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Petition for - EU Membership for Individuals -now approved by government Watch

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    (Original post by JamesN88)
    Where did the £4.50 per week figure come from anyway?
    EU membership fee (paid by UK previously) divided by population.... :confused:
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    (Original post by Inexorably)
    This would be the most complicated thing imaginable and unworkable. Can you imagine the outcry from citizens from countries all across the globe to be allowed EU membership?
    It's only complicated when you force a person to join against their own free will and when you have to drop group membership when only half want out.
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    (Original post by F.Nietzsche)
    EU membership fee (paid by UK previously) divided by population.... :confused:
    Yes.
    But read the petition.
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    [QUOTE=NickLCFC;66595044]This is just about the most unrealistic suggestion I've ever seen.
    Have you seen the 40 years of obscure laws that have to be reviewed? Try that for unrealistic. And £5 k a day per lawyer to undo each page. Oh, and then get 27 countries to unanimously approve it.
    Now that's unrealistic.
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    (Original post by abc:))
    I'm strongly pro-EU but surely that is impossible. Like someone else has said, you can't have different people living together under different legal systems. Anyway how would it benefit anyone? EU benefits apply to businesses, grants for community projects and so on - things which don't apply to individuals. Also Europe wouldn't get the benefit of our membership because we would be paying in less and Europeans still wouldn't have free access to the UK. It doesn't make any sense.
    And the system is fair now?
    You go to Poland or Greece or Portugal and get free housing and £25 k a year in benefits on arrival.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    You mislead or misunderstand what is meant by government approval. The government have nothing to do with the petition, it is merely in the prescribed format.

    They dont back your petition, hence your posts being misleading.
    The governmemt has spent weeks looking at the title and content of the petition.
    This was started way back and they disapproved or rejected a very similar model that was not within their ambit. It was the gov who rephrased it to be a workable title that is within their ambit to consider.
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    Is the gov site not credible enough? They have recrafted it and now approved it to be published as a petition. For YOU to sign.
    (Original post by Inexorably)
    This would be the most complicated thing imaginable and unworkable. Can you imagine the outcry from citizens from countries all across the globe to be allowed EU membership?
    (Original post by SaucissonSecCy)
    You can't have people living under a different legal system,. although I'll admit there are establishment figures who seem to get away with it. It's just more farce.
    (Original post by Duncan2012)
    There are actually several 'citizenship by investment' schemes available which would give someone a passport from an EU country. But you'll need hundreds of thousands if not millions of pounds. So as a mechanism for regular people - no chance.
    (Original post by 999tigger)
    Care to link to a credible source so we can see what you are going on about?

    If they have already approved the petition then why are you launching it today?
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    (Original post by Studentus-anonymous)
    EU membership is on a state-by-state basis, not for individuals.

    If you want to be a citizen of the EU then chase down membership with a remaining EU member state.
    Take away the 'place' and what is left? Individuals.
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    (Original post by Theplace)
    Is the gov site not credible enough? They have recrafted it and now approved it to be published as a petition. For YOU to sign.
    It's merely been approved as a valid petition by the parliamentary committee that manages the epetitions site. It's not approved by Government.

    https://www.parliament.uk/business/c...ons-committee/

    Saying it's "approved by Government" implies the petition has already succeeded in its aims. It hasn't.

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    (Original post by jneill)
    It's merely been approved as a valid petition by the parliamentary committee that manages the epetitions site. It's not approved by Government.

    https://www.parliament.uk/business/c...ons-committee/

    Saying it's "approved by Government" implies the petition has already succeeded in its aims. It hasn't.

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    In order to submit a,petition to the government, they first have to approve it as something they can actually entertain.
    It is not like a petition you put together st school and get people to sign. There are guidelines and approval is required to get a petition.
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    If you click the link,you will find it is 'credible' enough.
    (Original post by 999tigger)
    Care to link to a credible source so we can see what you are going on about?

