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    (Original post by Inside10)
    Also, how can people like nostradammus predict future. There are many religious texts which predict future. There are many supernatural events which have happened. Just because science cant explain it doesnt mean its not real.
    Nostradamus made no accurate predictions about the future that can only have come from divine origin.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Nonsense. It is the most comprehensive and supported theory out there for the origins of the universe accepted by the majority of scientists.

    What are you on about there being no evidence for the universe? It's all around you! There is plenty of evidence for its expansion, ranging from red shifted galaxies, cosmic background radiation and the black colour of the night sky.
    Black colour? Lol. The theory is based on those things. The things arent evidence to support the theory, And background radiation can be caused by a lot of things who's to say it was caused by the big bang. And red shift could only mean galaxies are moving away, not the universe is expanding lol. Theres evidence for Earth, Sun, moon. but whats the evidence for a 'universe' and big bang
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    (Original post by Inside10)
    Black colour? Lol. The theory is based on those things. The things arent evidence to support the theory, And background radiation can be caused by a lot of things who's to say it was caused by the big bang. And red shift could only mean galaxies are moving away, not the universe is expanding lol. Theres evidence for Earth, Sun, moon. but whats the evidence for a 'universe' and big bang
    It's clear your understanding of science isn't great. Yes, the sky's black colour resolves Olber's Paradox and thus proves the universe isn't steady and infinite, otherwise the sky would be infinitely bright.

    The fact galaxies are moving away from each other proves the universe is expanding.

    No, cosmic background radiation didn't come about another way, don't make lazy statements like that. It permeates the entire universe which could only be possible through the Big Bang.

    Are you trolling now? We have telescopes and objects in space showing a wider universe exists, not just out solar system.

    And once again, not knowing does not prove God exists, you still haven't provided a shred of proof for his existence.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    It's clear your understanding of science isn't great. Yes, the sky's black colour resolves Olber's Paradox and thus proves the universe isn't steady and infinite, otherwise the sky would be infinitely bright.

    The fact all galaxies are moving away from each other proves the universe is expanding.

    No, cosmic background radiation didn't come about another way, don't make lazy statements like that. It permeates the entire universe which could only be possible through the Big Bang.

    Are you trolling now? We have telescopes and objects in space showing a wider universe exists, not just out solar system.

    And once again, not knowing does not prove God exists, you still haven't provided a shred of proof for his existence.
    You are saying we dont know where cosmic radiation came from so it must be from the big bang. How do we know it didnt come from other sources? Also can galaxies just move away from each other why does the universe have to expand for that to happen. We have observed more than our solar system but thats not the point. The point is theories which scientists build on (e.g. parallel universes) when we dont know what the universe is. What is expanding? Obviously we havent discovered all corners of this world, so the theory about what the universe is is stupid. Also dont you think its a bit a bit far fetched to think that something created out of nothing? And by something I mean this planet, the sun etc. not just small things. Its also stupid to really on such weak 'evidence' to say that the universe was created from nothing.
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    (Original post by Inside10)
    You are saying we dont know where cosmic radiation came from so it must be from the big bang. How do we know it didnt come from other sources? Also can galaxies just move away from each other why does the universe have to expand for that to happen. We have observed more than our solar system but thats not the point. The point is theories which scientists build on (e.g. parallel universes) when we dont know what the universe is. What is expanding? Obviously we havent discovered all corners of this world, so the theory about what the universe is is stupid. Also dont you think its a bit a bit far fetched to think that something created out of nothing? And by something I mean this planet, the sun etc. not just small things. Its also stupid to really on such weak 'evidence' to say that the universe was created from nothing.
    Who's saying we don't know where CMB came from? We're saying it came precisely from the Big Bang, it's basically the heat afterglow of the expansion. These aren't just vague assertions, they're supported by empirical evidence.

    The universe's expansion explains perfectly why galaxies are moving away from each other. There is no known physical law that would cause of all of them to do this otherwise. Besides, it's not this one piece of evidence that proves the universe is expanding, it's all the different ones taken together to confirm it is. Are you seriously advocating that the universe is static?

    Of course it's the point because you were implying the wider universe didn't exist!

    The multiverse is a hypothesis, not a supported theory.

    Except most scientists don't say the universe was created out of a literal nothing but from a singularity which already contained the energy of this universe in a super condensed state.

    Planet and star formation is very well understood, and relatively simple really. Gravity collects gas and rocks to form them, they don't come from nothing.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Who's saying we don't know where CMB came from? We're saying it came precisely from the Big Bang, it's basically the heat afterglow of the expansion. These aren't just vague assertions, they're supported by empirical evidence.

    The universe's expansion explains perfectly why galaxies are moving away from each other. There is no known physical law that would cause of all of them to do this otherwise. Besides, it's not this one piece of evidence that proves the universe is expanding, it's all the different ones taken together to confirm it is. Are you seriously advocating that the universe is static?

    Of course it's the point because you were implying the wider universe didn't exist!

    The multiverse is a hypothesis, not a supported theory.

    Except most scientists don't say the universe was created out of a literal nothing but from a singularity which already contained the energy of this universe in a super condensed state.

    Planet and star formation is very well understood, and relatively simple really. Gravity collects gas and rocks to form them, they don't come from nothing.
    that is so ********. The universe was one particle and it expanded into the universe. How did they ever come up with that. You say like CMB came exactly from there but we didnt know if it did. Prove me wrong, Theres no evidence it came from the Big Bang.

    Science doesnt know yet why the galaxies are moving away it doesnt mean it doesnt exist. Why cant the universe be static. Theres plent of other theories, but none of them even prove the universe exists, let alone it is expanding.

