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    (Original post by cbreef)
    I don't see London as a different country though. and I don't think you do either. So you can't compare the two
    I thought you all knew, London is to be the first colonial outpost of the new Independent Scotland, it was clearly shown as such on that Sky regional map. Up here we are still deciding if we want Northern Ireland.
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    (Original post by cbreef)
    I disagree, the UK is merely a political union of 4 different countries.
    Really? When was Northern Ireland ever an independent country? And Wales? Never.

    Scotland was, of course, 300 years ago.
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    (Original post by DJKL)
    I thought you all knew, London is to be the first colonial outpost of the new Independent Scotland, it was clearly shown as such on that Sky regional map. Up here we are still deciding if we want Northern Ireland.
    Sounds like a plan
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    Really? When was Northern Ireland ever an independent country? And Wales? Never.

    Scotland was, of course, 300 years ago.
    I see them all as their own countries now they have their own parliaments. So, at least to me, they are considered different countries.

    Google has a country down as:

    "a nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory."
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    The objective is not to trade freely, but to trade prosperously.* The biggest exporters to the EU (China, USA, Russia) have no free trade agreement with her, for example

    Hopefully not a watered own version of what exists at present! (unfortunately this looks likely)

    I’m sorry but you cannot possibly know that

    Perhaps it would be instructive for you to peruse my analysis

    Just watch what happens in Europe now. These are very interesting times for continental Eurosceptics (of which there are hundreds of millions)

    FTSE was only down 4% last time I checked, on half a day’s trading, and Sterling fell, before rallying. So, a little premature, dontcha think? Also, the market’s had bubbled prior to this and the show can’t go on forever (unless you buy into the Brown mantra of ‘the end of boom and bust’)

    Amen to that! UK financial sector needs rebalancing as it is. Government has failed to split the casino from the retail banks so this is a reasonable second best solution. It’ll be a bitter pill but long term it’s healthiest for our economy, and Democracy

    FDI will be significantly impacted in the short-medium term, NGL, but this is based on a lot more than just the IB scene, no worries. The same empty threats were wheeled out when we opted not to join the single currency (arguably much more of a bind to European markets), and look how the city has prospered regardless!

    Oh, I’m sorry, you’re right, this first-class graduate economist and political commentator is living in cloud cuckoo land and hasn’t the faintest clue what he’s talking about! :laugh:

    Development Economics does not support this view. Democracy and self-determination are correlated with stability, dynamism, and prosperity

    In principle, I agree, but the practical reality + philosophical question raised by the points I noted, stand firm

    Kingston Upon Thames is not in London, it’s in Surrey

    You might want to check your facts dear (1970’s-1999, 2006-2010, and raised our family there)

    Partly for health reasons, partly for reasons of affordability e.g. given the fact that my family had moved out and certain Londoners seriously let me down regarding offers of accommodation

    Look to Europe, take a deep breath, and think again

    i.e. hipsters + poor people + a misguided few who don’t fit into either camp
    Kingston is in south London and still has London transport serving them. Oh yeah,i. Forgot you guys lived in a London suburb in your youth

    I have,but I'm also optimistic and don't like getting too carried away

    Hmm I'm not so sure
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    (Original post by cbreef)
    Google has a country down as:

    "a nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory."
    Good old Google!

    Does it also tell you what a government does? A nation state has a government that controls its foreign policy, immigration and tax policy, and that can determine what powers to devolve, too. Do any of your governments?
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    Good old Google!

    Does it also tell you what a government does? A nation state has a government that controls its foreign policy, immigration and tax policy, and that can determine what powers to devolve, too. Do any of your governments?
    Partially yes. We have some control of taxation in Scotland. Not entirely sure about the other two
    Scotland is closer than the other countries to being fully independent. Even if none of them qualify officially as nation states. They are still considered different countries by the general population.
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    (Original post by cbreef)
    Partially yes. We have some control of taxation in Scotland.
    Some control. Control of certain aspects of taxation details, which your government has been afraid to use. That is not control.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Kingston is in south London
    Not where my mother lives, KT2 postcode = Surrey postcode, not a London one

    still has London transport serving them
    Sort of. No Tube line goes that far out

    I have, but I'm also optimistic and don't like getting too carried away
    Fair play. Deep down you know what I am talking about has becoming more and more of a sad reality across the continent, and is now a very real threat here in the UK too though :sad:

    Hmm I'm not so sure
    [/quote]Heh. As above, you know I'm kinda right, deep down
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Not where my mother lives, KT2 postcode = Surrey postcode, not a London one

    Sort of. No Tube line goes that far out

    Fair play. Deep down you know what I am talking about has becoming more and more of a sad reality across the continent, and is now a very real threat here in the UK too though :sad:
    Heh. As above, you know I'm kinda right, deep down [/QUOTE]

    Hmm let me check TFL,aye

    I haven't really seen any problems as such in the UK like those people complain about in Germany

    I'm not so sure tbh because I don't think it's only hipsters that live in such places
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    I haven't really seen any problems as such in the UK like those people complain about in Germany
    Say what!? Cologne is nothing compared to the thousands of young girls preyed upon by Muslim/Third world migrants e.g. in Aylesbury, Banbury, Bristol, Derby, Keighley, Oxford, Peterborough, Rochdale, Rotherham, and Telford
 
 
 
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