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    (Original post by Mancini)
    Littlepopcorn don't be naive, many men who use prostitutes have in fact got partners some are even married. Your future partner could be one.
    :puke: desperation all round.

    No he won't be otherwise this will be him - watch from 1.56 of this video (not for under 18's)
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    (Original post by Mancini)
    Well simply talk to women with respect of course, have a laugh make them feel good and work from there. You ignore your problems and relationship development issues and you may never overcome them. So just get to know women as friends and work from there for now.
    Your post is all well-and-good, but you make it sound definitive. Simply making a woman laugh and feel good is not going to be enough to attract women. The OP's situation is almost identical to mine; intelligent, attractive, have gone beyond what is really necessary to try attract women. Sometimes it does not work. I don't blame the OP in wanting to find comfort even if he does have to pay for it, because it's extremely demoralizing to be in this situation.

    If the OP weren't making an effort or didn't know how to talk to women full-stop or he was a massive ****, then we'd have other suggestions for him. Going by his account alone, however, he seems to have exhausted all other options.
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    (Original post by freedom)
    just try and be more flirty, more touchy, more eye contact. Sexual compliments and tease her.

    She will get the picture, and she will either say yes or no.
    Okay like what kind of sexual compliments would you give and how would you flirt? I can make eye contact without a problem but i always end up talking about lame friendly type crap that is not sexual.
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    (Original post by SpiritSharD)
    Your post is all well-and-good, but you make it sound definitive. Simply making a woman laugh and feel good is not going to be enough to attract women. The OP's situation is almost identical to mine; intelligent, attractive, have gone beyond what is really necessary to try attract women. Sometimes it does not work. I don't blame the OP in wanting to find comfort even if he does have to pay for it, because it's extremely demoralizing to be in this situation.

    If the OP weren't making an effort or didn't know how to talk to women full-stop or he was a massive ****, then we'd have other suggestions for him. Going by his account alone, however, he seems to have exhausted all other options.
    It's not simple at all but what I stated in that quote you mentioned is a very simple proven way to connect to any women. It doesn't mean she's going to suddenly have sex with you just because ''oh his making me laugh and respects me" however, It does for sure help create some rapport with her , if it doesn't work with one move on find another. If a woman is enjoying her time with you then you are like half way there.

    At the end of the day not all women will want to have sex with you nor should they, nor should you want them all.
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    You should go out to get to meet people and get to know them not simply with the aim of finding sex. This is were and why you will feel like you failed because you are solely focused on sex instead of just respecting and getting to know this woman who is giving you the time to get to know her.

    As for OP's level of physical attractiveness I cannot comment nor can you. Getting a woman is not really about your looks anyway but your confidence and how you communicate with her.

    From OP's own words his got other issues in life affecting him , he probably doesn't really know how he may truly come off to women. Sometimes we have to self critique and really question why we are going wrong, where? and how you will improve.

    If you are only communicating with women with one goal in mind that being sex then you already are making a mistake in your interaction. I'm no ladies men , no great good looking guy, I just pay attention to people's behaviour.

    He hasn't exhausted all his options, you don't even know if he really trys or how he trys. It could simply be he comes of depressing who knows. Talking to a woman and courting her is the other half of the fun when it comes to women, of course if you are only looking at women for one thing though you won't see it.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Okay like what kind of sexual compliments would you give and how would you flirt? I can make eye contact without a problem but i always end up talking about lame friendly type crap that is not sexual.
    Comments do not need to be sexual you will come off as a sleazy guy. Unless you are actually maybe intimately dancing for example keep it friendly and above board.
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    (Original post by Mancini)
    It's not simple at all but what I stated in that quote you mentioned is a very simple proven way to connect to any women. It doesn't mean she's going to suddenly have sex with you just because ''oh his making me laugh and respects me" however, It does for sure help create some rapport with her , if it doesn't work with one move on find another. If a woman is enjoying her time with you then you are like half way there.

    At the end of the day not all women will want to have sex with you nor should they, more should you want them all.
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    You should go out to get to meet people and get to know them not simply with the aim of finding sex. This is were and why you will feel like you failed because you are solely focused on sex instead of just respecting and getting to know this woman who is giving you the time to get to know her.

