them a name and started a twitter hashtag about them.

    First of all millions of animals are killed every day to give you mcdonalds or KFC and none of you seem to care about that. Secondly people who actually live in countries with these animals know how vicious they are so don't care if they are killed. Why people seem to think animal life is equal to human life is beyond me.
    Because it takes a special amount of stupidity and negligence to allow your child to fall into a gorilla enclosure. A beautiful endangered animal there for your stupid and negligent unworthy ass

    Poor creature did nothing wrong and had to endure a horrible death and lacks the comprehension to understand why
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    (Original post by 13 1 20 8 42)
    Yes it is rather funny which things people pick to get upset over out of the multitude of events that don't affect them at all
    I witnessed a child get brutally murdered and laughed because i find it funny that people get upset over events that dont effect me at all
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    (Original post by BasicMistake)
    That's lovely and everything but I bet if your sister/brother/mother had fallen into the enclosure, you won't be telling the zookeeper to hold fire.
    I would also want my sister/brother/mother to escape punishent if they had broken the law (Most laws). Doesnt mean it should be a rule
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    (Original post by P357)
    Nothing more vile than the sheer psychopathy of your average peta zoophile freak...The world would be a much better place if we treated them like the animals they see as their own equals.
    Psychopathy to value and have compassion for animals. Interesting
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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    I witnessed a child get brutally murdered and laughed because i find it funny that people get upset over events that dont effect me at all
    My point was not that people should never be upset by stuff that doesn't affect them, but that the things that spark the most outrage don't seem, to me, to necessarily be those that warrant all the attention and emotional investment. There are many, many bad things that happen and don't affect you directly. And yet somehow stuff like this and Cecil the lion spark a lot of outrage, while most people aren't crying over the thousands of people starving to death every day, for instance. I guess it's simply a case of if the media sees fit to make a story out of it, i.e. it's brought to people's attention, then they'll lap it up as the thing they need to be outraged over.
 
 
 
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