    Scientists cant even figure out how life started forget about the universe.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Nostradamus made no accurate predictions about the future that can only have come from divine origin.
    What do you mean it didnt come from divine origin? It could've came from anywhere but thats not the point. The point is he made supernatural predictions about the future and they are correct even though not entirely.
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    (Original post by Inside10)
    that is so ********. The universe was one particle and it expanded into the universe. How did they ever come up with that. You say like CMB came exactly from there but we didnt know if it did. Prove me wrong, Theres no evidence it came from the Big Bang.

    Science doesnt know yet why the galaxies are moving away it doesnt mean it doesnt exist. Why cant the universe be static. Theres plent of other theories, but none of them even prove the universe exists, let alone it is expanding.

    Scientists cant even figure out how life started forget about the universe.
    No, it didn't come from a single particle, particles didn't form until after the expansion.

    Of course there's evidence, there are whole papers on it.

    OK, now you're trolling when saying the universe doesn't exist, of course it does.

    I don't even know why you're trying to contest this when you don't appear to have a basic understanding of the BBT and it doesn't disprove God in the first place. Plenty of people believe in God and the BBT.
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    (Original post by Inside10)
    What do you mean it didnt come from divine origin? It could've came from anywhere but thats not the point. The point is he made supernatural predictions about the future and they are correct even though not entirely.
    Nostradamus' so-called predictions are junk. As well as getting many things wrong, the predictions rely on ridiculous twisting of the translations to try and fit reality. You have still not provided a shred of proof for God's existence.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Spare us the Judgement Day scaremongering because that day is not here nor will it ever come.
    The real #ProjectFear!
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Nostradamus' so-called predictions are junk. As well as getting many things wrong, the predictions rely on ridiculous twisting of the translations to try and fit reality. You have still not provided a shred of proof for God's existence.
    Not really. Some of the people interpret in an unrealistic way but a lot of them are fairly accurate. Also, there are many other predictions in other religions which are accurate too. Im not talking about God, im talking about something beyond science. Im not a scientist but you have to admit a lot of theories scientists come up with are unrealistic. E.g. Scientists dont know how life started but theres several accepted theories on it which doesnt make sense. If theres papers on it, the discussion is beyond the scope for us as neither one of us actually care enough. But there are things beyond science which we havent found yet but we make assumptions that it doesnt exist like predicting the future for example but we have theories for things we dont even have evidence for.
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    (Original post by Inside10)
    Not really. Some of the people interpret in an unrealistic way but a lot of them are fairly accurate. Also, there are many other predictions in other religions which are accurate too. Im not talking about God, im talking about something beyond science. Im not a scientist but you have to admit a lot of theories scientists come up with are unrealistic. E.g. Scientists dont know how life started but theres several accepted theories on it which doesnt make sense. If theres papers on it, the discussion is beyond the scope for us as neither one of us actually care enough. But there are things beyond science which we havent found yet but we make assumptions that it doesnt exist like predicting the future for example but we have theories for things we dont even have evidence for.
    Because many of those predictions are fairly obvious things or ones that could have conceivably happened. There's no evidence they were divinely or supernaturally inspired, you'd have to provide hard evidence for that claim to be taken seriously.

    How do the theories on abiogenesis not make sense? There are many plausible theories and my Master's project was based on making molecules that could have existed on the prebiotic Earth that could easily have formed RNA and subsequently DNA.

    Science doesn't claim to have all the answers, it's an ongoing process.
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    don't be stupid like foolish children with no understanding that they will be punished. pay attention, change your ways and start living right. you do these things that the lord hates and you refuse to listen though he has been speaking to you. he told you to live as he commanded so that things would go well for you. but you do what your evil heart tell you and you have become rotten and worthless. you say, i can't turn back, i have loved my own ways and i will go on; but you will be disgraced. come back to the lord, he is merciful. understand that it is a terrible evil to turn away from the lord, a bitter mistake to reject him. you should decide to obey him and give yourself to his service. the lord still hope you may come back to him, he wants you to call him father. make promises in his name and do what you promise then he will bless you. but if you are stubborn and keep on sinning, his anger will burn like fire that cannot be put out. there is still time for you to be saved, wash the evil from your heart. why can't you understand that you should worship the lord with fear and trembling, why don't you listen when he speaks to you? and you like it this way. but on the day of disaster where will you turn for help? you should be ashamed of your disgusting sins but you don't even blush so the lord will punish you.
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    (Original post by keepyy)
    who is this striding triumphantly in the greatness of his strength? why is his clothing splashed with red? for the day of vengeance has come,
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    this is jesus coming from the kingdom of heaven, high beyond the confines of the universe
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    1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 - For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

    Hebrews 9:28 - So Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him
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    Revelation 1:7 - Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen.


    Matthew 24:44 - Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect
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    shall you fall and not arise? if someone miss the road, he turns back, why then cling to the evil ways? return to the lord, keep the ordinace by which he rules you. if you reject his teachings, what wisdom have you got now? are you ahamed of your loathsome conduct? if not, you will fall among the fallen when you are punished. be careful the false pen of the scribes, they heal your wounds lightly saying, peace peace when there is no peace.
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    OP does not seem crazy to me, or maybe I'm the crazy one? Lol. OP reminds of these Christian youtubers with messages from God, and haven't anyone notice how crazy it is getting in the USa and how quick some things are happening? No one? Just me?
    No one notice how quickly gay marriage became legal in 50 states w/o any of the states have a say or how there are tensions between races and an increase of shooting? How all the things that everyone never expected would happen is happening at an alarming rate, and how the government and president is pushing and encouraging it?

    Someone with a deep faith in jesus is the crazy one but not the events happening so quickly? lol
 
 
 
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