    As for OP's level of physical attractiveness I cannot comment nor can you. Getting a woman is not really about your looks anyway but your confidence and how you communicate with her.

    From OP'school own words his got other issues in life affecting him , he probably doesn't really know how he maye truly comega off to women. Sometimes we have to self critique and really question why we are going wrong, where? and how you will improve.

    If you are only communicating with women with one goal in mind that being sex then you already are making a mistake in your interaction. I'm no ladies men , no great good looking guy, I just pay attention to people's behaviour.

    He hasn't exhausted all his options, you don't even know if he really trys or how he trys. It could simply be he comes of depressing who knows. Talking to a woman and courting her is the other half of the fun when it comes to women, of course if you are only looking at women for one thing though you won't see it.
    Of course I don't think that making her laugh etc is going to make her want to sleep with you, but you make it sound as if if you do those things they will suddenly want to be around you in any capacity. Maybe it's just me, but they don't.

    You're making the assumption that I talk to women purely because I'm interested in sex. This is not the case. I talk to women because they are people, because I'm interested in them as an individual and want to hear what they have to say. Same reason why I strike up conversation with elderly men who come into my workplace or chat with the school kid playing Pokemon Go whilst waiting in line. So, please, don't make that assumption about me.

    It depends on what avenues the OP has looked into as to whether or not attractiveness is a factor.

    OP mentions being bullied/abused, and I come from a similar background which is why I can understand his pain, but it's not as easy as going to a therapist and talking about these experiences and finding a solution. I don't walk around thinking about my past experiences and I doubt the OP does either, so understanding how this effects our communications with people is extremely difficult. I try talking to people on this very forum but Id say a good 80% just drop the conversation and never make the effort to speak to me again, yet how on earth is the trauma of my childhood going to effect those interactions? Real life I can get if the OP is coming across as nervous, is shaking etc, but he hasn't told us about that (OP, maybe you'd like to talk in my depth? ).

    It would probably help if OP actually tells us what he's done, then we can provide better advice.
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    You guys need to stop feeling sorry for yourselves, you need to understand women are not just here on this earth to please you. Get to know women , embrace women, listen to women and respect women and you will be on the right path.

    If a guy with my problems in life could get women so could you, things only end when you quit and you can blame no one but yourself and the perspective in which you choose to view issues in life.
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    (Original post by Mancini)
    You guys need to stop feeling sorry for yourselves, you need to understand women are not just here on this earth to please you. Get to know women , embrace women, listen to women and respect women and you will be on the right path.
    And you need to stop making poor judgement.
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    (Original post by SpiritSharD)
    Of course I don't think that making her laugh etc is going to make her want to sleep with you, but you make it sound as if if you do those things they will suddenly want to be around you in any capacity. Maybe it's just me, but they don't.

    You're making the assumption that I talk to women purely because I'm interested in sex. This is not the case. I talk to women because they are people, because I'm interested in them as an individual and want to hear what they have to say. Same reason why I strike up conversation with elderly men who come into my workplace or chat with the school kid playing Pokemon Go whilst waiting in line. So, please, don't make that assumption about me.

    It depends on what avenues the OP has looked into as to whether or not attractiveness is a factor.

    OP mentions being bullied/abused, and I come from a similar background which is why I can understand his pain, but it's not as easy as going to a therapist and talking about these experiences and finding a solution. I don't walk around thinking about my past experiences and I doubt the OP does either, so understanding how this effects our communications with people is extremely difficult. I try talking to people on this very forum but Id say a good 80% just drop the conversation and never make the effort to speak to me again, yet how on earth is the trauma of my childhood going to effect those interactions? Real life I can get if the OP is coming across as nervous, is shaking etc, but he hasn't told us about that (OP, maybe you'd like to talk in my depth? ).

    It would probably help if OP actually tells us what he's done, then we can provide better advice.
    Can't say anything more then how you say you are not is how you are coming off.

    To think the words you quoted off me are supposed to be some full proof way to get a woman into bed or to even suggest that there are such words shows you in this light.