    If they have already approved the petition then why are you launching it today?
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    Petitions have to be approved by government. What about that do you not understand. Once approved you have a time frame in which to gather votes so it can be heard in Parliament. There are many potential petitions that are not approved, so they are not petitions, because they are impossible or outside the ambit of government.
    (Original post by Theplace)
    If you click the link,you will find it is 'credible' enough.
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    (Original post by jneill)
    It's merely been approved as a valid petition by the parliamentary committee that manages the epetitions site. It's not approved by Government.

    https://www.parliament.uk/business/c...ons-committee/

    Saying it's "approved by Government" implies the petition has already succeeded in its aims. It hasn't.

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    When you ask for a petition, the government writes to you and tells you it has to approve it first. They look at the dis matures you gather to pass the first stage, and check them out for authenticity, and they examine the tile and details to ensure it is something within their ambit. A very slightly different proposal was refused,but they made dome suggestions to approve it, and it had to gather some original signatures and start the process from scratch. It has now been approved.
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    How can we all explain this to the OP any more.

    THE UK GOVT DO NOT BACK YOUR IDEA!!!

    They are merely allowing you to petition for Parliament to consider it for debate.
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    (Original post by Theplace)
    On its first day up in TSR 800 people looked at this thread and only 4 signed it.
    This indicates either that most that visited are not UK,citizens or don't care for the idea proposed. Is there another explanation? This is how ideas and desires become a reality, no matter how 'impossible' they seem.
    I can't speak for everyone who declined to sign but I for one don't care for the idea proposed.
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    (Original post by Theplace)
    When you ask for a petition, the government writes to you and tells you it has to approve it first. They look at the dis matures you gather to pass the first stage, and check them out for authenticity, and they examine the tile and details to ensure it is something within their ambit. A very slightly different proposal was refused,but they made dome suggestions to approve it, and it had to gather some original signatures and start the process from scratch. It has now been approved.
    It's not the government it's parliament. If fact it's a committee of parliament consisting of 11 backbenchers across the various political parties.

    The committee has accepted the petition to be added to their site along with over 20,000 other petitions. That's all that's happened. Very few of those petitions will even get a formal response from government (262 = approx 1%), and fewer still achieve a debate (30 = 0.15%).

    It is NOT "approved by government".
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    Just as the referendum has not been approved by government yet. Yes.
    (Original post by jneill)
    It's merely been approved as a valid petition by the parliamentary committee that manages the epetitions site. It's not approved by Government.

    https://www.parliament.uk/business/c...ons-committee/

    Saying it's "approved by Government" implies the petition has already succeeded in its aims. It hasn't.

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    (Original post by JamesN88)
    How can we all explain this to the OP any more.

    THE UK GOVT DO NOT BACK YOUR IDEA!!!

    They are merely allowing you to petition for Parliament to consider it for debate.
    Where does it say that the government backs the idea?
    It backs the petition being published to be a subject they are allowed to debate.
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    The gov has to approve a petition to be a petition,
    (Original post by jneill)
    It's not the government it's parliament. If fact it's a committee of parliament consisting of 11 backbenchers across the various political parties.

    The committee has accepted the petition to be added to their site along with over 20,000 other petitions. That's all that's happened. Very few of those petitions will even get a formal response from government (262 = approx 1%), and fewer still achieve a debate (30 = 0.15%).

    It is NOT "approved by government".
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    (Original post by jneill)
    It's not the government it's parliament. If fact it's a committee of parliament consisting of 11 backbenchers across the various political parties.

    The committee has accepted the petition to be added to their site along with over 20,000 other petitions. That's all that's happened. Very few of those petitions will even get a formal response from government (262 = approx 1%), and fewer still achieve a debate (30 = 0.15%).

    It is NOT "approved by government".
    It WILL be debated in Parliament if it is signed and not boycotted by people who are peeved that someone had the gumption to try to do something.
 
 
 
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