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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    dom of Speech is a right I would defend to the death, but with rights come responsibilities
    That's rich, coming from you.

    The Brexit campaign was full of mis-information. And you had a whole thread loaded with utter tripe.

    We are already seeing how the UK is changing. There have been a rise in racially motivated attacks. The economy took a hit and there have already been job losses. It also looks like the UK will break apart.

    Things could get better - it depends on the deal the EU offers us. However, for us to be doing as well as we were, then we'd have to make concessions. It'll mean that while we are outside of the EU, the things that mattered most to Brexit supporters will not change. Things like free movement, accepting EU laws, paying into the club.

    Basically, we have divided the nation for absolutely no gain.
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    (Original post by andrewUK)
    Many pensioners living in the EU will have to leave. Unless Britain chooses to maintain some freedom of movement. However in order to maintain freedom of movement Britain will have to reduce their control over immigration as Switzerland has. But given that immigration was the main reason many voted out it is unlikely Britain will choose choose to give up some of their control.

    This means that British expats who don't own property will become illegal immigrants. This is because the 1969 Vienna Convention gives property owners 'acquired rights'. Dominic Grieve (look him up if you don't know him) has argued this many times.

    The unemployment figures do take into account opening by EU migration stopping however this is outweighed by the fact that many businesses such as JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, Bank of America who employ tens of thousands are moving their operations away from the UK. HSBC has already moved 1,000 jobs.
    https://next.ft.com/content/a3a92744...5-82a9b15a8ee7
    As you're so certain on the future, care to give me the next few weeks worth of lottery numbers? :facepalm: You have literally no knowledge as to whether expats living in EU countries will have to leave or not as you don't know what will be agreed. I doubt EU countries will want property prices to crash in many of their cities and towns.

    I couldn't find anywhere in that report where it mentioned the opening of jobs. Plus as I said, the figures are based on GDP, which makes the entire report practically useless as GDP is not linked to the amount of jobs there are.
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    After got to know another backgrounds in Brexit, I am afraid that this could lead toa struggle in whole Europe:

    Scotland is against leaving EU in contrast to another countries of the UK, that is why Scotland thinks about the option for another referendum to leave the UK. That is what Northern Ireland and Wales couldn't do. Catalonia, which has tried being independ on Spain in the past, as well. If Scotland gets a new Chance by the EU and Scotland leave the UK just to be a part of the EU, that would lead to havoc in whole Europe.
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    (Original post by stoyfan)
    We are going to want to join the single market. Therefore we would have to pay EU membership and there will be freedom of movement.

    As for EU laws. It will take us many years to choose (of every single one) whether we keep it or not.
    If we stay in the single marker we will still have to be under EU law. I think Mr Junker is right out is out and if we go in to the single market i fell there was no point voting to Leave
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    Nylon trousers and Brylcreem™ will be back with a vengeance. Spot the Ball and public executions will regain their popularity.
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    (Original post by InnerTemple)
    That's rich, coming from you
    How so?

    you had a whole thread loaded with utter tripe
    Such as?

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    I'm sorry your sanctimonious side lost quite so shockingly, petal - seems I was bang on when I declared we'd won the argument :cry2:

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    There have been a rise in racially motivated attacks
    Unfortunately people are always going to let off steam when, finally, you lift the lid of PC and encourage people to re-engage with their national identity. See the way collaborators were treated by the people of occupied Europe after The War, FYR :yy:

    The economy took a hit
    Specifics?

    there have already been job losses
    Remain were clear there were 3,000,000 jobs directly at stake, so presumably the job losses we've seen so far must seem relatively modest, no?

    It also looks like the UK will break apart
    The SNP has an insatiable appetite for independence (and self-destruction). What of it?

    depends on the deal the EU offers us
    You're assuming the EU will be around for a while. It won't

    the things that mattered most to Brexit supporters will not change. Things like free movement, accepting EU laws, paying into the club
    I hope you're wrong, but in any case, we will protest if they try to lump the EU on us again. They're not stupid, they know immigration was TOTP in the minds of leavers, and if they want to see hate crime soar (as the public takes out its frustrations on the poor migrants themselves) then this would be a great way to go about it :rolleyes:

    Basically, we have divided the nation for absolutely no gain
    1) Starting sentences with 'basically' doesn't reflect well on you

    2) Appearing to suppose that a single-issue vote suddenly divided a country that was formerly completely united doesn't reflect well on you either
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    Looking forward to the news, tomorrow. We all need some much needed clarity. I was team remain, but the sooner we start fixing the problems we've caused, the better.
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    I also feel like NI will resist leaving. Our First Minister is a member of the DUP (they wanted us to 'Leave') BUT, if we were to leave, then there will be a lot of pressure for a border poll/referendum on a United Ireland- something they do not want. Most of our other parties were for remain, so they won't willingly sign off to leave the EU, either.