    My words are simply about positivity to help OP take small steps to get better with women because from his own words he has communication issues.

    You must fix a problem in small steps don't think you are going to change overnight.
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    How did you spend thousands of pounds trying to improve your personality?
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    (Original post by Mancini)
    Can't say anything more then how you say you are not is how you are coming off.

    To think the words you quoted off me are supposed to be some full proof way to get a woman into bed or to even suggest that there are such words shows you in this light.
    Did you even read my post? I expressively said those suggestions alone WOULD NOT get a woman into bed, and anyone who would think so is foolish. Also this is an internet forum with text, how can I "come across" as anything?

    I can say this with 100% conviction, not that you will believe me; I have never approached a woman with the idea of having sex with her. I talk to women just as I would with anyone else.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Have done so and spent around £3000 on it but it hasn't resolved the problem. There's another course I can do and it costs £15000 which could help me. But who has £15000 to pay for this - I don't.
    You have spent £3000 on therapists? Holy ****! One thing about therapy is that it doesn't work unless you do. You cant expect to sit there talking about your problems and think that will fix them. Apply the 80-20 rule.

    That is the therapist does 20% of the work guiding you and you do the 80% of applying it and changing your behaviour. 3 grand is a staggering amount of money.
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    Colleges and universities offer free counselling services. I think this is important regarding self esteem and how you see yourself. Give that a chance and then see how you feel. Is feeling that you have to pay for sex really going to give you what you need? I'm not sure that it will.
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    Just keep it in hand that your future girlfriend/wife may not respect you as much...
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Hi

    So I've come to the decision at least for the time being that I'll visit an escort regularly because quite frankly women that I find attractive will simply not give me a chance. Tried everything, thrown a lot of money away trying to do it the normal way.

    Basically my childhood was dreadful and I was psychologically abused and bullied for years when I was growing up. This has meant that now as an adult I feel defective as a human being. I simply cannot change the past and I've thrown thousands of pounds at trying to recover from past events.

    I'd consider myself a physically attractive male. I have a good job and I'm intelligent but I'm simply not attractive to some women when it comes to my personality.

    What would you do in my situation?

    I think you should try it and tell everyone what the experience was like afterwards.
    Also some of these women can act as a therapist where you tell them about any problems you have and they can give you advice.
    Look up Seeking Arrangement on google and sign up with them as a sugar daddy or if you want wealthy women to pay you then you sign up as a sugar baby
    When i typed Seeking Arrangement on google it showed stories of women who use that agency. I think Seeking Arrangement is supposed to be like a proper dating agency /escort agency so some women escorts on it only stay with one man and they become a real girlfriend to that one man even though their getting paid or some choose to meet up with lots of different men but even if you met a woman the normal way you still have to spend lots of money paying for their drinks/meals, etc which becomes very expensive so at least using escorts the only difference is these women don't nag, put you down, critisize you or boss you about
    There were a few stories on google of women who do it. One woman was not very attractive so only charged the men £50 or £100 but she refuses to have sex with any of them and tells them this upfront. I thought she was selling herself short just because she was not very good looking but she should have took a chance and charged the same as the other good looking women who refuse to sleep with these men but still charge £300 or £500 or even £,1000 just to see if any men are stupid enough to pay her more because she's not going to clear her student debt only charging such small amounts when other women are charging way more.
    You can see different video's of it on You Tube too if you type the name of the agency but i did not know they showed video's of it on google too until i looked it up on there a couple of days ago.
    Now obviously you don't want to choose the one's that won't sleep with you or that would be a real waste of money

    Also i was searching for some more free films to watch online a few days ago and i came across a film called Sugarbabies on a free internet film website called 123movies.to
    So just type the name of the film Sugarbabies on that website or other free film websites because this will give you and everyone else reading your thread an insight into what escorts are about because not all of them sleep with their clients.
    The film was actually quite good but i thought the story was a bit silly where one woman got a self concious and gave back one man his £7,000. what a silly cow, who would give back thousands of pounds when it was given to them for free ?
    If your lucky you will meet an escort like that who will give you back your money,
    I highly doubt it though. And another woman in the film was a beautiful model who only dated one man for 5 months or 1 year then he disappeared without telling her because she kept over spending on his credit card and she was angry because she realised she should have dated more men or someone richer because he was paying for her apartnent so when he left her she could not afford to live there anymore.
    Don't give any woman your credit card even if you met them in a normal way or get married one day.

    Also type the words Real Dolls on You Tube to see a documentary about men in America who buy those dolls for £,1000 online because they can't get girlfriends
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Hi

    So I've come to the decision at least for the time being that I'll visit an escort regularly because quite frankly women that I find attractive will simply not give me a chance. Tried everything, thrown a lot of money away trying to do it the normal way.

    Basically my childhood was dreadful and I was psychologically abused and bullied for years when I was growing up. This has meant that now as an adult I feel defective as a human being. I simply cannot change the past and I've thrown thousands of pounds at trying to recover from past events.

    I'd consider myself a physically attractive male. I have a good job and I'm intelligent but I'm simply not attractive to some women when it comes to my personality.

    What would you do in my situation?
    Go for it! I personally wouldn't worry, with the number of fat birds growing many men don't really have a choice these days. In fact any legality issues should be dropped I think in light of the unreasonableness of find a reasonable size women in this country these days, lol.
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    (Original post by Mancini)
    Comments do not need to be sexual you will come off as a sleazy guy. Unless you are actually maybe intimately dancing for example keep it friendly and above board.
    Ok that's a little vague. What kind of friendly comments do you mean? Also what problems have you had and how have you managed to get a girl?
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    I think you should do it OP.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Ok that's a little vague. What kind of friendly comments do you mean? Also what problems have you had and how have you managed to get a girl?
    Any overtly sexual comments made to a girl you just met unless you think she likes you will come of sleazy even if she did like you, it could mean you blow your chance with her.

    Comments you make to a girl you just met should be general ''you are pretty'' maybe if you are dancing you tell her she has a nice body, these are friendly level comments and to be honest there is totally no reason to make highly sexual comments at all. Sure when the drinks get going innuendos can come in but keep it fun not sleazy. If she don't look like she's enjoying your company then quite clearly it's going no where.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Really sorry to hear about everything that's happened to you. I've been in a similar situation - never had any luck with relationships and I was so frustrated that I wanted to hurt myself. Until I went to see an escort for the first time a few years ago, and never looked back. I now go once every few months, and it's a perfectly healthy part of a man's life. I can tell you as someone who has been there, done that and come out stronger on the other side - you don't need girlfriends for sex if you can pay to get it from someone without all the stress, BS and verbal/emotional abuse that relationships come with. Girls like to use sex to manipulate men into doing what they want, and there always comes a time when you can't think about anything but sex. I would highly recommend you to go and see an escort - get what you need and you'll come back feeling refreshed and in a much more healthy mindset. Visiting escorts also helps improve your attitude to sex - by having sex with someone you don't know, you take all the emotion and worry out of sex so it just becomes a bodily function. Then by the time you come to having sex with someone you do know, you'll be more mentally prepared and (because you've had practise), able to satisfy a girlfriend better in bed. It sounds strange but I've actually had more girlfriends and slept with more girls since I started seeing escorts. I keep it a secret from those girls obviously, but escorts have improved my sexual confidence immensely. Hence I could not recommend them any more highly than I am.

    Obviously if you're going for the first time, keep your wits about you and take precautions. Choose an escort with good reviews and a decent price (not to mention someone you're actually attracted to, lol). Go during the day if you're worried about passing through dangerous areas, and don't take any more money with you than you need for transport and the amount you need to pay her. Trust me dude, only good things come out of getting sexual satisfaction. Don't fixate on the taboo or on other peoples' judgmental opinions. Do what you have to do and have no regrets. I hope everything goes well for you.
    It's a difficult situation I'm in. Yes it'll give me more experience that I'm lacking in but will it heal my childhood wounds? unlikely. I have exhausted all other options. Right now I can't see any other route. Will I get a girlfirend after seeing escorts for a period of time - who knows but I can only try.
 
 
 
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