    I'm not sure of the legalities, but NI might well resist just as much as Scotland. That could be very interesting.
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    1. I want dress down days to have a compulsory dress code of union jack speedos
    2. I expect we can be proper British and smoke and drink beer at our desk
    3. I want us all driving proper British cars like Fords instead of BMWs

    These are my expectations for now, nothing less will suffice
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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    1. I want dress down days to have a compulsory dress code of union jack speedos
    2. I expect we can be proper British and smoke and drink beer at our desk
    3. I want us all driving proper British cars like Fords instead of BMWs

    These are my expectations for now, nothing less will suffice
    And it can only be a proper British beer like Stella.
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    (Original post by JamesN88)
    And it can only be a proper British beer like Stella.
    Stella is Belgium you fooooll.. Proper British "Becks" and such is what we need
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    lord gaben will smoke brexits and we will get csgo skins
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    (Original post by snailsareslimy)
    I also feel like NI will resist leaving. Our First Minister is a member of the DUP (they wanted us to 'Leave') BUT, if we were to leave, then there will be a lot of pressure for a border poll/referendum on a United Ireland- something they do not want. Most of our other parties were for remain, so they won't willingly sign off to leave the EU, either.

    I'm not sure of the legalities, but NI might well resist just as much as Scotland. That could be very interesting.
    I don't see the DUP fighting for the 6 counties to stay in the EU, this is the result they wanted and they have a history of putting personal feelings over public opinion.
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    (Original post by DarkMagic)
    I don't see the DUP fighting for the 6 counties to stay in the EU, this is the result they wanted and they have a history of putting personal feelings over public opinion.
    You're right, the DUP are stubborn and only care for their own interests. However, it really depends on how much pressure is put on them this week. Most of the main parties in NI were on the Remain side of the argument, so they don't exactly have another party to fall back on. Northern Ireland also voted to remain. If they sign us leaving off, then as the majority of Northern Ireland voted to stay, it absolutely opens up the prospect of a United Ireland for serious debate. The demand of Irish passport applications in the last few days also illustrates that point, too.

    I think the lack of urgency from Arlene to call a meeting today illustrates that it isn't as simple as sticking to their guns. There's unrest in the DUP, that's for sure.

    But hey, the DUP will probably not listen to their electorate because who cares that Northern Ireland democratically voted to remain... I hate Northern Ireland. Where else in the world would the First Minister agree to something that the majority of the electorate don't want. So much for democracy.
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    (Original post by geoking)
    As you're so certain on the future, care to give me the next few weeks worth of lottery numbers? :facepalm: You have literally no knowledge as to whether expats living in EU countries will have to leave or not as you don't know what will be agreed. I doubt EU countries will want property prices to crash in many of their cities and towns.

    I know many expats. Also "I doubt EU countries will want property prices to crash in many of their cities and towns."- exactly why I said home owners have acquired rights under the convention.

    I couldn't find anywhere in that report where it mentioned the opening of jobs. Plus as I said, the figures are based on GDP, which makes the entire report practically useless as GDP is not linked to the amount of jobs there are.
    You've read the report wrong. It isn't about the opening of jobs.... it's showing how their will be less jobs as banks move abroad....
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    (Original post by shooks)
    Whether you're hopeful or worried about the UK's post-EU future depends largely on how you voted. But what's your biggest hope or concern for how the country may change for young people?

    For instance,this article on The Guardian raises some interesting possibilities.
    - It might be harder to get a job in Europe
    - UK students might have to pay international tuition fees to study at European unis
    - UK graduates might find it easier to find grad-level jobs in the UK
    - It might become harder to travel around Europe
    - House prices might become more affordable
    For starters I hope that non voters who were able to vote but didn't bother because of a likely Brexit shouldn't really complain about the result. Thats why they should go out there and vote.
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    (Original post by shooks)
    Whether you're hopeful or worried about the UK's post-EU future depends largely on how you voted. But what's your biggest hope or concern for how the country may change for young people?

    For instance,this article on The Guardian raises some interesting possibilities.
    - It might be harder to get a job in Europe
    - UK students might have to pay international tuition fees to study at European unis
    - UK graduates might find it easier to find grad-level jobs in the UK
    - It might become harder to travel around Europe
    - House prices might become more affordable

    Click this link to sign the petition:https://petition.parliament.uk/petit...mRJjPGXFd6IGBc
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    (Original post by InnerTemple)
    That's rich, coming from you.

    The Brexit campaign was full of mis-information. And you had a whole thread loaded with utter tripe.

    We are already seeing how the UK is changing. There have been a rise in racially motivated attacks. The economy took a hit and there have already been job losses. It also looks like the UK will break apart.

    Things could get better - it depends on the deal the EU offers us. However, for us to be doing as well as we were, then we'd have to make concessions. It'll mean that while we are outside of the EU, the things that mattered most to Brexit supporters will not change. Things like free movement, accepting EU laws, paying into the club.

    Basically, we have divided the nation for absolutely no gain.
    Yes, this has opened the floodgates to every recidivist, racist and reactionary to assume that the country is now their personal plaything.

    An NHS radiographer being racially abused by a Leaver patient last night.
    https://twitter.com/drmaliabbasi/sta...87198914887680

    Comments reminiscent of the sort of thing that Jewish professionals faced in Nazi Germany in the 30s.
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    (Original post by Dieselblue)
    I heard Sweden would follow if Britain Left.

    Good luck with sexit, I mean swexit
    I prefer: "Swe Ya Later!"
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    (Original post by Assan)
    By applying to a British university, I bet on my university maintaining and expanding its prestige. I am VERY nervous about the future prestige of my degree.
    It doesn't mean as much as you think.
 
 
 
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